michael moore sucks.

hell no bro ... totaly disagree ... america should be ashamed of themselves for treating americans the way they do ... or should i say lack of treating :( its quite sad ....

cheers to moore for putin to em

farfromglorified wrote:

Michael's impending heart attack is really in a race with America's adoption of universal health care.....

If I were a betting man, I would take the heart attack as winning that race.

i don't know what Michael Moore's morbid obesity, pending heart attack, or pending diabetes has to do with his social commentary. Personally, i think he is an obvious propagandist in his own right. His films and commentary are transparently spun, distorted and over the top. That being said, he does point out issues that seriously need to be addressed. Being fairly leftist myself, i tend to appreciate him to a certain degree. He IS pretty hard to take to seriously though. He is kind of like the polar opposite of Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. Not really the place to look for unbiased, unspun, objective commentary.

cornnifer wrote:

i don't know what Michael Moore's morbid obesity, pending heart attack, or pending diabetes has to do with his social commentary.

They have everything to do with his recent social commentary when that commentary suggests that Michael Moore's morbid obesity, pending heart attack or pending diabetes become my responsibility.

Personally, i think he is an obvious propagandist in his own right. His films and commentary are transparently spun, distorted and over the top. That being said, he does point out issues that seriously need to be addressed.

I agree! Now, wouldn't you also agree that Michael Moore's morbid obesity, pending heart attack or pending diabetes are also issues that seriously need to be addressed?

Being fairly leftist myself, i tend to appreciate him to a certain degree. He IS pretty hard to take to seriously though. He is kind of like the polar opposite of Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. Not really the place to look for unbiased, unspun, objective commentary.

Very much agreed.

I'd like to see people become educated on eating disorders.

Will1659 wrote:

Yeah so would I. But the prevalence of real eating disorders is so far below that of obesity in this country, it's not even an argument. Both are bad for you. But one is just much more of a public health concern right now.

What is your source of information?

Kel Varnsen wrote:

I think there is some irony in the fact that he is critical of problems in the US health care system when a major drain on the health care system is obese people. If people generally ate better and exercised there would be more doctors available for people who need them.

you ever hear of genetics? not all obese people are gluttons. not all people with cardiac issues are obese, not all diabetics are obese. obesity can lead to a multitude of health problems, but there are more causes of obesity than poor diet and lack of exercise. his health issues, potential or otherwise should have no bearing on your opinion of him.

i am not understanding your second sentence. i take it as if you are saying "if everyone ate and exercised, then there would be more doctors available for people who REALLY need them" as if obesity is something that does not require medical attention. what do you think primary care doctors deal with???? hypertension, diabetes, high cholesterol, COPD, osteoarthritis, etc all potential effects of obesity. these are what keeps primary care doctors in business. if there were no obese people there would be alot of doctors sitting around picking their noses with no patients to treat.

angelica wrote:

What is your source of information?

Four years of medical school. The combined lifetime prevalence of anorexia nervosa, bulemia nervosa, and eating disorder not otherwise specified is well under 10%. Overweight, 50%; and actually obese, around 25%. I am not trying to minimize the seriousness of eating disorders; I have seen them firsthand. I am simply saying that to pretend they're a bigger problem than the opposite end of the spectrum is to just be ignorant of the facts.

cornnifer wrote:

i don't know what Michael Moore's morbid obesity, pending heart attack, or pending diabetes has to do with his social commentary. Personally, i think he is an obvious propagandist in his own right. His films and commentary are transparently spun, distorted and over the top. That being said, he does point out issues that seriously need to be addressed. Being fairly leftist myself, i tend to appreciate him to a certain degree. He IS pretty hard to take to seriously though. He is kind of like the polar opposite of Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. Not really the place to look for unbiased, unspun, objective commentary.

I agree with this. I'm not a fan of Michael Moore or his methods, but he's a thorn in the sideof the authorities and that's always important.

Will1659 wrote:

Four years of medical school. The combined lifetime prevalence of anorexia nervosa, bulemia nervosa, and eating disorder not otherwise specified is well under 10%. Overweight, 50%; and actually obese, around 25%. I am not trying to minimize the seriousness of eating disorders; I have seen them firsthand. I am simply saying that to pretend they're a bigger problem than the opposite end of the spectrum is to just be ignorant of the facts.

I'd like to see a link to support your claims.