There is more than one God

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  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I don't think we read Hebrew

    Sorry, maybe I'm confused (and correct me if I am), but I thought the Christian Bible was originally written in Greek and not Hebrew.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    yosi wrote:
    Sorry, maybe I'm confused (and correct me if I am), but I thought the Christian Bible was originally written in Greek and not Hebrew.

    Matthew, Mark, Luke and John weren't Greek were they?
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Collin wrote:
    Is homosexuality mentioned anywhere in the NT? Because, I'm getting confused, just a page ago you said you didn't have to follow the laws of the OT.

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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Have you ever studied the bible objectively?

    have you?

    It's interesting that you dismiss everything that doesn't conform to your world view and anything that supports it is automatically correct. Perhaps you and evangelicals aren't too far apart in your thinking.
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    ForestBrain wrote:
    I know you like to think the KJV isn't translated correctly, but it is.
    you are probably 1 in a million who accepts this as a fact.

    and if there are 6 billion on earth then there are only about 6,000 of you who believe this.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    chopitdown wrote:
    have you?

    It's interesting that you dismiss everything that doesn't conform to your world view and anything that supports it is automatically correct. Perhaps you and evangelicals aren't too far apart in your thinking.

    Dude.

    I have, the similarities between Horus and Krishna are astounding.
    Mithraism hit Rome in the first century BCE as the Mithraic cult fled Persia. Here it flourished as the Sun God Natalis Solis Invicti (NSI). The leader of this religion ruled from what is now Vatican hill, which is a place previously sacred to Mithra. This male leader was called Papa (Pope). The Roman sun festival at the solstice celebrated NSI. Books in honor of NSI were called “Helio Biblia,” which translates to us as either “Sun Book” or “Holy Bible.” (I’ll bet they also contained a warning about looking directly at God, the Sun!)
    http://culturalvision.net/html/pagan_religions.html

    It becomes blatantly obvious what the Bible is when you look at it this way, instead of being brain-washed by the texts contained within it. The Bible was designed in such a way to convince people for centuries and only highly critical people would see through it, or dare challenge it.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Dude.

    I have, the similarities between Horus and Krishna are astounding.
    Mithraism hit Rome in the first century BCE as the Mithraic cult fled Persia. Here it flourished as the Sun God Natalis Solis Invicti (NSI). The leader of this religion ruled from what is now Vatican hill, which is a place previously sacred to Mithra. This male leader was called Papa (Pope). The Roman sun festival at the solstice celebrated NSI. Books in honor of NSI were called “Helio Biblia,” which translates to us as either “Sun Book” or “Holy Bible.” (I’ll bet they also contained a warning about looking directly at God, the Sun!)
    http://culturalvision.net/html/pagan_religions.html

    It becomes blatantly obvious what the Bible is when you look at it this way, instead of being brain-washed by the texts contained within it. The Bible was designed in such a way to convince people for centuries and only highly critical people would see through it, or dare challenge it.
    all of these ideas are extremely fascinating conspiracy theories.

    kinda like the 20 dollar bill that you fold and it looks like the burning twin towers. and you turn it around and you see the pentagon also in flames.
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Dude.

    I have, the similarities between Horus and Krishna are astounding.
    Mithraism hit Rome in the first century BCE as the Mithraic cult fled Persia. Here it flourished as the Sun God Natalis Solis Invicti (NSI). The leader of this religion ruled from what is now Vatican hill, which is a place previously sacred to Mithra. This male leader was called Papa (Pope). The Roman sun festival at the solstice celebrated NSI. Books in honor of NSI were called “Helio Biblia,” which translates to us as either “Sun Book” or “Holy Bible.” (I’ll bet they also contained a warning about looking directly at God, the Sun!)
    http://culturalvision.net/html/pagan_religions.html

    It becomes blatantly obvious what the Bible is when you look at it this way, instead of being brain-washed by the texts contained within it. The Bible was designed in such a way to convince people for centuries and only highly critical people would see through it, or dare challenge it.

    alls I'm saying is that it's convenient that since you believe there is no God and it's foolish; that you believe everything people say that supports your belief. You're bit of "objective" study is no more "objective" than mine. You want to believe there is no God so you find mountains of evidence that supports your view and you quote it religiously (pun intended). Just as I find information that supports my view. You see, I see you being brainwashed by all the texts and people who believe the bible to be bunk. You prescribe to their train of thought and eat it up, as long as it serves your purpose. The better question is, is it possible to be objective about something that requires faith and mandates a certain presupposition.
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    kinda like the 20 dollar bill that you fold and it looks like the burning twin towers. and you turn it around and you see the pentagon also in flames.
    you know that you can fold the twenty dollar bill to spell Osama too. Further proof of the conspiracy ;)
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    chopitdown wrote:
    you know that you can fold the twenty dollar bill to spell Osama too. Further proof of the conspiracy ;)
    oh, yeah i forgot that part too
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    chopitdown wrote:
    alls I'm saying is that it's convenient that since you believe there is no God and it's foolish; that you believe everything people say that supports your belief. You're bit of "objective" study is no more "objective" than mine. You want to believe there is no God so you find mountains of evidence that supports your view and you quote it religiously (pun intended). Just as I find information that supports my view. You see, I see you being brainwashed by all the texts and people who believe the bible to be bunk. You prescribe to their train of thought and eat it up, as long as it serves your purpose. The better question is, is it possible to be objective about something that requires faith and mandates a certain presupposition.

    What evidence have you provided? The Bible, i.e. Helio Biblia, what a joke man.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Hitch-Hiker
    Hitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    Right, I don't know the direction this thread has taken, but my thoughts on the original post are this:

    When God refers to 'Us' he's referring to god the father, god the son, and god the holy spirit - The blessed Trinity which is all one being. No doubt someone else has mentioned it.
    But as far as Christianity goes it's proclamation of there being one god is false anyway. The blessed trinity in itself contradicts the idea in a way. And the presence of all the angels etc contradicts it too. Just like the pagan religions which came beforehand, there are many different gods (eg: God of war, god of sea etc) These are the angels. Catholics in particular would pray to different angels and saints concerning different parts of their lives. Then god the Father is at the centre of it all. He equates to Zeus (if we are to take the greek gods as an example).
    Religion has stayed fundamentally the same throughout history. The Christians just worded it differently in their preaching.
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  • ForestBrain
    ForestBrain Posts: 460
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    you are probably 1 in a million who accepts this as a fact.

    and if there are 6 billion on earth then there are only about 6,000 of you who believe this.
    Am I supposed to find that surprising? The truth is never well-known. There are a lot of popular beliefs that are way off. It's the way of life.
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    ForestBrain wrote:
    Am I supposed to find that surprising? The truth is never well-known. There are a lot of popular beliefs that are way off. It's the way of life.
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Ahnimus wrote:
    What evidence have you provided? The Bible, i.e. Helio Biblia, what a joke man.

    there are many books out there that discuss the reliability of the Bible and of God. go to barnes and noble...amazon.com you can find many. I posted something about the answer to the quesiton of pain and offered a suggestion that attempts to answer that question, yet you didn't repsond at all. So if you're interested in learning about something other than your view I suggest you check out Josh McDowell, CS Lewis, Charles Ryrie (Basic Theology- very dry but informative).
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