Prostitution

Heineken Helen wrote:

didn't you?? :eek:

lol!

Heineken Helen wrote:

there are many things I can forgive a person of... even this! Just don't expect me to look at you the same way again or be your close friend if I know you've done something like this... I'm only human after all!

a guy paid for sex. hmmm... whats to forgive?

anways we just differ on this point. no biggie. i was just surprsied by what you said.

Heineken Helen wrote:

fair enough... and I'm sure many people would be... but I honestly just think it's disgusting... and if a male friend told me he'd done this I'd NEVER be able to look at him in the same way ever again. I'd just think pathetic and selfish... I can't help what I think but they're the two words that come into my head when I think of a guy paying for sex am I right or wrong? I certainly don't know... but that's how I feel... and I'm nothing if not honest.

pathetic and selfish? why selfish? some guys prefer sex with absolutely zero chance of blowback, you know? prostitutes provide that service. one can be treated with respect whilst still being paid for sex.

Heineken Helen wrote:

see I don't think you can sell sex like you can sell insurance... it's not a product... it's part of YOU! That's why I don't think it's conscience free... and I think a guy who could look at it that way certainly is not worthy of my friendship. He's only looking at it as fulfilling his own needs... and not the bigger picture... and THAT'S where I think selfish comes into it again I could be wrong.. but this is how I feel.

what bigger picture? you know helen sometimes you just want to fuck. its a primal urge and it needs fulfilling cause masturbating just doesnt cut it sometimes. making love to someone is something entirely different.

Heineken Helen wrote:

see I don't think you can sell sex like you can sell insurance... it's not a product... it's part of YOU! That's why I don't think it's conscience free... and I think a guy who could look at it that way certainly is not worthy of my friendship. He's only looking at it as fulfilling his own needs... and not the bigger picture... and THAT'S where I think selfish comes into it again I could be wrong.. but this is how I feel.

What about a massage? It's not a product, it's paying someone to do physical acts upon your body that are only for your own personal pleasure and benefit. The person getting a massage is only looking at it as fulfilling his or her own needs.

Pj_Gurl wrote:

Half the guys on this board? That would be thousands :eek:

Yep................:D

you know....like .... "hey, Roland....I hear you're a drummer....you know what they say about drummers and rhythm........" (seriously! )

catefrances wrote:

"make me wrong" what does this mean?
and who says giving in to 'animal desires' and seeking the services of a sex worker diminishes ones values?
of course urges need to be fulfilled one way or another. you can fool yourself all you like angleica but the fact is one way or another those urges are getting fulfilled either by direct means or by detour. and im not just talking about sex here either.

I think she's a drummer. You know what they say about celibate drummers...

catefrances wrote:

"make me wrong" what does this mean?
and who says giving in to 'animal desires' and seeking the services of a sex worker diminishes ones values?
of course urges need to be fulfilled one way or another. you can fool yourself all you like angleica but the fact is one way or another those urges are getting fulfilled either by direct means or by detour. and im not just talking about sex here either.

RIP George Harrison


"make me wrong" refers to that sometimes people don't understand my decision and have downgraded it from what it is.

What I say is that at this time, in my value system, having sex is not a necessity, if it would be outside my values.

you say: "who says giving in to "animal desires' and seeking the services of a sex worker diminishes one's values"

I don't know who says this. I know I didn't.

Oh, I fulfill my urges and desires all the time. And love doing so. I don't just sometimes 'need to f*$k ... cause masturbation just doesn't cut it...". I literally don't do it.

angelica wrote:

RIP George Harrison


"make me wrong" refers to that sometimes people don't understand my decision and have downgraded it from what it is.

What I say is that at this time, in my value system, having sex is not a necessity, if it would be outside my values.

you say: "who says giving in to "animal desires' and seeking the services of a sex worker diminishes one's values"

I don't know who says this. I know I didn't.

Oh, I fulfill my urges and desires all the time. And love doing so. I don't just sometimes 'need to f*$k ... cause masturbation just doesn't cut it...". I literally don't do it.

you said it.

the truth is, no amount of animal desire could cause me to give in in any way that would diminish my values.

or are you saying seeking the services of a sex worker wouldnt diminish your values?