A thought regarding Palin

PearlJain · September 2008

unsung wrote:

The clean version.

I wonder how many of these Hollyweird goofs that are slamming her had even heard of her two months ago?

I think they are so fearful of her popularity, of which may be equal or higher than Obama's, that they are pulling out anything that they can to try to save their buddy Obama. They know she is a serious threat otherwise they wouldn't be wasting the energy that they are on her.

Just a thought, no musician or celebrity could ever influence my voting decisions.

I didn't even bother to read ahead. I can only imagine the "Leftist" attacks you may/may not have received. This kind of crap - i.e. .....posting things like this - is....well- for a lack of better words....dumb. This websight is dominated by "teenagers" and "those that think they still are teenagers" - even on the "Moving Train" Thread. Everyone appears to be an "Obama Lover."

I agree with your points on Palin however....thus far. I am a very conservative Democrat, and equally a Liberal Republican. I hate being "Labled." I personally vote my conscience.

While I do understand (at least from PJ's Tampa concert) that EV is a screaming Obama Fan. Good for him. However - Obama discusts me personally.

With all of that said - I personally like Sarah Palin. I like her straightforwardness, I like that she's female.....and I like that I can somewhat relate to her. Being a complete VEGAN - I don't agree with the "hunting" thing she does. ((Nor the "Moose Stew" she says she loves) -However - she lives in ALASKA! That's what people do there. Again - I wholeheartededly disagree with with the "hunting" thing. But I am sure Obama doesn't mind pushing his personal chair up to some murdered turkey or cow when he eats. To me personally - slaughterhouses are much worse.

To each his own - and I personally don't care what anyone on this thread says.

digster · September 2008

Rose1963 wrote:

While I do understand (at least from PJ's Tampa concert) that EV is a screaming Obama Fan. Good for him. However - Obama discusts me personally.

With all of that said - I personally like Sarah Palin. I like her straightforwardness, I like that she's female.....and I like that I can somewhat relate to her. Being a complete VEGAN - I don't agree with the "hunting" thing she does. ((Nor the "Moose Stew" she says she loves) -However - she lives in ALASKA! That's what people do there. Again - I wholeheartededly disagree with with the "hunting" thing. But I am sure Obama doesn't mind pushing his personal chair up to some murdered turkey or cow when he eats. To me personally - slaughterhouses are much worse.

To each his own - and I personally don't care what anyone on this thread says.

First, I have to wonder what is so disgusting about Obama that would make you not vote for him. I should say, I understand not voting for him, disbelieving his positions on the issues, but 'disgusting' is kind of a strange way of putting it. I wouldn't vote for John McCain or Sarah Palin in a hundred years, but I wouldn't say they disgust me.

The thing about Palin that I don't understand is that you didn't mention one issue in what attracts you to her. I don't see that asking that makes me a flaming liberal, or an elitist, but if you feel that way that's not my intention, but so be it. What does it matter that she's a female, or a hunter? As a self-described Liberal Republican, what about her positions on the social issues attract her to you? I suppose I'm just not seeing what a liberal Republican/conservative Democrat would see if they were basing the decision on the issues. I'd love to know that position on it.

g under p · September 2008

Rose1963 wrote:

I didn't even bother to read ahead. I can only imagine the "Leftist" attacks you may/may not have received. This kind of crap - i.e. .....posting things like this - is....well- for a lack of better words....dumb. This websight is dominated by "teenagers" and "those that think they still are teenagers" - even on the "Moving Train" Thread. Everyone appears to be an "Obama Lover."

I agree with your points on Palin however....thus far. I am a very conservative Democrat, and equally a Liberal Republican. I hate being "Labled." I personally vote my conscience.

While I do understand (at least from PJ's Tampa concert) that EV is a screaming Obama Fan. Good for him. However - Obama discusts me personally.

With all of that said - I personally like Sarah Palin. I like her straightforwardness, I like that she's female.....and I like that I can somewhat relate to her. Being a complete VEGAN - I don't agree with the "hunting" thing she does. ((Nor the "Moose Stew" she says she loves) -However - she lives in ALASKA! That's what people do there. Again - I wholeheartededly disagree with with the "hunting" thing. But I am sure Obama doesn't mind pushing his personal chair up to some murdered turkey or cow when he eats. To me personally - slaughterhouses are much worse.

To each his own - and I personally don't care what anyone on this thread says.

What's an INCOMPLETE VEGAN? What's your thoughts on abortion or the death penality since Obama might murder a chicken or a turkey?

Peace

Anon · September 2008

Rose1963 wrote:

I didn't even bother to read ahead. I can only imagine the "Leftist" attacks you may/may not have received. This kind of crap - i.e. .....posting things like this - is....well- for a lack of better words....dumb. This websight is dominated by "teenagers" and "those that think they still are teenagers" - even on the "Moving Train" Thread. Everyone appears to be an "Obama Lover.".

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with the teenager comment.
I mainly post in the musicians forum and AMT. The musicians forum is not as busy as the other forums. There are a couple of 'teenagers' in particular who are great kids. Real switched on and very appreciative of the help that we give them there. Just good people you know?

Rose1963 wrote:

I agree with your points on Palin however....thus far. I am a very conservative Democrat, and equally a Liberal Republican. I hate being "Labled." I personally vote my conscience..

I'm guessing most people would be voting their conscience.

Rose1963 wrote:

While I do understand (at least from PJ's Tampa concert) that EV is a screaming Obama Fan. Good for him. However - Obama discusts me personally..".

I don't give a rats ass who Ed is a fan of. That has no influence over my political preferences at all. I just see eddie vedder as a brilliant and talented musician. i enjoy being a fan. i am not a disciple.

Why does obama disgust you?

Rose1963 wrote:

With all of that said - I personally like Sarah Palin. I like her straightforwardness, I like that she's female.....and I like that I can somewhat relate to her. Being a complete VEGAN - I don't agree with the "hunting" thing she does. ((Nor the "Moose Stew" she says she loves) -However - she lives in ALASKA! That's what people do there. Again - I wholeheartededly disagree with with the "hunting" thing. But I am sure Obama doesn't mind pushing his personal chair up to some murdered turkey or cow when he eats. To me personally - slaughterhouses are much worse. .".

I don't mind too much what obama eats, i'm not basing my vote on his dining habits. I'm basing my vote on which candidate has the policies that are most closely aligned to my views.

Rose1963 wrote:

To each his own - and I personally don't care what anyone on this thread says.

I do care and take an interest in what others say. Granted, i don't always agree, and can be quite outspoken in my views, but i do think i am at least receptive to having an open mind for a different view. Sometimes we have to just accept that people see things differently, and move along.

QuestionAuthority · September 2008

willtupper wrote:

I've not read this whole thread, but what I feel most for Sarah Palin is EMPATHY. Empathy, and pity. I feel bad for her! Because I have to figure that somewhere, probably when she was very young, something flat-out horrible (and most likely, sexual) happened to her. And that she's been trying to "make up" for that (shouldering blame that is not hers) her entire life.

I've no basis for this opinion, no hard and fast evidence. It's just the impression that I get, seeing her on television, watching her be interviewed. And I AM tired of the partisan bickering, the "Us vs. Them" philosophy of our political system. I don't want that. I want her (and others, on "that side" of the debate) to know that I still consider them people, just as equal as anyone else. And that when their kids gets shot in Iraq, those are my kids, too.

And I really hope that when this is all over, her daughter has a better life than the one the media's forced on her, so far.

No offense to you here.. but one thing I do not feel toward her is pity or empathy. I have been trying to be informed and have been trying to get as much information on her as is possible and the conclusion I come up with is that she seems a bit ruthless.. she has a clear agenda. She is power hungry. She is clique-ish. She awards only loyalty, not necessarily good work.. but how loyal you are to her. She is conyving. She is a proven liar also. I do not trust her what so ever and I am terrified if she is the one taking that call at 3 am.

She is no one I would want my daughter to look up to as a role model.

You feel sorry for her daughter.. should that not have been something she considered BEFORE she choose to take the offer of VP? She had to know it would come out and that her daughter would be in the news.

PearlJain · September 2008

digster wrote:

First, I have to wonder what is so disgusting about Obama that would make you not vote for him. I should say, I understand not voting for him, disbelieving his positions on the issues, but 'disgusting' is kind of a strange way of putting it. I wouldn't vote for John McCain or Sarah Palin in a hundred years, but I wouldn't say they disgust me.

The thing about Palin that I don't understand is that you didn't mention one issue in what attracts you to her. I don't see that asking that makes me a flaming liberal, or an elitist, but if you feel that way that's not my intention, but so be it. What does it matter that she's a female, or a hunter? As a self-described Liberal Republican, what about her positions on the social issues attract her to you? I suppose I'm just not seeing what a liberal Republican/conservative Democrat would see if they were basing the decision on the issues. I'd love to know that position on it.

Hhhhmmmmm.....
Here we go - something I wanted to avoid. Nothing personal. So don't take it that way. However -I didn't see you defend anything about your so obvious candidate. And- you remain nothing to me - nor your opinion of me. You are just words on a websight. I welcome you to defend Obama and his policies (cough - cough). My social concerns outweigh whichever person you peronally deem fit....

QuestionAuthority · September 2008

Rose1963 wrote:

Hhhhmmmmm.....
Here we go - something I wanted to avoid. Nothing personal. So don't take it that way. However -I didn't see you defend anything about your so obvious candidate. And- you remain nothing to me - nor your opinion of me. You are just words on a websight. I welcome you to defend Obama and his policies (cough - cough). My social concerns outweigh whichever person you peronally deem fit....

Exactly what do you see in Sarah Palin that you deem fit in regards to your social concerns?

digster · September 2008

Rose1963 wrote:

Hhhhmmmmm.....
Here we go - something I wanted to avoid. Nothing personal. So don't take it that way. However -I didn't see you defend anything about your so obvious candidate. And- you remain nothing to me - nor your opinion of me. You are just words on a websight. I welcome you to defend Obama and his policies (cough - cough). My social concerns outweigh whichever person you peronally deem fit....

Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not sure what you're asking me. I asked in response to your description of the positive qualities of Palin what issues there were that moved you towards her, because you didn't mention any. I also wondered what had caused you to be 'disgusted' by Obama, because that's a pretty strong word. And I don't see what my support for Obama or any other candidate has to do with those questions. I didn't know that I was supposed to list each and every reason I support an opposing candidate before I ask someone about their views. But if you need an explanation about why I support Obama it's in this thread, about 3/4 down the page; http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=303938. Can we return to the first question then?

PearlJain · September 2008

QuestionAuthority wrote:

Exactly what do you see in Sarah Palin that you deem fit in regards to your social concerns?

This email is for you as well as Di-gest...or however that person spells it.

I realized that I put myself "out there" by replying to this thread. One will no doubt be personally attacked by those whom disuade from the majority (of this websight). It's a matter of choice. And I choose to use the word "discust" when I think of voting for Obama. I will NEVER vote for OBAMA!!!! And I don't have to explain it to anybody. Thanks for asking me to however. I don't want to debate this. It is what it is. Period....the end. But much love to you in your decison(s).

brandon10 · September 2008

Rose1963 wrote:

I didn't even bother to read ahead. I can only imagine the "Leftist" attacks you may/may not have received. This kind of crap - i.e. .....posting things like this - is....well- for a lack of better words....dumb. This websight is dominated by "teenagers" and "those that think they still are teenagers" - even on the "Moving Train" Thread. Everyone appears to be an "Obama Lover."

I agree with your points on Palin however....thus far. I am a very conservative Democrat, and equally a Liberal Republican. I hate being "Labled." I personally vote my conscience.

While I do understand (at least from PJ's Tampa concert) that EV is a screaming Obama Fan. Good for him. However - Obama discusts me personally.

With all of that said - I personally like Sarah Palin. I like her straightforwardness, I like that she's female.....and I like that I can somewhat relate to her. Being a complete VEGAN - I don't agree with the "hunting" thing she does. ((Nor the "Moose Stew" she says she loves) -However - she lives in ALASKA! That's what people do there. Again - I wholeheartededly disagree with with the "hunting" thing. But I am sure Obama doesn't mind pushing his personal chair up to some murdered turkey or cow when he eats. To me personally - slaughterhouses are much worse.

To each his own - and I personally don't care what anyone on this thread says.

You made a comment about their being a lot of kids here. But I'd prefer a kid with his/her head on their shoulders to your old racist ass.

digster · September 2008

Rose1963 wrote:

This email is for you as well as Di-gest...or however that person spells it.

I realized that I put myself "out there" by replying to this thread. One will no doubt be personally attacked by those whom disuade from the majority (of this websight).

How is someone asking you a question personally attacking you? Both the people who have responded to your posts (myself and QuestionAuthority) have been completely respectful, whereas you've been rude and dismissive. Who's personally attacking who? Quit playing the victim, please. I asked you a bunch of perfectly legitimate questions. Don't want to answer them? Fine, but don't try to spin this as me "attacking" you.

g under p · September 2008

Strangest Tribe wrote:

g under p

you're bringin the lyrics today eh?

what are they smokin out in the sombrero galaxy?

g under p wrote:

All this banter about VP candidate Sarah Palin reminds me of the song by the Heavy Metal bandPRONG *Contradictions*

Time for double standards
Now who shall be blamed
With the change of weather
Scapegoats are acclaimed
Acts of no reason:
populous response
Opinions are like assholes
Everyone's one

All these contradictions
Are bound to confuse
What wrong will you choose?

Can I ask a question?
Or am I out of line
Some more lip service
Will smooth it out nice

Peace

Man I'm not smoking anything right now but come December when I head off to South Florida to my second home for 6 months. Yes I'll be smoking up a storm as I pass Jupiter on my way to that far away galaxy THE Sombrero Galaxy.

Just bringing a different perspective/a musical perspective to all this banter in this very important election year. Sort of like an election time out, an opportunity to breath then have at it again.

I sort of disbanded this election once my candidate of choice Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul dropped out and we are left with the two candidates we must choose from.

I wasn't going to vote but I've now chosen to get involved weed out the truth about these candidates and make a choice based on what I believe they can do for me and this country.

That said they're ALL the same fucking wolves in sheep disguises though.

Peace

Anon · September 2008

digster wrote:

How is someone asking you a question personally attacking you? Both the people who have responded to your posts (myself and QuestionAuthority) have been completely respectful, whereas you've been rude and dismissive. Who's personally attacking who? Quit playing the victim, please. I asked you a bunch of perfectly legitimate questions. Don't want to answer them? Fine, but don't try to spin this as me "attacking" you.

I responded too and i do believe i was respectful.

QuestionAuthority · September 2008

Rose1963 wrote:

This email is for you as well as Di-gest...or however that person spells it.

I realized that I put myself "out there" by replying to this thread. One will no doubt be personally attacked by those whom disuade from the majority (of this websight). It's a matter of choice. And I choose to use the word "discust" when I think of voting for Obama. I will NEVER vote for OBAMA!!!! And I don't have to explain it to anybody. Thanks for asking me to however. I don't want to debate this. It is what it is. Period....the end. But much love to you in your decison(s).

Ok.. to each his own.. but YOU came to a webSITE to post an opinion and in return you insulted the webSITE, forum and plus the people who post on it.. does not make alot of sense. I do not feel personally attacked because I feel that Sarah Palin would be an awful person in office ~ it is a matter of choice.

This forum is for one to DEBATE issues.. learning from each other.. you want to declare your "DISCUST" (I am assuming you mean disgust, but you have incorrectly spelled it twice) for Obama and that you would never vote for him.. that is your CHOICE.. but you should not get offended when someone asks for your reasoning.

PearlJain · September 2008

brandon10 wrote:

You made a comment about their being a lot of kids here. But I'd prefer a kid with his/her head on their shoulders to your old racist ass.

Whhhhaaaatttt? Perhaps you quoted the wrong person?

brandon10 · September 2008

Pj_Gurl wrote:

I responded too and i do believe i was respectful.

I wasn't. Sorry, I couldn't help myself. You can read through that racism a mile away. And it disgusts me.

digster · September 2008

I would just love to hear how I "personally attacked" her. I personally attacked her by asking a question?

QuestionAuthority · September 2008

brandon10 wrote:

I wasn't. Sorry, I couldn't help myself. You can read through that racism a mile away. And it disgusts me.

I have a feeling you hit the nail here..

Anon · September 2008

digster wrote:

I would just love to hear how I "personally attacked" her. I personally attacked her by asking a question?

You didn't. There was nothing wrong with your posts.

PearlJain · September 2008

digster wrote:

How is someone asking you a question personally attacking you? Both the people who have responded to your posts (myself and QuestionAuthority) have been completely respectful, whereas you've been rude and dismissive. Who's personally attacking who? Quit playing the victim, please. I asked you a bunch of perfectly legitimate questions. Don't want to answer them? Fine, but don't try to spin this as me "attacking" you.

Thank you for your reply. First - "Question Authority" is a complete PETA term. I feel I was respectful and NOT "rude" and " dismissive." I certainly don't think I'm a victim -and am trying to be an adult. YOU are the one "spinning." Explain why you dislike Sarah Palin (whom is not the Presidential candidate) and then also explain why you feel that Obama is the best choice. I'm open to reconsider (although I doubt my opinion will change). To me, Obama is nothing but words. McCain puts Palin to the microphone and lets her do his talking. Both canidates suck. In my personal opinion however - Obama sucks worse. The upcoming debates will speak for themselves. And for the "Victim Remark" - Go FY!

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