Our Food is Killing Us!
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Good nutrition starts at home. i blame the parents that are to busy to practice good nutritional habits with their kidsAbookamongstthemany wrote:Our lunches were like 20 mins. How do they have the time to chug this stuff so fast, as well? They must spend their whole lunch feeding dollars into the machine.0 -
Abookamongstthemany wrote:Maybe we should, it wouldn't hurt. But I'm speaking of the more dangerous types of over processed junk food with tons of chemicals and added ingredients.
What you mean to say is that it wouldn't hurt you. But it hurts whoever has to pay for the damn labelling. Did you know that Kraft and a lot of companies are now lobbying Congress to increase the labelling requirements in this country so that they'll match the standards elsewhere therefore severely lowering their labelling costs?
Furthermore, who do you think pays the increased costs associated with the labels, the lawsuits, and everything else that stems from this "not my responsibility" mindset?
Do you even consider this stuff when you recommend yet another regulation or law?Giving the educational system we currently have, it wouldn't be a bad idea to spell some things out more clearly.
"Dont be eatin on dat b/c it fck u up"...I can see it now
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Sorry to get geeky, but a lot of scientists believe that we are naturally vulnerable to obesity. We are attracted to fatty foods because on an evolutionary basis it was beneficial for us to seek out high concentrations of calories which were hard to come by. However, that was at a point where we were using much more energy and exercising (hunting/gathering/migrating...) so now we are predisposed to fast food etc.
I support additional taxes on fast food and junk food. obesity related problems etc drains the health care system and so it should be discouraged and subsidized by people who are high users/0 -
The problem here IS NOT labeling. Labeling could have been around 50 years ago, but it didn't matter then, because food portions were smaller and there was less indulgence/gluttony.
And even if there was labeling on a bag of chips, saying that you're going to die if you overconsume, are you really going to read it? People need to stop pointing the finger and make healthy decisions for themselves.
And whatever happened to Health classes in schools? Are they not teaching that anymore??0 -
I didn't read through this whole thread, so my apologize for restating something that may already have been said.
As it turns out, exercise has very little to do with weight loss. Most exercises such as lifting weights target muscle developement. The amount of energy burned is actually very little. A few months ago I was curious so I pulled up the old Tim Horton's nutrition guide on their website and pulled out my bro's physics book.
According to Tim Horton's there is something like 400 calories in one of their sandwiches. According to the physics book, a fit person lifting 50kg burns about 3 calories per repetition. (I could be wrong on the exact numbers).
That means it would take over 130 reps with that weight to burn off that sandwich. Most people eat more than a sandwich in a day, and well, Tim Horton's is a hell of a lot healthier than McDonald's.
This of course doesn't take into account any nutritional facts. This is simply energy consumed and energy burned. You can see, it wouldn't be realitistic for a person to lift a 50kg weight 500 times a day just to burn off their intake.
Weight Loss is 90% what we eat. Exercise is a factor, however the most effective form of exercise for burning energy and fat is walking/running. I figured out through math that when I walk to work every day I burn off enough calories to account for one coffee from Tim Horton's. I walk two ways, to work and from work and drink 3 coffees, and I eat one or two meals a day. So that explains why I've increased in weight since I stopped working in the warehouse, where I burned a lot of calories all day.
So, eat an apple and grab a baseball bat
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
farfromglorified wrote:What you mean to say is that it wouldn't hurt you. But it hurts whoever has to pay for the damn labelling. Did you know that Kraft and a lot of companies are now lobbying Congress to increase the labelling requirements in this country so that they'll match the standards elsewhere therefore severely lowering their labelling costs?
Furthermore, who do you think pays the increased costs associated with the labels, the lawsuits, and everything else that stems from this "not my responsibility" mindset?
Do you even consider this stuff when you recommend yet another regulation or law?
"Dont be eatin on dat b/c it fck u up"...I can see it now
So, in other words, we shouldn't choose to make these companies label goods because their profits are more important than our health as consumers of their products?
I am fully aware that costs would be a factor and was suprised it took you this long.
I know that these companies have millions for advertising and new packaging. How about putting it to good use, there is plenty of room on most packaging for this kind of thing. If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde0 -
They were a joke way back when, and I doubt that they have gotten any better in the schools of today. The Health class was generally something given to the football coach to teach to warrant his large salary as compared to real teachers.Jeanwah wrote:And whatever happened to Health classes in schools? Are they not teaching that anymore??All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.0 -
Also check out these entertaining videos on the subject

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2488406951658806670&q=bullshit+exercise
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7592468947754427068&q=bullshit+exercise
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-38689228117046242&q=bullshit+exerciseI necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
No, he was saying that they are going to pass the cost onto us, the consumers. Their pocket book is never in danger as long as they can take from ours.Abookamongstthemany wrote:So, in other words, we shouldn't choose to make these companies label goods because their profits are more important than our health as consumers of their products?
I am fully aware that costs would be a factor and was suprised it took you this long.
I know that these companies have millions for advertising and new packaging. How about putting it to good use, there is plenty of room on most packaging for this kind of thing.All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.0 -
tybird wrote:No, he was saying that they are going to pass the cost onto us, the consumers. Their pocket book is never in danger as long as they can take from ours.
Yes, I know, but how is using a portion of the package for labeling going to be that much more costly?If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde0 -
Ahnimus wrote:As it turns out, exercise has very little to do with weight loss. Most exercises such as lifting weights target muscle developement. The amount of energy burned is actually very little. A few months ago I was curious so I pulled up the old Tim Horton's nutrition guide on their website and pulled out my bro's physics book...
Weight Loss is 90% what we eat. Exercise is a factor, however the most effective form of exercise for burning energy and fat is walking/running.
Exercise, in combination with eating right, has everything to do with weight loss. You said it yourself! Don't put down weight training, as it increases metabolism, this is a fact. So it does help. But I do agree with you that what we eat has more to do with it. I run 3 times a week, and if I'm trying to lose a couple pounds, running alone does not do it. But if I decrease my portion sizes and food choices, I end up losing the pounds.0 -
anyone see jamie oliver's thingie ... he pretty much embarassed the british gov't by providing healthy good food at the same price as they were paying for shit ...
anyways - this is related to a pet peeve of mine as it relates to health care ... we spend so much money trying to cure people that we don't spend any money on actually preventing people from getting sick ...0 -
Jeanwah wrote:Exercise, in combination with eating right, has everything to do with weight loss. You said it yourself! Don't put down weight training, as it increases metabolism, this is a fact. So it does help. But I do agree with you that what we eat has more to do with it. I run 3 times a week, and if I'm trying to lose a couple pounds, running alone does not do it. But if I decrease my portion sizes and food choices, I end up losing the pounds.
Yea, sorry, I was saying running/walking is a great way to burn calories and keep the system running smooth. I was putting down weight training because it targets muscle developement. Too many people go to the gym and pump iron expecting to drop some pounds and are dissapointed by the results.I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
I second this. On a different but similar tangent, I really think that we should also have labels ala Europe about whether our food products are genetically modified.polaris wrote:anyways - this is related to a pet peeve of mine as it relates to health care ... we spend so much money trying to cure people that we don't spend any money on actually preventing people from getting sick ...0 -
sourdough wrote:I second this. On a different but similar tangent, I really think that we should also have labels ala Europe about whether our food products are genetically modified.
Why is that?
Did you know that GE crops account for something like 80% of our food? Without GE crops we would all starve to death?
Still don't like them?
Watch: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7592468947754427068&q=bullshit+foodI necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
Jeanwah wrote:Exercise, in combination with eating right, has everything to do with weight loss. You said it yourself! Don't put down weight training, as it increases metabolism, this is a fact. So it does help. But I do agree with you that what we eat has more to do with it. I run 3 times a week, and if I'm trying to lose a couple pounds, running alone does not do it. But if I decrease my portion sizes and food choices, I end up losing the pounds.
Exactly. Exercise is as important as diet, at least for some people. That was my earlier point. It depends on your body type.0 -
Additional research, legal fees, ink, design costs......etc. basically whatever the marketing people trot out as a good excuse. If you add regulation, they will feed creative ways to prove that they need to pass along some additional costs.Abookamongstthemany wrote:Yes, I know, but how is using a portion of the package for labeling going to be that much more costly?All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.0 -
sourdough wrote:I second this. On a different but similar tangent, I really think that we should also have labels ala Europe about whether our food products are genetically modified.
There is no convicing evidence that genetically modified foods are harmful. Granted, more research studies need to be done, and many that are currently in progress need to be completed.0 -
That's because people don't realize that weight lifting adds muscle weight...while burning fat at the same time. You're still doing good weight training, you just won't see the results you're looking for at first. They come later with your continued weight routine.Ahnimus wrote:I was putting down weight training because it targets muscle developement. Too many people go to the gym and pump iron expecting to drop some pounds and are dissapointed by the results.0 -
sourdough wrote:obesity related problems etc drains the health care system and so it should be discouraged and subsidized by people who are high users/
Perhaps you should get rid of the "health care system" and actually have people subsidize their own health care in the first place? Stop pretending that the problems caused by the "health care system" are not the fault of the "health care system".0
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