Obama tells NAACP blacks must take responsibility

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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    my2hands wrote:
    homerun
    homerun...bingo....

    sounds like an echo chamber in here.... :rolleyes:

    :D
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    angelica wrote:
    homerun...bingo....

    sounds like an echo chamber in here.... :rolleyes:

    :D


    Grand Slam

    :p

    Oh snap!

    :D

    Angelica, you shouldn't encourage me...well...yeah, you should. I needed the giggles. :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Grand Slam

    :p

    Oh snap!

    :D

    Angelica, you shouldn't encourage me...well...yeah, you should. I needed the giggles. :)
    Should I join in, or is this echo chamber already full? :p
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Should I join in, or is this echo chamber already full? :p

    Enter at your own risk. :D


    Obama told NAACP that blacks must take responsibility and so should you. ;)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    angelica wrote:
    homerun...bingo....

    sounds like an echo chamber in here.... :rolleyes:

    :D

    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Grand Slam

    :p

    Oh snap!

    :D

    Angelica, you shouldn't encourage me...well...yeah, you should. I needed the giggles.

    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Should I join in, or is this echo chamber already full? :p


    Says the Nader echo chamber, but I guess that is your talking point...


    A bunch of Nader supporters patting each other on the back = free thinkers

    A bunch of Obama supporters patting each other on the back = echo chamber
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Says the Nader echo chamber, but I guess that is your talking point...


    A bunch of Nader supporters patting each other on the back = free thinkers

    A bunch of Obama supporters patting each other on the back = echo chamber
    We're just making fun of the fact that we've been called an echo chamber countless times. Except usually, we said something more than "bingo", or "homerun".
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Enter at your own risk. :D


    Obama told NAACP that blacks must take responsibility and so should you. ;)
    You know me - responsibility washes over me like water over a shaven seal. :D
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Says the Nader echo chamber, but I guess that is your talking point...


    A bunch of Nader supporters patting each other on the back = free thinkers

    A bunch of Obama supporters patting each other on the back = echo chamber


    Nah, but some of us have never had a problem with it and then go around echoing ourselves the next day.

    just sayin'
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Says the Nader echo chamber, but I guess that is your talking point...

    See Rhino's post ..ost...stt... :D

    And since when am I a Nader supporter? I don't know anything about the dude. My concern is as a human being, and as an ethicist.

    Somehow people like to slant that as though I have a bias that I don't in this situation. Unless you call a bias towards expecting people to live up to their stated standards and ethics and to the boundaries of reason a bias.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    We're just making fun of the fact that we've been called an echo chamber countless times. Except usually, we said something more than "bingo", or "homerun".
    Not only have we been called an echo chamber numerous times...but it's been by my2hands!! :D
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    angelica wrote:
    Not only have we been called an echo chamber numerous times...but it's been by my2hands!! :D
    Not only have we been called an echo chamber numerous times...but it's been by my2hands!! :D

    :p This thread is so locked.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    angelica wrote:
    Not only have we been called an echo chamber numerous times...but it's been by my2hands!! :D


    I know! I thought that would have been obvious.

    I say echoes for all!

    But I don't understand: 'echoes are good for me but not for Nader Raiders and their buddy angelica.' :D
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Not only have we been called an echo chamber numerous times...but it's been by my2hands!! :D

    :p This thread is so locked.
    the whole forum will be locked soon if people don't take note of kats post the other day.

    didn't she already warn about chit chatting in threads.
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    the whole forum will be locked soon if people don't take note of kats post the other day.

    didn't she already warn about chit chatting in threads.
    She warned people to talk politely too, but I saw some pretty juvenile attacks coming from a certain poster, which were quickly supported, I might add. I think light-hearted banter is a little less worrisome. Not talking about you, though. :)
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Not only have we been called an echo chamber numerous times...but it's been by my2hands!! :D

    :p This thread is so locked.
    :D
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    ... 'echoes are good for me but not for Nader Raiders and their buddy angelica.' :D
    :D

    ...and their buddy angelica! :D.......
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  • lgt
    lgt Posts: 720
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    But just saying that he will talk to them isn't too much when he has been so prone to saying one thing and doing another.

    The big issue for me is that he keeps trying to pin Iran as some grave threat to our nation's security and that is pure bologna.

    bologna?? :D never heard of this expression! only the city.

    He cannot ignore Iran which has been on the political agenda for the past 30 years, especially recently with the current administration portraying it as a grave threat - not Obama (the axis of evil speech by Bush). He's just outlining a different way to deal with the situation and to advocate direct diplomacy is a HUGE positive difference. Compare it with McCain and notice the glaring discrepancy of approach!

    And he has been consistent on the diplomatic approach towards Iran, so no flip-flopping here or pandering to the masses, and that should be reassuring :)
  • John Briggs 2008
    John Briggs 2008 Posts: 1,024
    NO matter what this man says or does, some how, people, the media and races will make it about Black and White at the end of the day. Damn shame.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    His vote against capping the credit card rates at 30% seems pretty indicative to me....a vote in which he went against his fellow democrats to side with the republicans, actually.
    Once again, he voted against the entire bill, so he actually sided with neither.
  • Vince
    Vince Posts: 174
    _outlaw wrote:
    haha. I haven't had time to read the entire thing, but I briefly skimmed it and:
    I think that's a bit extreme to think that ALL he's saying is that we can ONLY move forward as a nation when blacks take responsibility.
    For one, I don't think he's talking only about moving forward as a nation, but more particularly towards blacks moving forward, socially. This is clearly indirectly a response to Nader calling him out for him avoiding this issue, and I'm happy to see Obama decide to tackle it, but I REALLY hope this doesn't mean that he's going to blame black people for being irresponsible and not necessarily give them the help they need... And this isn't just for black people, but for poverty all over America... If 60-75% of Obama's plan revolves around people "taking responsibility" THEN he plans on giving them the help they need, then that just sounds like he's saying anything so he can delay the issue even more...

    Nader called no one out. Obama has been talking about these issues since day one. Nader has selective hearing and wanted air time. Obama has discussed poverty affecting all Americans not just black. He is running for President of the United States not only for Black America.

    As Obama talks about responsibility McCain is trying to pander by touting more government handouts. Obama has been consistant on 98% of his stances but it's people like Nader and the conservative right that have made a desperate effort to smear and distort his record.
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    Vince wrote:
    Nader called no one out. Obama has been talking about these issues since day one. Nader has selective hearing and wanted air time. Obama has discussed poverty affecting all Americans not just black. He is running for President of the United States not only for Black America.

    As Obama talks about responsibility McCain is trying to pander by touting more government handouts. Obama has been consistant on 98% of his stances but it's people like Nader and the conservative right that have made a desperate effort to smear and distort his record.
    Nader has selective hearing?

    Obama consistent?

    sure.

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