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  • farfromglorifiedfarfromglorified Posts: 5,699
    It's only one question in, but Rep. Paul hit the nail on the head. Reagan parallels should go over well.

    Rough delivery though on his first two. Good message but looks a bit shrill. Getting shafted on the # of questions again though.
  • farfromglorifiedfarfromglorified Posts: 5,699
    Hehe....

    Ron Paul says the unsay-able in a Republican debate. Goodbye candidacy. Nice to see you principle..........
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Love how he stood up to Guiliani.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Hehe....

    Ron Paul says the unsay-able in a Republican debate. Goodbye candidacy. Nice to see you principle..........

    Well it is unfortunate that the truth is taboo in politics.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Paul should gain some interest, if nothing else...glad he challenged Fooliani.
    "All governments are murderers and liars."
    -Bill Hicks
  • farfromglorifiedfarfromglorified Posts: 5,699
    mammasan wrote:
    Well it is unfortunate that the truth is taboo in politics.

    It sure is.
  • If anyone is interested, you can participate in the FOX News poll; texting R7 )for Paul) to 36988. If you're voting in favor of another candidate, look up the code yourself.
    "All governments are murderers and liars."
    -Bill Hicks
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    I had respect for Paul prior to this debate and after watching his response and how he stuck to his response I have even greater respect for him.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    I disagree with Ron Paul on a good number of things, but you just can't help but like a guy with the guts to say something true in the middle of a political debate. That's something you don't see every day.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • Paul's Orwell reference > Tancredo's Jack Bauer reference.
    "All governments are murderers and liars."
    -Bill Hicks
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    hippiemom wrote:
    I disagree with Ron Paul on a good number of things, but you just can't help but like a guy with the guts to say something true in the middle of a political debate. That's something you don't see every day.


    Definetly. Unfortunetly the majority of this country is still living with their heads up their ass believing that they hate us for our freedoms.

    Shows you how sad the state of affairs is in politics when telling the truth cost you the chance to be president.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • farfromglorifiedfarfromglorified Posts: 5,699
    Hehe...Ron's kicking ass in the online polls again...right as he'll pull out of the campaign....

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18659382/
  • farfromglorifiedfarfromglorified Posts: 5,699
    HAH! They just announced that Ron is winning the text message poll too. The look on Hannity's face was fucking priceless.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    HAH! They just announced that Ron is winning the text message poll too. The look on Hannity's face was fucking priceless.

    I am loving it.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    mammasan wrote:
    Definetly. Unfortunetly the majority of this country is still living with their heads up their ass believing that they hate us for our freedoms.

    Shows you how sad the state of affairs is in politics when telling the truth cost you the chance to be president.
    Rudy couldn't get himself to Sean Hannity's microphone quick enough after the debate, he was so excited to go over his denunciation of Paul's comments and to remind us all that "they" hate us for our freedom :rolleyes:

    I was disappointed to again see the so-called "second-tier" candidates get shafted on the number of questions. Who decided that they were "second-tier" anyway? Not one vote has been cast yet, they're ALL first-tier candidates as far as I'm concerned, as are all the Democrats.

    This whole process is such bullshit.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    HAH! They just announced that Ron is winning the text message poll too. The look on Hannity's face was fucking priceless.
    :D

    Is it still going? If it's pissing Hannity off, I'm gonna go vote.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    HAH! They just announced that Ron is winning the text message poll too. The look on Hannity's face was fucking priceless.

    Nice! I had to turn off Fox because it was driving me nuts, but I wish I could have seen that. LOL.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • farfromglorifiedfarfromglorified Posts: 5,699
    hippiemom wrote:
    :D

    Is it still going? If it's pissing Hannity off, I'm gonna go vote.

    Hehe...yes. Text R7 to 36988.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    hippiemom wrote:
    Rudy couldn't get himself to Sean Hannity's microphone quick enough after the debate, he was so excited to go over his denunciation of Paul's comments and to remind us all that "they" hate us for our freedom :rolleyes:

    I was disappointed to again see the so-called "second-tier" candidates get shafted on the number of questions. Who decided that they were "second-tier" anyway? Not one vote has been cast yet, they're ALL first-tier candidates as far as I'm concerned, as are all the Democrats.

    This whole process is such bullshit.

    Well that's the way they get the herd to vote for the favorites. Rudy is such a tool. If he wins the nomination I would love to see Bloomberg run as an inde and suck away the votes from his Northeastern base.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    hippiemom wrote:
    :D

    Is it still going? If it's pissing Hannity off, I'm gonna go vote.

    I already voted.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    hippiemom wrote:
    I was disappointed to again see the so-called "second-tier" candidates get shafted on the number of questions. Who decided that they were "second-tier" anyway? Not one vote has been cast yet, they're ALL first-tier candidates as far as I'm concerned, as are all the Democrats.

    This whole process is such bullshit.

    Not only do the "second-tier" candidates get shafted on number of questions, they also are continuously referred to as "second-tier" candidates by analysts so that we know they aren't to be taken seriously.

    And it will carry over to the general elections, when 3rd party candidates are treated the same way. If you aren't anointed by the media, you're fucked.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Hehe...yes. Text R7 to 36988.
    Done :D
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • The moderators were ridiculous toward Rep. Paul. I expected them to ask "When did you stop beating your gay lover?" and "Why do you hate the streams and rolling hills of America so much?".
    "All governments are murderers and liars."
    -Bill Hicks
  • mammasan wrote:
    I already voted.

    I voted too, if nothing else but to root for the underdogs who America's supposedly 'not ready for yet'.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    jeffbr wrote:
    Not only do the "second-tier" candidates get shafted on number of questions, they also are continuously referred to as "second-tier" candidates by analysts so that we know they aren't to be taken seriously.

    And it will carry over to the general elections, when 3rd party candidates are treated the same way. If you aren't anointed by the media, you're fucked.

    Well for the most part the "second Tier" candidates are usually the candidates that put principle before party. God know the Democrats and Republican leadership don't want that.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jeffbr wrote:
    Not only do the "second-tier" candidates get shafted on number of questions, they also are continuously referred to as "second-tier" candidates by analysts so that we know they aren't to be taken seriously.

    And it will carry over to the general elections, when 3rd party candidates are treated the same way. If you aren't anointed by the media, you're fucked.

    Exactly.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    The moderators were ridiculous toward Rep. Paul. I expected them to ask "When did you stop beating your gay lover?" and "Why do you hate the streams and rolling hills of America so much?".

    They where definetly playing favorites.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    I voted too, if nothing else but to root for the underdogs who America's supposedly 'not ready for yet'.

    Well maybe these polls are a small sign that America is ready.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • farfromglorifiedfarfromglorified Posts: 5,699
    The moderators were ridiculous toward Rep. Paul. I expected them to ask "When did you stop beating your gay lover?" and "Why do you hate the streams and rolling hills of America so much?".

    Hehe...this is funny, but I actually disagree. Ron was asked some tough questions, but so were the other candidates. The questions were well-tailored to the candidates' individual perspectives.

    Certainly the second-tierers got shafted on the # of questions, but the questions themsevles weren't terribly unfair, IMO.
  • farfromglorifiedfarfromglorified Posts: 5,699
    mammasan wrote:
    Well maybe these polls are a small sign that America is ready.

    If only that were the case....

    Ron is winning polls because Ron is the only candidate in that field that a big group of people is excited about. The unfortunate fact is that, considering the entire population of this country, Ron appeals only to a very small number. Ron, in one of his less-controversial answers tonight, challenged America to reconsider their philosophy on government. The response, unfortunately, is going to be a resounding "no". The American people, for the most part, are and will continue to look to government for their property, for the right and force to oppress the minds of others, and for the force required to impose its will on the world, rather than for the freedoms and rights that make property, thought, and exchange possible.
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