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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Not me, I'm a heartless bastard, ask anyone.

    i don't think so. hardheaded maybe.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Jeanie wrote:
    Ha!!! I've been reading, you seem more like a Caramello Koala to me! ;)

    That's not an insult btw. Carmello Koala's are hard on the outside, soft on the inside.

    Shit, and here I thought I evolved from a damn ape. Things are much clearer now!

    Thanks :)
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    onelongsong wrote:
    i don't think so. hardheaded maybe.

    I think it's genetic :(

    Have fun onelongsong!
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Androgynous Mind
    Androgynous Mind Posts: 520
    NCfan wrote:
    I just feel that it is morally wrong towards the child for them to be raised in a homosexual household.

    Agreed.
    Oh he fills it up with the love of a girl...
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    VictoryGin wrote:
    do you know more about how that happens--the exposure to DES and whatnot?

    Yea, some digested substances are small enough to traverse the placenta, which is the babies connection to the mother. So drugs like DES go through the placenta to the baby. It's called a teratogen. Things like Vit C (excess amounts), Cocain, Alcohol, Tobacco, and so on, all teratogens.

    EDIT: I forgot some important ones, German Measels, Hormone treatment and Influenza. I'm sure there are more, look up Teratogens online for a better listing.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    onelongsong wrote:
    i am honored to meet you.
    Ditto my friend!
    onelongsong wrote:
    i guess i've never really grown up. i carry too much hurt with me. when i learn to forget it only comes back to slap me in the face when it happens again.

    Well don't give up! Sooner or later somebody won't. Well that's my experience anyway. I guess the best thing I learnt is to not let the f***ers stop me from trying to find the good folk. And I still carry the hurt but I don't let it dictate my life because that just gives the perpertrators of the hurt more power. ie it allows them to continue to hurt you. Be f***ed I'm giving those a**holes any more power!!!
    Anyhoo hope you'll be my friend anyway :)

    BTW sorry I took so long to respond. Have I mentioned that dial-up sucks???!!!
    NOPE!!!

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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    onelongsong wrote:
    to be honest; i think all children are abused in one way or another. a loving parent can loose their temper. a loving parent can loose track of what's important when they have a bad day at work. i've seen what i thought were perfect parents call their child a f'n idiot. that's where my 90% opinion comes from. people don't see what goes on behind closed doors; but the kids tell.
    Getting preoccupied with work from time to time, or the occasional stupid outburst, does not constitute child abuse, anymore than occasional misbehavior means you have a bad kid on your hands. That's human imperfection, and you've done it too. Everyone has. The overall environment that you provide the majority of the time is what matters. Kids know you're not perfect. If you screw up, admit it and apologize and they'll forgive you, just as you forgive them. Unless it's a constant cycle, it's not a big deal.

    I absolutely agree that there are a LOT of unfit parents out there, but it's nowhere near 90%.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Shit, and here I thought I evolved from a damn ape.
    Well we all did, but some of us have developed intimadating exteriors in order to protect our softer, vunerable inner selves. ;) (Shit, can't believe I said that!)
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Things are much clearer now! Thanks :)

    Thought they might be!!! :D

    So going off subject completely, I would be very interested to hear your views (not statistics) on the stem cell debate and can you please go very gently? My brain is a fragile thing. (Think Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz) ;)
    NOPE!!!

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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    hippiemom wrote:
    Getting preoccupied with work from time to time, or the occasional stupid outburst, does not constitute child abuse, anymore than occasional misbehavior means you have a bad kid on your hands. That's human imperfection, and you've done it too. Everyone has. The overall environment that you provide the majority of the time is what matters. Kids know you're not perfect. If you screw up, admit it and apologize and they'll forgive you, just as you forgive them. Unless it's a constant cycle, it's not a big deal.

    I absolutely agree that there are a LOT of unfit parents out there, but it's nowhere near 90%.

    i did do it and didn't find out the full ramifications until i started working with kids. a parent calling a kid a f'n idoit or worthless stays with them longer than most think.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Jeanie wrote:
    Well we all did, but some of us have developed intimadating exteriors in order to protect our softer, vunerable inner selves. ;) (Shit, can't believe I said that!)



    Thought they might be!!! :D

    So going off subject completely, I would be very interested to hear your views (not statistics) on the stem cell debate and can you please go very gently? My brain is a fragile thing. (Think Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz) ;)

    when someone finds a part ape; part human; i may believe. we have fossils from mars yet no missing link. DNA has linked every person with a black man in africa yet no reasonable links have ever been made between man and ape. only theories.
    sorry i changed the subject but you started it.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Jeanie wrote:
    Ditto my friend!



    Well don't give up! Sooner or later somebody won't. Well that's my experience anyway. I guess the best thing I learnt is to not let the f***ers stop me from trying to find the good folk. And I still carry the hurt but I don't let it dictate my life because that just gives the perpertrators of the hurt more power. ie it allows them to continue to hurt you. Be f***ed I'm giving those a**holes any more power!!!
    Anyhoo hope you'll be my friend anyway :)

    BTW sorry I took so long to respond. Have I mentioned that dial-up sucks???!!!

    i don't befriend many people but i've never lost a friend either. looks like we're friends for life now.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Jeanie wrote:
    Well we all did, but some of us have developed intimadating exteriors in order to protect our softer, vunerable inner selves. ;) (Shit, can't believe I said that!)

    Thought they might be!!! :D

    So going off subject completely, I would be very interested to hear your views (not statistics) on the stem cell debate and can you please go very gently? My brain is a fragile thing. (Think Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz) ;)

    On stem-cell research?

    Well, personally, any fetus or embryo that has already been aborted should by all means be used for stem-cell research.

    I'm not opposed to embryonic stem-cell research where the embryo is cultured in the lab either.

    Stem-cell research will help us in many significant ways, and although it may be debatable ethically, I think it's defeatus to completely abort the research.

    EDIT: Umm, no pun intended.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    well, if homosexuality is a disease(which i personally don't believe it is) it's obviously not contagious. otherwise the whole world would be gay..... and way better dressed. ;):D:p
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    onelongsong wrote:
    i don't befriend many people but i've never lost a friend either. looks like we're friends for life now.

    Suits me! Happy to know you and call you my friend. I'm very good at reciprocating loyalty myself so I guess you're stuck with me! ;)

    As for the bizo about the first black man and the apes I doubt very much we will ever know. I think I stick to the ape theory as opposed to the "creation" theory but I suppose I really hold that we started as cell life and probably crawled out of the swamps or the oceans. (Jumping forward to apes from that sits better in my mind!) ;) Look all I really know is that I came from some bloke back in England and a few folk from Ireland and Poland. That's enough for me. Really I have no idea how I came to be here!!!! ;)
    NOPE!!!

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  • Scubascott
    Scubascott Posts: 815
    NCfan wrote:
    It is a fact that homosexuality is an anomally among animals.

    http://www.primates.com/bonobos/bonobosexsoc.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_sexuality#Homosexual_behavior

    Just for interest's sake.
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

    -C Addison
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Ahnimus wrote:
    On stem-cell research?

    Well, personally, any fetus or embryo that has already been aborted should by all means be used for stem-cell research.

    I'm not opposed to embryonic stem-cell research where the embryo is cultured in the lab either.

    Pleased to hear and agree with your views.
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Stem-cell research will help us in many significant ways, and although it may be debatable ethically, I think it's defeatus to completely abort the research.

    I think it's defeatist to completely abort the research?
    Ahnimus wrote:
    EDIT: Umm, no pun intended.

    Very funny :D

    So why do you think that so many people are opposed to it on ethical grounds. The reason I ask is because it seems (and I could be very wrong) that the majority of Americans don't support it (or is that just because your voices have been hijacked by the religious right?) and up until this week I though we Aussies would be following suit (because most of us have been completely hijacked by the religious element in our current government) but amazingly they have just passed the debate through both houses in favor of the research.
    NOPE!!!

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  • sonicreducer
    sonicreducer Posts: 713
    homo schmomo

    if you don't make a big deal out of it, it won't be an issue.
    you're a real hooker. im gonna slap you in public.
    ~Ron Burgundy
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Jeanie wrote:
    Pleased to hear and agree with your views.



    I think it's defeatist to completely abort the research?



    Very funny :D

    So why do you think that so many people are opposed to it on ethical grounds. The reason I ask is because it seems (and I could be very wrong) that the majority of Americans don't support it (or is that just because your voices have been hijacked by the religious right?) and up until this week I though we Aussies would be following suit (because most of us have been completely hijacked by the religious element in our current government) but amazingly they have just passed the debate through both houses in favor of the research.


    but without the support of either the PM john howard or the leader of the opposition kevin rudd. i think that's what i heard this morning.
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    catefrances wrote:
    but without the support of either the PM john howard or the leader of the opposition kevin rudd. i think that's what i heard this morning.

    That's correct catefrances both of them voted against it and disappointingly so did Peter Garrett. (I'm finding it harder and harder to reconcile the man we now see with the man I thought I knew)
    Anyway we've still got a long way to go as the ammendments to the legislation won't be finalized until next year and I'm a firm believer in there's many a slip between cup and lip. :)
    NOPE!!!

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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Jeanie wrote:
    Pleased to hear and agree with your views.



    I think it's defeatist to completely abort the research?



    Very funny :D

    So why do you think that so many people are opposed to it on ethical grounds. The reason I ask is because it seems (and I could be very wrong) that the majority of Americans don't support it (or is that just because your voices have been hijacked by the religious right?) and up until this week I though we Aussies would be following suit (because most of us have been completely hijacked by the religious element in our current government) but amazingly they have just passed the debate through both houses in favor of the research.
    The majority of Americans DO support it. Unfortunately, they often vote for politicians who are opposed to it, because they base their vote on other issues. But in the one state where it was on the ballot this year (Missouri, a conservative state), it was approved.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963

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