any time i hear this one i immediately think of "ismael"
I think of snakes in the grass. And then, when I think of "snakes in the grass" I think of Richard Pryor in the movie "Which Way is Up?". In it, he confronts the pastor of the church (who's banging a number of women in the congregation) during the Sunday service. The Pastor (who's also played by Pryor) begins his defense with, "What low down snake in the grass would sleep with another man's wife?"
"You, you lying motherfucker."
I think of snakes in the grass. And then, when I think of "snakes in the grass" I think of Richard Pryor in the movie "Which Way is Up?". In it, he confronts the pastor of the church (who's banging a number of women in the congregation) during the Sunday service. The Pastor (who's also played by Pryor) begins his defense with, "What low down snake in the grass would sleep with another man's wife?"
"You, you lying motherfucker."
Right from the Bible check it out. There is more than one God and they do not want us to live forever.
1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
3:22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."
3:19In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
Interesting anyway, heard this on a Caltech conference, the speaker was John Hartung
A:
For someone that calls himself an atheist, you seem to be interested in religion. Are you looking for something?
Catholic dogma believes in the Holy Trinity. Three Gods in One. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. All three separate entities but at the same time One God. Don't ask me to explain, I can't comprehend it. That's why it is called faith. Just like Virgin birth (when God sent his Son to become man, i.e. Jesus), Resurrection and all other dogmas that constitute the Catholic faith.
From drbo.org, Gen3:22 is "And he said: Behold Adam is become as one of us, knowing good and evil: now, therefore, lest perhaps he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever."
Footnote says: 22 "Behold Adam"... This was spoken by way of reproaching him with his pride, in affecting a knowledge that might make him like to God.
That's what I can contribute to your questions. I wish I could explain more.
A:
For someone that calls himself an atheist, you seem to be interested in religion. Are you looking for something?
Catholic dogma believes in the Holy Trinity. Three Gods in One. All three separate entities but at the same time One God. Don't ask me to explain, I can't comprehend it. That's why it is called faith. Just like Virgin birth, Resurrection and all other dogmas that constitute the Catholic faith.
From drbo.org, Gen3:22 is "And he said: Behold Adam is become as one of us, knowing good and evil: now, therefore, lest perhaps he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever."
Footnote says: 22 "Behold Adam"... This was spoken by way of reproaching him with his pride, in affecting a knowledge that might make him like to God.
That's what I can contribute to your questions. I wish I could explain more.
This guy mentioned that the Torah is the "LAW" for both the Jews and Christians. That is wrong. It's only the law for Jews. The New Testament clearly points that Jesus fulfilled these laws so that we no longer live by them.
There are 3 components of God - Father, Son & Holy Spirit. It's called the Trinity. I thought you would have heard of that before...
Could anyone tell me where I can find this concept in the bible, please. I'd really like to know where it says that the father, the son and the holy spirit are one, explicitly. Preferably in the OT, since that's where Ahnimus got those verses.
Could anyone tell me where I can find this concept in the bible, please. I'd really like to know where it says that the father, the son and the holy spirit are one, explicitly. Preferably in the OT, since that's where Ahnimus got those verses.
You're nitpicking. know1 finds an agreeable tone in the trinity, that's all.
but seriously, worldwide there are many, many, many Gods in theory. how many are there in reality? is there any higher power? no one can answer that, and anyone that says they can is full of shit.
but seriously, worldwide there are many, many, many Gods in theory. how many are there in reality? is there any higher power? no one can answer that, and anyone that says they can is full of shit.
I'm not sure I understand.
Sure there is "higher" power. The forces of Nature and the Universe make the human effort seem almost inconsequential. Who or what gave us the "eye" to see that we are truly irrelevant? I don't know.
According to FinsburyParkCarrots, we humans didn't even think to see of ourselves in the light of the the individual self, until recently.
Right from the Bible check it out. There is more than one God and they do not want us to live forever.
3:22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."
If follow the rational of this verse, man (mankind, human beings) have all become Gods, as we have become one of them. Therefore we would all be Gods.
Make your life a mission - not an intermission. - Arnold Gasglow
For me-
Offense #1
And the Bible blames Eve (woman) for the hurt and death of all that will live. No paradise because of this apple.
Offense#2
How did all of mankind start from the union of two people. Kids would have had to procreate with siblings and on and on - Incest - no wonder this world has so many lunatics, yes?
so many more. There are great lessons written by man in this Bible but there is a lot of hate, fear and prejudice taught as well.
defense #1
God blamed Adam and Eve for what happened... They both had choices they both chose to eat of the fruit. They were both responsible.
Defense #2
You have to assume a perfect gene pool with adam and eve. If they have perfect genes then there is no variation / mutation in the genes and the problem of incest genetically is not there
make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Right from the Bible check it out. There is more than one God and they do not want us to live forever.
1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
Question: "Why does God refer to Himself in the plural in Genesis 1:26 and 3:22?"
Answer: Genesis 1:26 says, “Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.'” Genesis 3:22 states, "And the LORD God said, 'The man has now become like one of us...'" There are other Scriptures in the Old Testament that refer to God using the plural. It is also interesting to note that "Elohim," one of the primary titles of God in the Old Testament (occurring over 2500 times), is in the plural.
Some people have used these scriptures to hypothesize that there is more than one God. We can rule out polytheism (belief in multiple gods), because that would contradict countless other Scriptures that tell us that God is one and that there is only one God. Three times in Isaiah 45 alone, He states: “I am the LORD, and there is no other; there is no God besides Me” (vv. 5,6,18). A second possible explanation is that God was referring to the angels by saying "us" and "our." However, the Bible nowhere states that angels have the same "image" or "likeness" as God (see Genesis 1:26). That description is given to humanity alone.
Since the Bible, and the New Testament especially, presents God as a Trinity (three Persons but only one God), Genesis 1:26 and 3:22 can only represent a conversation within the Trinity. God the Father is having a "conversation" with God the Son and/or God the Holy Spirit. The Old Testament hints at the plurality of God, and the New Testament clarifies this plurality with the doctrine of the Trinity. Obviously, there is no way we can fully understand how this works – but God has given us enough information to know that He does exist in three Persons, - Father, Son and Holy Spirit. http://www.gotquestions.org/God-plural.html
make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
Yeah, it is. Glad you brought that up. I read this awhile back.
Emperor Julian, who, coming after the reign of the fanatical and murderous "good Christian" Constantine, returned rights to pagan worshippers, stated, "If anyone should wish to know the truth with respect to you Christians, he will find your impiety to be made up partly of the Jewish audacity, and partly of the indifference and confusion of the Gentiles, and that you have put together not the best, but the worst characteristics of them both."6
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Could anyone tell me where I can find this concept in the bible, please. I'd really like to know where it says that the father, the son and the holy spirit are one, explicitly. Preferably in the OT, since that's where Ahnimus got those verses.
If people would actually read the whole Bible, they would know (depending on whether or not they believe the Bible) that Jesus was always with God. He didn't just appear when he was born. He spoke with Abraham, too. There is a verse in the Bible that goes on about how Jesus was with God when he created the earth. The Word has always been too, but people wouldn't believe that little tidbit.
Where pray tell does the bible say Jesus was always with God?
Could anyone tell me where I can find this concept in the bible, please. I'd really like to know where it says that the father, the son and the holy spirit are one, explicitly. Preferably in the OT, since that's where Ahnimus got those verses.
I don't think you will find that anywhere in the Bible as explicit. There are many verses in Scripture that tie this concept together, but you won't find it as a definition.
Apparently it was only a small minority of people that originally believed in Christ, and the rest recognized it as a mish-mash of ancient stories. It makes sense why it's so hard to read and open to interpretation, because it doesn't make any sense. Noah's Ark was a Sumerian story, Christ was modelled after Krishna and so on. A bunch of pagan stories and what-not slewn together.
It was a great tool for controlling the masses and extracting their wealth back then, and it's a great tool now.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
If people would actually read the whole Bible, they would know (depending on whether or not they believe the Bible) that Jesus was always with God. He didn't just appear when he was born. He spoke with Abraham, too. There is a verse in the Bible that goes on about how Jesus was with God when he created the earth. The Word has always been too, but people wouldn't believe that little tidbit.
the easter bunny joined him....and Santa..he was there the whole time two...so it was us...only one god...but lots of other characters...
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I think of snakes in the grass. And then, when I think of "snakes in the grass" I think of Richard Pryor in the movie "Which Way is Up?". In it, he confronts the pastor of the church (who's banging a number of women in the congregation) during the Sunday service. The Pastor (who's also played by Pryor) begins his defense with, "What low down snake in the grass would sleep with another man's wife?"
"You, you lying motherfucker."
Great movie.
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never seen it, might have to check that out
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For someone that calls himself an atheist, you seem to be interested in religion. Are you looking for something?
Catholic dogma believes in the Holy Trinity. Three Gods in One. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. All three separate entities but at the same time One God. Don't ask me to explain, I can't comprehend it. That's why it is called faith. Just like Virgin birth (when God sent his Son to become man, i.e. Jesus), Resurrection and all other dogmas that constitute the Catholic faith.
From drbo.org, Gen3:22 is "And he said: Behold Adam is become as one of us, knowing good and evil: now, therefore, lest perhaps he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever."
Footnote says: 22 "Behold Adam"... This was spoken by way of reproaching him with his pride, in affecting a knowledge that might make him like to God.
That's what I can contribute to your questions. I wish I could explain more.
Maybe he needs a prayer?
Atheists pray, but I bet he doesn't think he can.
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Great movie!! Get it if you can. Another good Pryor movie from back in the day is "Blue Collar".
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I've added them on my queue. I'll check them out.
I don't get this, could you explain?
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It means, God says, Believe whichever Fiction you choose.
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Could anyone tell me where I can find this concept in the bible, please. I'd really like to know where it says that the father, the son and the holy spirit are one, explicitly. Preferably in the OT, since that's where Ahnimus got those verses.
naděje umírá poslední
You're nitpicking. know1 finds an agreeable tone in the trinity, that's all.
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wrong, there is only one Mike McCready :cool:
but seriously, worldwide there are many, many, many Gods in theory. how many are there in reality? is there any higher power? no one can answer that, and anyone that says they can is full of shit.
I'm not sure I understand.
Sure there is "higher" power. The forces of Nature and the Universe make the human effort seem almost inconsequential. Who or what gave us the "eye" to see that we are truly irrelevant? I don't know.
According to FinsburyParkCarrots, we humans didn't even think to see of ourselves in the light of the the individual self, until recently.
I need a beer.
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defense #1
God blamed Adam and Eve for what happened... They both had choices they both chose to eat of the fruit. They were both responsible.
Defense #2
You have to assume a perfect gene pool with adam and eve. If they have perfect genes then there is no variation / mutation in the genes and the problem of incest genetically is not there
Read
http://www.truthbeknown.com/origins.htm
Yeah, it is. Glad you brought that up. I read this awhile back.
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Question: "Why does God refer to Himself in the plural in Genesis 1:26 and 3:22?"
Answer: Genesis 1:26 says, “Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.'” Genesis 3:22 states, "And the LORD God said, 'The man has now become like one of us...'" There are other Scriptures in the Old Testament that refer to God using the plural. It is also interesting to note that "Elohim," one of the primary titles of God in the Old Testament (occurring over 2500 times), is in the plural.
Some people have used these scriptures to hypothesize that there is more than one God. We can rule out polytheism (belief in multiple gods), because that would contradict countless other Scriptures that tell us that God is one and that there is only one God. Three times in Isaiah 45 alone, He states: “I am the LORD, and there is no other; there is no God besides Me” (vv. 5,6,18). A second possible explanation is that God was referring to the angels by saying "us" and "our." However, the Bible nowhere states that angels have the same "image" or "likeness" as God (see Genesis 1:26). That description is given to humanity alone.
Since the Bible, and the New Testament especially, presents God as a Trinity (three Persons but only one God), Genesis 1:26 and 3:22 can only represent a conversation within the Trinity. God the Father is having a "conversation" with God the Son and/or God the Holy Spirit. The Old Testament hints at the plurality of God, and the New Testament clarifies this plurality with the doctrine of the Trinity. Obviously, there is no way we can fully understand how this works – but God has given us enough information to know that He does exist in three Persons, - Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
http://www.gotquestions.org/God-plural.html
Emperor Julian, who, coming after the reign of the fanatical and murderous "good Christian" Constantine, returned rights to pagan worshippers, stated, "If anyone should wish to know the truth with respect to you Christians, he will find your impiety to be made up partly of the Jewish audacity, and partly of the indifference and confusion of the Gentiles, and that you have put together not the best, but the worst characteristics of them both."6
http://www.gotquestions.org/Trinity-Bible.html
Where pray tell does the bible say Jesus was always with God?
I don't think you will find that anywhere in the Bible as explicit. There are many verses in Scripture that tie this concept together, but you won't find it as a definition.
So I asked,
Dear Jesus,
Are you Black?
Amen.
I'm still waiting for an answer.
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does it matter?
You'll never run out of anti-christian sources.
wait a minute, hang on, i'm getting something, i'm getting an answer...nipsey russel? no no..wait. i hear a voice, louder, louder...
BLACK AS A HEART ATTACK!
Jesus just spoke to me, he spoke to us all.
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it isn't anti-christian. it's reality.
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so again I ask...does it matter?
Apparently it was only a small minority of people that originally believed in Christ, and the rest recognized it as a mish-mash of ancient stories. It makes sense why it's so hard to read and open to interpretation, because it doesn't make any sense. Noah's Ark was a Sumerian story, Christ was modelled after Krishna and so on. A bunch of pagan stories and what-not slewn together.
It was a great tool for controlling the masses and extracting their wealth back then, and it's a great tool now.
Apparently it does, to you.
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the easter bunny joined him....and Santa..he was there the whole time two...so it was us...only one god...but lots of other characters...