Rabbi Against Israel (Fox news interview)

Ahnimus wrote:

I don't normally make use of the "Report Bad Post" button, because I assume that we can all communicate like adults when we calm down and learn to respect each other. Though, I'm starting to question that hypothesis.

your content is deplorable. you use profanity like a sailor and use this board to vent your clear anti semitism as demonstrated by Dayan. you clearly dont care who you offend. so report away. the worst that could happen is that I would not have to respond to your stupid shit anymore

the face wrote:

Himmler himself could not have written some of this shit better than Anus mouth.

You have got to stop saying things like that, they're directed to someone I don't even know and yet I find them extremely offensive.
I think the fun you have throwing words like nazi and calling people names like Himmler is because you have a vague idea what you're talking about.
My country was deeply touched (and was involved unfortunately) by the nazi regime. So much that my grand mother could tell me, on first hand, stories about these frightfull times. And no one should toss these words freely because no one here has lived in these times. So please stop using these words, thank you.

Another thing I frequently see is you telling others to get a history teacher and such. That's plain stupidity. Different schools offer different history lessons, so you're bound to say different countries offer different history lessons. I heard some of your wonderful insight on post-war history and I'm sorry to say this but : get a history teacher, I was taught otherwise.

And finally, I don't agree, at all, with some of Isreal's actions in the middle east, neither does my county, my continent, or the UN. We may all be a bunch of anti-semites but you have to admit, living the life of a palestinian today has got to be something really hard, and that sucks.

Ahnimus wrote:

So, the Rothschilds aren't Jewish?

They are Jewish, but I don't see the relevance of that. I know you believe that they control European finance, but my point is that is a false belief (which is anti-semitic I'm sorry to say).

Kann wrote:

You have got to stop saying things like that, they're directed to someone I don't even know and yet I find them extremely offensive.
I think the fun you have throwing words like nazi and calling people names like Himmler is because you have a vague idea what you're talking about.
My country was deeply touched (and was involved unfortunately) by the nazi regime. So much that my grand mother could tell me, on first hand, stories about these frightfull times. And no one should toss these words freely because no one here has lived in these times. So please stop using these words, thank you.

Another thing I frequently see is you telling others to get a history teacher and such. That's plain stupidity. Different schools offer different history lessons, so you're bound to say different countries offer different history lessons. I heard some of your wonderful insight on post-war history and I'm sorry to say this but : get a history teacher, I was taught otherwise.

And finally, I don't agree, at all, with some of Isreal's actions in the middle east, neither does my county, my continent, or the UN. We may all be a bunch of anti-semites but you have to admit, living the life of a palestinian today has got to be something really hard, and that sucks.

Obviously your European. Not a surprise you rush to the defense of someone who in fact does espouse the same kind of generalizations about jews and finance that in fact WAS part of the nazi doctrine. I am not throwing there terms around loosely at all. And I am not surprised you were taught history differently they we were taught it. You're clearly European. And as such, your history is going to be watered down. Especially, as you admit, your country participated in the crimes. So you are clearly not unbiased.

dayan wrote:

They are Jewish, but I don't see the relevance of that. I know you believe that they control European finance, but my point is that is a false belief (which is anti-semitic I'm sorry to say).

Ok, well I'm just telling the truth.

If you read through the history of say The Federal Reserve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_reserve

You will see that it controls all of America's money and has been presided over by Jewish people, since, forever. Doesn't seem right if Jews are a minority. Furthermore the American National Debt is owed to private foreign investors, that are Jews.

President Andrew Jackson was aware of this and tried to fight off the International Banks, but was beat by their control of money.

You only have to look up Rothschild history to see the far reaching control they have.

The company does most of its business as an M&A advisor. According to the Dealogic league tables it has a strong position in Paris and London but remains a relatively weak player in New York City. The group's ranking is number 4 among European advisers (by announced mergers and acquisitions year-to-date October 2004) with 160 deals with a value of $137.08 billion, and globally as number 9 with 197 deals with a value of $150.50 billion. Goldman Sachs leads in both Europe and globally with 258 deals worth $448.98 billion.

The annual revenue of the Rothschild group (http://www.rothschild.com) is €828 million with a shareholder equity of €1 billion (2003). To compete more effectively with the New York giants the Rothschild groups main branches in Paris, London, and New York merged into one holding company, Rothschilds Continuation Holdings AG, under David de Rothschild's leadership. David de Rothschild is opposed to an IPO, much like competitor Lazard's former chairman Michel David-Weill, although Lazard finally went public in 2005 after Wall Street banker Bruce Wasserstein entered the company. 20% of Rothschild Continuation Holdings AG was sold in 2005 to Jardine Strategic which is a subsidiary of Jardine, Matheson & Co. of Hong Kong.

Simon de Rothschild, the son of Robert de Rothschild, heads the Canadian Northern Railway, and its subsidiaries, as well as a number of mining and industrial operations.

Another descendant of James, Edmond de Rothschild (1926-1997) founded the LCF Rothschild Group, based in Geneva, which today extends to 15 countries across the world. The group's primary businesses include Banque Privée Edmond de Rothschild S.A., La Compagnie Benjamin de Rothschild S.A., and COGIFRANCE. Although this Group is primarily a financial entity, specialising in asset management and private banking, its activities also cover winemaking (with estates in Bordeaux, South Africa and Argentina), mixed farming, luxury hotels and yacht racing. The LCF Rothschild Group is currently presided over by Benjamin de Rothschild, Baron Edmond's son.

Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild is the Chairman of RIT Capital Partners, the UK's largest investment trust.

The Rothschilds were supporters of the State of Israel, and Baron Edmond James de Rothschild was a patron of the first settlement in Palestine at Rishon-LeZion. In 1917 Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild was the addressee of the Balfour Declaration, which committed the British government to the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.

Now, I'm not saying all Jews, but the Jewish strive for wealth and education kind of puts them in the spotlight.

Ahnimus wrote:

Ok, well I'm just telling the truth.

If you read through the history of say The Federal Reserve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_reserve

You will see that it controls all of America's money and has been presided over by Jewish people, since, forever. Doesn't seem right if Jews are a minority. Furthermore the American National Debt is owed to private foreign investors, that are Jews.

President Andrew Jackson was aware of this and tried to fight off the International Banks, but was beat by their control of money.

You only have to look up Rothschild history to see the far reaching control they have.

The company does most of its business as an M&A advisor. According to the Dealogic league tables it has a strong position in Paris and London but remains a relatively weak player in New York City. The group's ranking is number 4 among European advisers (by announced mergers and acquisitions year-to-date October 2004) with 160 deals with a value of $137.08 billion, and globally as number 9 with 197 deals with a value of $150.50 billion. Goldman Sachs leads in both Europe and globally with 258 deals worth $448.98 billion.

The annual revenue of the Rothschild group (http://www.rothschild.com) is €828 million with a shareholder equity of €1 billion (2003). To compete more effectively with the New York giants the Rothschild groups main branches in Paris, London, and New York merged into one holding company, Rothschilds Continuation Holdings AG, under David de Rothschild's leadership. David de Rothschild is opposed to an IPO, much like competitor Lazard's former chairman Michel David-Weill, although Lazard finally went public in 2005 after Wall Street banker Bruce Wasserstein entered the company. 20% of Rothschild Continuation Holdings AG was sold in 2005 to Jardine Strategic which is a subsidiary of Jardine, Matheson & Co. of Hong Kong.

Simon de Rothschild, the son of Robert de Rothschild, heads the Canadian Northern Railway, and its subsidiaries, as well as a number of mining and industrial operations.

Another descendant of James, Edmond de Rothschild (1926-1997) founded the LCF Rothschild Group, based in Geneva, which today extends to 15 countries across the world. The group's primary businesses include Banque Privée Edmond de Rothschild S.A., La Compagnie Benjamin de Rothschild S.A., and COGIFRANCE. Although this Group is primarily a financial entity, specialising in asset management and private banking, its activities also cover winemaking (with estates in Bordeaux, South Africa and Argentina), mixed farming, luxury hotels and yacht racing. The LCF Rothschild Group is currently presided over by Benjamin de Rothschild, Baron Edmond's son.

Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild is the Chairman of RIT Capital Partners, the UK's largest investment trust.

The Rothschilds were supporters of the State of Israel, and Baron Edmond James de Rothschild was a patron of the first settlement in Palestine at Rishon-LeZion. In 1917 Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild was the addressee of the Balfour Declaration, which committed the British government to the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.

Now, I'm not saying all Jews, but the Jewish strive for wealth and education kind of puts them in the spotlight.

OMG. Now Ive heard it all. Jews strive for wealth and education and they are in the spotlight? So one should strive for stupidity and poverty? Is that your aim? Seriously, get some help.

dayan wrote:

why do you stress the Jewishness of these people? If the head of the fed is Jewish what does it matter. his Jewishness doesn't come into his stewardship of the money supply. if a catholic were the head of the fed you wouldn't talk about Catholics controlling finance. If it was a protestant no one would say the protestants control finance. the point is that by fixating on the Jewishness of certain individuals when their Jewishness has nothing to do with how they do their jobs, you create the false impression that "the Jews" are manipulating the world for Jewish interests.

No, I'm not saying that. I'm simply saying that some Jews control the worlds finance. Even Lazard Ltd. Mentioned in that article is and was Jewish controlled.

I'm telling you this is why people like Hitler were anti-semitic.

As was said, the Jewish people have always been tightly knit, is it then such a stretch to think they may be acting in some way on behalf of Israel?

I mean, Israel took the barren Palestinian land and turned it into paradise. How? Where did all that money come from?

Yea, anyway, I don't care. I'm just stating the facts Jack.

dayan wrote:

My point is that people need to be careful and responsible in what they say. you personally may have no negative feelings towards Jews, but when you irresponsibly say something like "the Jews control finance" you create the conditions in which someone else can take what you said and it can feed their real hatred for Jews. Your comment is therefore anti-semitic not because of what it necessarily reflects about you and your opinions, but because of the damage it can cause. It is a broad generalization that has a distinctly negative connotation.

I'm just stating the facts. I probably have Jewish blood in me. I have no idea. I personally don't care about where I come from or what my ancestors did, or even what my parents and siblings do.

But, some people, want to maintain that they are a "group" and then they will be treated as a "group" for all intents and purposes. That is the down-side of elitism.

the face wrote:

And as such, your history is going to be watered down.

On the contrary. I have been educated both in the US and in various european countries. European teaching of history is a lot more indepth than in the US. Indepth but also broad...

Kann wrote:

You have got to be kidding me, I may be European but I did go to school.
As for the other part I left out, I'm not defending anyone, I just don't like the term nazi and names like Himmel and Heinrich tossed around loosely (and please don't tell me otherwise, this is a forum not a propaganda book from 1939!).

First of all its Himler. Not Himmel. What do you expect someone to say when there are people on this board espousing the Jews control the money crap. If that is not Nazi logic I don't know what is. I am sorry that word makes you uncomfortable. It should. It should make you uncomfortable that there are still people in this world who truly believe that Hitler did what he did because of Jewish control of finances. Scares the shit out of me man. It just seems to me we have not progressed much since 1939 otherwise the rest of you would recognize the clear anti semitism in those kinds of statements. But you don't. You defend that kind of talk which is even more frightening. Doesn't surprise me at all you are European.