No Grateful Dead comparisons!

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  • Funny how this....


    Sounds an awful lot like this....


    Like I said before... same exact thing but you boys had DischordVision up on the cross. No matter what band you like.. somebody hates them. Its just the way it goes... and everyone has really dumb reasons for hating the bands they hate.. but it doesn't matter. Its just the way it is... and then people break out with "oh well you never saw them live man!" Yeah when was the last time anyone went to go see a band live that they thinks sucks ass? I don't usually do that. Oh let me go check out Divinyls tonight. I hear you haven't truely heard "I touch myself" until you've heard it live!

    All your bands suck! :)
    quite frankly i never put him "up on a cross"... all i said was that i could see where the comparisons might come from... just like i can see where the D-bag frat boy DMB fan image comes from... never even mentioned "you have to see them live"... cause i never had that opportunity... im too young... its nothing personal or an attack on anyone... my opinions are based on my life experiences... ive listened to GD for years... and im in college so i see too many DMB fans... and the difference between the 2 quotes you just used was on was on the defense and he was on the attack... people shouldnt have to defend what they feel any more then people should feel entitled to attack those feelings (unless completely deserved [good charlotte etc])
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

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  • sgossard3 wrote:
    quite frankly i never put him "up on a cross"... all i said was that i could see where the comparisons might come from... just like i can see where the D-bag frat boy DMB fan image comes from... never even mentioned "you have to see them live"... cause i never had that opportunity... im too young... its nothing personal or an attack on anyone... my opinions are based on my life experiences... ive listened to GD for years... and im in college so i see too many DMB fans... and the difference between the 2 quotes you just used was on was on the defense and he was on the attack... people shouldnt have to defend what they feel any more then people should feel entitled to attack those feelings (unless completely deserved [good charlotte etc])

    Just to clarify... the cross comment was to everyone as can be implied by "you boys" as in fifty peeps against one. Same goes with the live coment. I was addressing everyone who posted in this thread. The only part that was specificly addressed to you was the quote i took. Which was more of an example really. Maybe if you read everyone elses comments, my earlier coments, and then read my last post again it will make more sense.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,130
    whose got my extra?

    the business model is similar-PJ makes better records more often and the dead used to tour more often-mail order tickets (gee where did that idea come from?)-bootlegs-crazy fans that follow them around

    lots of similarities
    but the media has latched on to that comparison simply because, like the dead, PJ does not sell millions of records, has no videos or MTV presence, but still sells out most of their shows.

    music is totally different

    And Im really sorry for any of you that never had the chance to see the grateful dead play live

    by the way, Bobbys band ratdog is friggin awesome, and in some ways better than the last few years the dead were touring
  • Just to clarify... the cross comment was to everyone as can be implied by "you boys" as in fifty peeps against one. Same goes with the live coment. I was addressing everyone who posted in this thread. The only part that was specificly addressed to you was the quote i took. Which was more of an example really. Maybe if you read everyone elses comments, my earlier coments, and then read my last post again it will make more sense.
    no i understand what youre saying... id just rather not be used an example... and i dont really feel bad for anyone "ganging up" on the OP because he put his opinion out there to be negated and did so in a less than objective way... and ive read the other posts... just seems to be people defending a band they love when really that shouldnt even be the issue... the comparisons are endless and undeniable and all it takes is a lil research or knowledge of GD to know this... i except peoples opinions when i feel theyre learned on the subject theyre debated... ive been to 3 DMB (friend in the warehouse) therefore i can say what i want about their fans based on those experiences (and others)
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

    http://seanbriceart.com/
  • Dylan Stone
    Dylan Stone Posts: 1,145
    "I won't go see DMB because I hate their fans". etc.

    Heh....have you been to many DMB shows? I have...about 15...and as a general rule....their fans? Ughhhhh....

    I'd rather have a "dirty hippie ;) " offer to give me a rock for my miracle ticket any day. (True story...of course)

    .
  • goldstar
    goldstar Posts: 256
    How I would loved to have seen Jerry and Ed singing a dead tune together.

    I keep thinking how cool it would be if PJ started playing "I Know You Rider" live.
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  • Dylan Stone
    Dylan Stone Posts: 1,145
    goldstar wrote:
    I keep thinking how cool it would be if PJ started playing "I Know You Rider" live.

    Planning a trip right now and thinking...."Going where the climate suits my clothes." :)
  • deadnote
    deadnote Posts: 1,678
    different fan base
    pearl jam fans are frenzied folk
    while gd are more chillin

    thats just an attempt to be noticed by her

    paid for by k
    set your laughter free

    dreamer in my dream

    we got the guns

    i love you,but im..............callin out.........callin out
  • goldstar
    goldstar Posts: 256
    Get_Right wrote:
    by the way, Bobbys band ratdog is friggin awesome, and in some ways better than the last few years the dead were touring

    I prefer Phil's friends.
    :D
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  • goldstar
    goldstar Posts: 256
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    Planning a trip right now and thinking...."Going where the climate suits my clothes." :)

    :)

    (but seriously, they could take "rider" and play it at a RITFW tempo. how awesome would that be?)
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  • URthekey
    URthekey Posts: 1,912
    Yo, I f'in love Pearl Jam but I doubt they could sell out MSG 9 nights in a row and still have 3000 fans in the parking lot who couldn't get in.

    There never was, nor will there ever be, another Grateful Dead.

    The GD toured 3x per year, Summer, Spring, and Fall, for over 15 years, their lives were lived on the road and thats what made it possible for their fans to take their own lives on the road too.

    When Jerry died, alot of people were left homeless.
  • deadnote
    deadnote Posts: 1,678
    pearl jam in 95-96 couldve have taken the heavyweight crown in fan base just by listening to delirious, or u2 i forget which ones first
    set your laughter free

    dreamer in my dream

    we got the guns

    i love you,but im..............callin out.........callin out
  • goldstar wrote:
    I prefer Phil's friends.
    :D
    *phriends :D
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

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  • goldstar
    goldstar Posts: 256
    sgossard3 wrote:
    *phriends :D

    BRILLIANT!
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,130
    goldstar wrote:
    I prefer Phil's friends.
    :D

    hahaha

    I cant stand the Phil shows, only shows ive ever walked out of.

    I guess there is some division there
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,130
    goldstar wrote:
    I keep thinking how cool it would be if PJ started playing "I Know You Rider" live.

    Cant have a rider without a china cat=it would be interesting to hear McCready play that riff

    I was thinking an EV acoustic version of ripple

    But I could see the PJ ripping cold rain and snow
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    I may change my screen name to Grateful Jammer
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,666
    Get_Right wrote:
    Cant have a rider without a china cat=it would be interesting to hear McCready play that riff

    I was thinking an EV acoustic version of ripple

    But I could see the PJ ripping cold rain and snow

    oh man i would probably drop dead at my seat ....:D
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • EdVedHed
    EdVedHed Posts: 100
    Get_Right wrote:

    I was thinking an EV acoustic version of ripple

    Yes ! on the uke too .....
    And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.......Nietzsche
  • edpearson
    edpearson Posts: 331
    Get_Right wrote:
    hahaha
    I cant stand the Phil shows, only shows ive ever walked out of.
    I guess there is some division there

    The last few times I saw Phil & Friends, I was kinda bored. This span of shows was from 2002-2005. The first time I saw him, he blew me away. This was a New Year's show in Oakland and he had Warren Haynes playing guitar during that particular line-up. Seems his line-up keeps changing which is probably why I haven't been into his shows. Warren kicked ass w/ that band! I haven't seen Ratdog in years, but I've heard his band is kicing arse. I did see the Other Ones at one of those Further Festivals back in '97 (???) and it was cool. Having seen the Dead about 70 times since '86, I see a lot of similarities, but the obvious ones worth pointing out (and the overall consensus from this thread) are the dedicated fanbase, the diversity of shows (unlike most performers where every show is pretty much the same), and the availability of live shows in bootleg formats. I know there's others, but these are the obvious major similarities. I'm fortunate to have seen the Dead play together -- some of the best times in my life. But also I'm fortunate to be on board with PJ -- some of the best times in my life. I've got a ways to go to catch up with the number of PJ shows compared to the number of Dead shows, but I can always blame that on the fact that PJ doesn't tour three-fourths of the year like the Dead always did (I think they only took time off around '75 when they were working on Blues for Allah ???). I'm surprised that this thread went so long. While the OP was in for an obvious ass-kicking, I had no idea it would be this many postings replying back. And even better, I was more surprised to find that there's so many Dead fans in here. Rock on! Eddie playing "Ripple" would be nice, but how 'bout the band playing "US Blues"!!!???
    Rock on!
    ~Edward

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