A thought regarding Palin

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  • whitepants
    whitepants Posts: 729
    unsung wrote:
    The clean version.

    I wonder how many of these Hollyweird goofs that are slamming her had even heard of her two months ago?

    I think they are so fearful of her popularity, of which may be equal or higher than Obama's, that they are pulling out anything that they can to try to save their buddy Obama. They know she is a serious threat otherwise they wouldn't be wasting the energy that they are on her.

    Just a thought, no musician or celebrity could ever influence my voting decisions.



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  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    Speaking of which, why does it seem to me that it's consistently conservatives who bring up what celebrities are saying about politics, but then are sure to tell us that they'd never influence their vote? If not, then why bother bringing it up?
  • meistereder
    meistereder Posts: 1,577
    To address the original post, I just want to go on record and agree that Palin is a serious threat. And I am fearful too.
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  • saveuplife
    saveuplife Posts: 1,173
    digster wrote:
    Speaking of which, why does it seem to me that it's consistently conservatives who bring up what celebrities are saying about politics, but then are sure to tell us that they'd never influence their vote? If not, then why bother bringing it up?


    I have done this in the past. I wouldn't classify myself as conservative, but I've done it. Personally, I bring it up because I find it (them) funny. They think people "care" or they wouldn't be doing it. I see no difference between their opinion and a gas station attendent's in Omaha. They just have the soapbox. But, I believe they think their opinion is carries more weight then the general voter because they "think" they have superior intellect. I find the whole thing funny.... (this is a generalization but) most of "them" are highschool dropouts who are now rich as F.
  • azwyldcats
    azwyldcats Posts: 711
    Just wait until McCain actually pulls it off...
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  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    azwyldcats wrote:
    Just wait until McCain actually pulls it off...

    I'd say it's a coin flip at current.
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  • meistereder
    meistereder Posts: 1,577
    jimed14 wrote:
    I'd say it's a coin flip at current.


    A coin flip that will determine quite a bit about this nation's future, and the world.
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  • Gonzo1977
    Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    my2hands wrote:
    I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

    If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic,
    different.'
    Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.

    If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
    Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

    Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
    Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well
    grounded.

    If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the
    first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration
    drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with
    over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.

    If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council
    and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months
    as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to
    become the country's second highest ranking executive.

    If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising
    2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real
    Christian. If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your
    disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a
    Christian.

    If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
    If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no
    other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed
    teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

    If your wife is a Harvard graduate laywer who gave up a position in a
    prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city
    community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's.

    If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DWI
    conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age
    25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

    OK, much clearer now.


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    I couldn't have said this better myself. How anyone could vote McCain/Palin in 2008 is just a total mind fuck.

    This shouldn't even be a conversation at this point.

    Why is this race so close? seriously?

    WTF is wrong with America?
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    digster wrote:
    Speaking of which, why does it seem to me that it's consistently conservatives who bring up what celebrities are saying about politics, but then are sure to tell us that they'd never influence their vote? If not, then why bother bringing it up?
    Historically, most celebrity politicians have come from the Republican party. People like saveuplife bringing it up is just another case of projection. It's one of the staples of a good conservative campaign - pin your sins on the other guy, and all will be forgiven. Just ask Jesus - an entire religion was built around that one.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    I couldn't have said this better myself. How anyone could vote McCain/Palin in 2008 is just a total mind fuck.

    This shouldn't even be a conversation at this point.

    Why is this race so close? seriously?

    WTF is wrong with America?
    Its not what's wrong with America, its simply human nature. Humans justify they're wants and needs. Many want confirmation that they're religious beliefs are okay. Many want to feel comfortable with they're candidates, not feeling stupid, so they gravitate towards knuckleheads like Palin and Dubya. Many want to hang on to they're precious coins and can't bear to see one dollar to go to a minority. All very simple.
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  • brandon10
    brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    All these neocons that argue experience between Palin and Obama seem to forget that Obama was voted into the position he's in by the American people. Palin was picked by McCain's cronies.

    She is a flat out joke, so is anyone who tries to defend her.
  • willtupper
    willtupper Posts: 70
    I've not read this whole thread, but what I feel most for Sarah Palin is EMPATHY. Empathy, and pity. I feel bad for her! Because I have to figure that somewhere, probably when she was very young, something flat-out horrible (and most likely, sexual) happened to her. And that she's been trying to "make up" for that (shouldering blame that is not hers) her entire life.

    I've no basis for this opinion, no hard and fast evidence. It's just the impression that I get, seeing her on television, watching her be interviewed. And I AM tired of the partisan bickering, the "Us vs. Them" philosophy of our political system. I don't want that. I want her (and others, on "that side" of the debate) to know that I still consider them people, just as equal as anyone else. And that when their kids gets shot in Iraq, those are my kids, too.

    And I really hope that when this is all over, her daughter has a better life than the one the media's forced on her, so far.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    callen wrote:
    Its not what's wrong with America, its simply human nature. Humans justify they're wants and needs. Many want confirmation that they're religious beliefs are okay. Many want to feel comfortable with they're candidates, not feeling stupid, so they gravitate towards knuckleheads like Palin and Dubya. Many want to hang on to they're precious coins and can't bear to see one dollar to go to a minority. All very simple.


    What an insightful piece of crap.

    It's ok though, everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot, right?
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    I am actually from Alaska. Born and raised in Fairbanks. I have relatives who grew up in Wasilla and I have been there to visit them on many occasions. In my view, (trust me I am not alone here) that place can best be described as the "trailer park" of Alaskan towns. If it can be possible to catagorize an entire city as "white trash" this would be the place. Sarah Palin is exactly the kind of person who would win an election there. Now here she is just a few short years later, on the verge of the vice presidency. Hopefully the American people as a whole will collectively wake up and say "what the hell were we thinking?"
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    cincybearcat wrote:
    What an insightful piece of crap.

    It's ok though, everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot, right?

    Love you to Cincy. :)

    Did say many, not all and people that support Obama have the same need for justification.

    I'm sure my views are skewed as well...but how someone can in anyway justify giving Palin any chance whatsoever of becoming President....I just dont' know...its baffling. Maybe I'm wrong...who knows...I am but human.
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  • stupidcorporatewhore
    stupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
    saveuplife wrote:
    She has more executive experience than Obama. That's fact.

    Once again...

    If she's "qualified" then GWB is 10 times more experience and he's fucked us in about every way you can.

    she's a gimmick, she's the symbol of the fucking idiots the GOP thinks we are.
    unsung wrote:
    think they are so fearful of her popularity, of which may be equal or higher than Obama's, that they are pulling out anything that they can to try to save their buddy Obama. They know she is a serious threat otherwise they wouldn't be wasting the energy that they are on her.

    fearful of her? Oh, you betcha! her "tough policies"? her "tellin it like it is"?
    yeah, not so much.

    fucking up our country worse than it already is? oh yeah.

    she's a menace, a political nightmare in a dress.

    oh, and the real difference between Obama and Palin? experience? Nah....

    obama EARNED his nomination.
  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    g under p wrote:
    All this banter about VP candidate Sarah Palin reminds me of the song by the Heavy Metal bandPRONG *Contradictions*

    Time for double standards
    Now who shall be blamed
    With the change of weather
    Scapegoats are acclaimed
    Acts of no reason:
    populous response
    Opinions are like assholes
    Everyone's one

    All these contradictions
    Are bound to confuse
    What wrong will you choose?

    Can I ask a question?
    Or am I out of line
    Some more lip service
    Will smooth it out nice

    Peace

    g under p

    you're bringin the lyrics today eh?

    what are they smokin out in the sombrero galaxy?
    the Minions
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    unsung wrote:
    ...Just a thought, no musician or celebrity could ever influence my voting decisions.
    ...
    How is this any different from the person who is influenced by his/her... Church leader? Or Political Party's Agenda? Or Talk Radio Host?
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  • weenie
    weenie Posts: 1,623
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    I couldn't have said this better myself. How anyone could vote McCain/Palin in 2008 is just a total mind fuck.

    This shouldn't even be a conversation at this point.

    Why is this race so close? seriously?

    WTF is wrong with America?

    IMHO four words: deaf, dumb and blind :D
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  • DixieN
    DixieN Posts: 351
    Palin's popularity has crested. However, even so, she remains bigger news than McCain overall. He may become bigger news than she if it's true he would have enough pull to stop the $700 Billion Bailout if he so chose. But, for the time being, it's disturbing to think the VP to this point in time is driving the election harder than the actual candidate for president. It's pretty weird when a no-name from nowhere who doesn't want the press to cover anything of import that she says is of bigger interest than the Man Who Would be King, Stage III. It's perverse, to say the least.

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