Mall Security Beating Shoplifter (video)

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Always the coldest, clean cut logic.

This guy might of had a lapse in judgement and did something stupid but you have a huge lapse in judgement when it comes to treating people humanely. A criminal, no matter how small or big, is still a human being. But of course, more people are worried about the theft of a tiny bottle of liquor over the abuse inflicted on another person. When we put higher value on our 'things' and the protection of them over living, breathing, feeling people then it's no wonder the world is in the shape it is in. But that's what the Jesus says, right know1, to beat a person down the moment he steps out of line and does something idiotic??? Somehow he must have morphed into a monster at that moment. Or maybe the monster's in the mirror...

This was not "beating someone down." They were just trying to subdue the guy. How many times did they call out for the police? Their main goal was to have the guy arrested. There were two very, very weak punches thrown, and the rest of it was just trying to get the guy to stop moving. A real cop would have done the same thing as the Rent-a-Cop. If the guy was in such pain, he would have stopped fighting and pushing back, BUT, he didn't want to face the consequences of his actions, so he must not have been in too much pain. To say the guy apprehending him was a monster is just ludicrous. He was doing his job and should be proud.

There are high school wrestling matches that get more rough than this.

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Right, I wonder why people were telling them to back off then. Because they were tickling him too hard?

you honestly think that was a beating??? he was hit 2 or 3 times and they weren't even full swings. the rest of that video was them trying to get cuffs on him while he resisted.

someone enlighten me, if someone is resisting what the fuck are you supposed to do?

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Or maybe he wouldn't have been struggling so hard if he wasn't being assaulted. That can go both ways. And he could have been terriblely frightened causing him to act in this manner, as well. I don't think stealing a bottle of liquor automatically makes the guy a 'fucker'.

Why do you stand up for the criminal, and against the guy doing his job? Everytime. Anybody stealing anything is a "fucker."

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Or you could think of it as I stated...maybe the abuse started before his attempts to break free. You don't know and neither do i but it's always fun to assume and judge.



What tells you that? ASSumptions? It's wise to hold back judgement until you actually have some kind of proof to back you up.

yeah, i could think of it the way you stated it...but i'm not going to.

right, i don't know the guy from adam. doesn't change my opinion that he's done this before.

moeaholic wrote:

yeah, i could think of it the way you stated it...but i'm not going to.

right, i don't know the guy from adam. doesn't change my opinion that he's done this before.

Nice to know you how well informed you like to be before forming your opinions.

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Nice to know you how well informed you like to be before forming your opinions.

i'm not like that with every issue. i'm just going with my gut on this one.

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

And anyone assaulting someone unnecessarily is also a criminal. The theft of the liquor doesn't not justify inhumane treatment.

Where was the inhumane treatment? Tackling someone is inhumane?

Do you believe in consequences for bad behavior?

Seriously, how does this guy suffer the consequences of his behavior. Under your thinking, he can steal a bottle of liquor everday. Think about it. He comes in and steals some liquor, security stops him, but he puts up a fight, and since you don't belive in "inhumane" treatment, security lets him go, because it is only a beer.

The next day the guy comes in, and security tells him he has to leave. But first the guy grabs a bottle and "puts up another fight" and so again, according to you, security lets him go because it is only a beer. You see where I'm going with this? It could go on until the day the thief dies.

Then you say, call the police. But again, if the guy resists arrest, and you don't believe he should be subdued, then he'll just fight his way away from the police. You obviously don't believe in guns, so the cops can't use that as a deterrent. And if you believe tackling someones is inhumane, a stun gun isn't in order. So, the guy can steal his liquor and food everyday, and if you were in charge of security, would get away with it.

A lot of the time, these shoplifters are selling goods on for drugs, to fences who never get so much as a broken fingernail. Such is the cruelty of the black market, that the most vulnerable people in this chain of organised crime would get a kicking from moronic security guards, while the real scum never get as much as a reprimand, from the real police.

darkcrow wrote:

it was more a comment on people on this thread saying the guy got what he deserved. we have laws, police, a judicial system for a reason, so that if people break the law they are delt with in a fair way. for a guy to be beaten up for stealing and then for people on this board to applaude it i think is awful. not a day goes by when someone is bitching about how cruel muslims are but this is just the same. so the guy stole something, big fucking deal. it wasnt like he was fucking children or raping women.

He wasn't beat up! The guys were just sitting on top of him to keep him there before the police came. There were two "punches," which had no velocity to them (they wouldn't even have left a bruise). We are glad because unlike you, we believe that those who break laws should be punished. If this would have happened 50 years ago, the guy would have gotten his ass kicked (deservedly so). Our greatest generation. Old school. I love it. We turned into a bunch of pussies.

I bet you hate trial lawyers, but for some reason you take the criminal's side everytime. The guy was stealing alcohol, has no respect, and either should have gotten a bat to the head from the cashier or gotten an ass kicking from security. He got neither, which is the injustice here.

aNiMaL wrote:

Dude, if there is anything that I hate more than pig headed, control freak, big bad billy tough guy police officers who fly way over board when their adrenaline gets flowing....is mall security rent-a-fucking-cops who also suffer from the same affliction that the aforementioned police officers suffer from.

It was good to hear some guy questioning the security guards decisions and actions. I would have as well.

What should they have done? Let him run away? If so, then he could do it everyday and never get punished. People like you need to tag along with a police officer for a week in a bad neighborhood and see the things that have to deal with.

My brother's 70 year-old aunt (in-law) was mugged at 1:30 in the afternoon at a mall. People deserve a good beating, and the guy in this youtube clip did not get a beating.

But I really want to know what they should have done. If they were to just let him run away, what should they do when he comes back the next day? He's just going to run again. And if you don't think a rent-a-cop should tackle the guy, then calling the real cops ain't gonna change anything. If you aren't for tackling someone, then you aren't going to be for a stun gun. And the police aren't going to shoot someone over a beer, so they won't shoot him if he runs. So, in your world, he never gets punished. I want to live in the world you envisio, then i will never have to pay for food, and I'll have a nice plasma tv.