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Speakers
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edited November 2008 in A Moving Train
All you right wingers are hating already. Why don't you give him at least 100 days? Why start off with negative hate already?

Obviously the 8 years hasn't worked. I understand the hate during the campaign. But the election is now over. The country decided to go in a new direction. Why not wait to see what happens?

If things get worse, continue hating but Obama isn't even in office yet and so many of you are doom and gloom predictors.

Take a deep breath, chill out and see what happens. You don't know the future so relax and let it happen.
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  • the right left paradigm is nothing but a control system!

    free your mind!!
  • blondieblue227
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  • eyedclaar
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    the right left paradigm is nothing but a control system!

    free your mind!!

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  • Speakers
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    'come together right now........over me' :)

    Yes please!
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Speakers wrote:
    All you right wingers are hating already. Why don't you give him at least 100 days? Why start off with negative hate already?

    Obviously the 8 years hasn't worked. I understand the hate during the campaign. But the election is now over. The country decided to go in a new direction. Why not wait to see what happens?

    If things get worse, continue hating but Obama isn't even in office yet and so many of you are doom and gloom predictors.

    Take a deep breath, chill out and see what happens. You don't know the future so relax and let it happen.

    If there's one thing the GOP has proved over the past 8+ years ... for their followers, it's easier to hate.
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  • angelica
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    the right left paradigm is nothing but a control system!

    free your mind!!
    I totally agree.
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  • Speakers wrote:
    All you right wingers are hating already. Why don't you give him at least 100 days? Why start off with negative hate already?

    Obviously the 8 years hasn't worked. I understand the hate during the campaign. But the election is now over. The country decided to go in a new direction. Why not wait to see what happens?

    If things get worse, continue hating but Obama isn't even in office yet and so many of you are doom and gloom predictors.

    Take a deep breath, chill out and see what happens. You don't know the future so relax and let it happen.



    good advice....for just about anything really. prejudging with no actions really helps nothing there. no matter what, it's all brand-new....we truly don't know.....so give a bit of time. and i know many believe it'll be same-old, same-old...business as usual, but again...you can't know.....so sure....... as keanu says, free your mind. ;)


    edit - oops...apparently crazy breed says it too. :p
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  • Speakers wrote:
    All you right wingers are hating already. Why don't you give him at least 100 days? Why start off with negative hate already?

    Obviously the 8 years hasn't worked. I understand the hate during the campaign. But the election is now over. The country decided to go in a new direction. Why not wait to see what happens?

    If things get worse, continue hating but Obama isn't even in office yet and so many of you are doom and gloom predictors.

    Take a deep breath, chill out and see what happens. You don't know the future so relax and let it happen.

    first, the first 100 days is a marketing tool, so give him the first year IMO. second, right wingers can't give him a chance because that would mean admitting they were wrong, and we all know rule #1 in Karl Rove's list is never admin you are wrong. If you piss on someones gate, are videotaped, and the world is watching, you still deny it. the right wingers are irrelevant now, the moderate republicans will prevail and take back control until Obama truly blows it, anything short of failure for Obama will show those that didn't vote for him out of fear of the spin they were fed was wrong, and that will hurt the right wing of the republican party, and empower moderates. Leaving about 35% of the country without of voice while 65% work together for the good of America.
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  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    I'd say this; if Obama moves away from his campaign proposals and attitude, and governs from the far left and more importantly in an extremely partisan attitude, then I wouldn't blame the GOP for being angry and what not. But if he follows through on what he's said and does make good faith efforts to reach out, and they reject it cause of whatever reason, then what the hell are they even in public service for? It would be hurting the country to help your political party.
  • dont hate the playa, hate the game.
  • digster wrote:
    I'd say this; if Obama moves away from his campaign proposals and attitude, and governs from the far left and more importantly in an extremely partisan attitude, then I wouldn't blame the GOP for being angry and what not. But if he follows through on what he's said and does make good faith efforts to reach out, and they reject it cause of whatever reason, then what the hell are they even in public service for? It would be hurting the country to help your political party.



    i wouldn't blame ANYone for being angry....b/c that is not what got him elected, not why people want him in office.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,952
    jimed14 wrote:
    If there's one thing the GOP has proved over the past 8+ years ... for their followers, it's easier to hate.


    Ok c'mon now...me thinks you are forgetting the extreme hate from the left for W and all things republican.

    The fact is, when the party you agree with is not in power, you end up not being happy and you end up being negative towards the "other guy"...hell, you just spent 8 years being that way, you'd think you'd remember.
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  • Ok c'mon now...me thinks you are forgetting the extreme hate from the left for W and all things republican.

    The fact is, when the party you agree with is not in power, you end up not being happy and you end up being negative towards the "other guy"...hell, you just spent 8 years being that way, you'd think you'd remember.


    not all of us have party affiliations ya know.
    just sayin'.....


    i am not for/against republicans or democrats per se....i am for candidates who more closely align with my personal pov. so i have never hated all things rep or dem. i have not been happy these past 8 years b/c of the decisions and actions made, has nothing do with the party.
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  • cincybearcat
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    not all of us have party affiliations ya know.
    just sayin'.....


    i am not for/against republicans or democrats per se....i am for candidates who more closely align with my personal pov. so i have never hated all things rep or dem. i have not been happy these past 8 years b/c of the decisions and actions made, has nothing do with the party.


    And many people are not happy with the direction Obama will be taking this country, it's natural for them to be upset. People say that they have to wait and see him screw up first, but for people that disagree with the road he is even about to walk down don't need to see where it leads, they want him to take a different road.

    All I'm saying is I understand why some people are happy and some people are pissed, and I don't think anyone needs to wait to say what they feel RIGHT now.
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  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    Ok c'mon now...me thinks you are forgetting the extreme hate from the left for W and all things republican.

    The fact is, when the party you agree with is not in power, you end up not being happy and you end up being negative towards the "other guy"...hell, you just spent 8 years being that way, you'd think you'd remember.

    I think the extreme hatred for Bush developed over the course of the monumental screwups his eight years in office contained, as well as the for lack of a better term, problematic way he entered office in January of 2001. As far back as I can remember, and from what those older than me tell me, there is hurt feelings but also the feeling of a 'clean slate' when a President enters office. We've always heard of the 100-day period, and Obama won a mandate; so I suppose it's a fair question to ask why the extreme hate.

    As I said, I'd understand completely if Obama governed in an extremely partisan manner, considering he ran on a message of bipartisanship. But if Obama does, in fact, make good efforts to work in a bipartisan manner and Republicans reject it, then in short, what the hell?
  • And many people are not happy with the direction Obama will be taking this country, it's natural for them to be upset. People say that they have to wait and see him screw up first, but for people that disagree with the road he is even about to walk down don't need to see where it leads, they want him to take a different road.

    All I'm saying is I understand why some people are happy and some people are pissed, and I don't think anyone needs to wait to say what they feel RIGHT now.



    well i do think some may be preemptively jumping the gun on just how *bad* it may be, even if they overall disagree with the road obama may take this country down, that's all. i agree it's natural to be upset by seeing the candidate and ideals that you support not make it, think the country will not be going in the direction you desire.....but really, i just think it's a bit overboard from the get-go is all. simply my opinion on it.


    anyhoo....were'nt we told over and over there's practically 'no difference' between obama and mccain, so what is everyone worried about? ;)
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  • cincybearcat
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    digster wrote:
    I think the extreme hatred for Bush developed over the course of the monumental screwups his eight years in office contained, as well as the for lack of a better term, problematic way he entered office in January of 2001. As far back as I can remember, and from what those older than me tell me, there is hurt feelings but also the feeling of a 'clean slate' when a President enters office. We've always heard of the 100-day period, and Obama won a mandate; so I suppose it's a fair question to ask why the extreme hate.

    As I said, I'd understand completely if Obama governed in an extremely partisan manner, considering he ran on a message of bipartisanship. But if Obama does, in fact, make good efforts to work in a bipartisan manner and Republicans reject it, then in short, what the hell?

    I think the hatred was there from the beginning...I think it never changed due to the screw ups, but plenty of people were pissed complaining about the direction of the country, etc before he ever set foot in the white house.

    Before they ever get into the white house, you know what they said they want to do.
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  • digster
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    And many people are not happy with the direction Obama will be taking this country, it's natural for them to be upset. People say that they have to wait and see him screw up first, but for people that disagree with the road he is even about to walk down don't need to see where it leads, they want him to take a different road.

    All I'm saying is I understand why some people are happy and some people are pissed, and I don't think anyone needs to wait to say what they feel RIGHT now.

    Well, people do need to take a wait and see attitude. No one knows how this man will lead the nation in the coming months and years. George Bush, if you remember, campaigned as a 'compassionate conservative', and attracted people across the country by his moderate version of the right-wing. If he had governed in the manner and by the message with which he campaigned, we would have had a different presidency.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,952
    digster wrote:
    and Obama won a mandate


    See...people hated W for saying stuff like this...and they should. Obama won 53% of the vote...that 47% against...that's hardly a mandate of any kind and he'd be good to remember that.

    To his credit, he mentioned it in his speech...I hope he remembers it. Because the reality is that even of that 53% that voted for him, they disagree with him on major issues, it's just that the religious right drove them away from the Republican party.
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  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    I think the hatred was there from the beginning...I think it never changed due to the screw ups, but plenty of people were pissed complaining about the direction of the country, etc before he ever set foot in the white house.

    Before they ever get into the white house, you know what they said they want to do.



    I think I'm a bit confused by what you're saying when you say the left; do you mean that far smaller portion of extreme partisans on 'the left', or do you mean half of the country that would consider themselves Democrat/left/liberal/whatever. Because I don't think you're giving the latter section much credit if you're throwing them in with the former in terms of being able to decide for themselves whether they like a president or not.