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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    macgyver06 wrote:
    The Ak is unreliable..it gets hot to the point you cant pick it up becasue its gas powered...its not very accurate...its dangerous to! these things explode in your hand in sustained fire..

    but its bullets are the size of your mom..thats the only advantage which isnt anything nowadays..
    Cheap, my man, cheap.............that is the main advantage. Cheap to buy, cheap to maintain and the parts are cheap. The availability is also an important factor.

    Danger is an accepted factor in war.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    jlew24asu wrote:
    and just as tragic for a 25, 35, 45 year old. thats not the point. no one is claiming its less/more tragic.

    again, how about a 31 year old?

    wouldnt you be more confident in knowing your 18 year old was out there then 12? the mental and physical matureness is 10 fold. not in all cases, but most.

    forced to let others look out for you? what the hell does that mean? 18 year old can look out for themselves MUCH better then 12. that is a fact.

    Well, if they both die.. the 18 year old would have expeience much more dread than the 12 year old..

    comparing them is useless.... War sucks - for everyone.
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you really are an expert on this issue. you seriously should consider being a consultant for rogue states and army militias

    hey listen man..it is not my fault you choose to not know.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    macgyver06 wrote:
    hey listen man..it is not my fault you choose to not know.
    not to know what?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Well, if they both die.. the 18 year old would have expeience much more dread than the 12 year old..

    comparing them is useless.... War sucks - for everyone.
    yea I agree. fact still remains that there is a big difference in sending between 12 and 18 year olds.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    macgyver06 wrote:
    hehe add another one to the list!

    FOREVER MISINFORMED!! and loving it!!

    lets not actually try and figure out why its ok to get shot by an 18 yr old but not a 12 yr old


    It's never ok to be shot by anyone, but there is a difference between an adult, because that's what 18 year olds are, voluteering to join an army and a 12 year old being kidnapped and being forced to be in an army. Now if you are to fucking stupid to tell the difference then there is no use in trying to have an intelligent conversation with you. I didn't start this thread so simplistic morons like you could come on here and turn this into another US bash-fest. This problem supercedes nations and political parties, but thank you for dragging a serious issue into the gutter.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    jlew24asu wrote:
    yea I agree. fact still remains that there is a big difference in sending between 12 and 18 year olds.

    no there isnt! in fact it makes more sense to send 12 year olds in war really..you can probaly train them faster as far as getting them ready to be trained killers.

    this is based that they are vulnerable and that teaching them war could in fact be....all that they know.

    jlew..it is war. I hope these tactics aren't new to you...and if its shocking to see a 12 year old soldier well than how crazy would it be to have a 14 yr old king...or queen...


    NOT THAT CRAZY when talking about something thats crazy to begin with.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    macgyver06 wrote:
    no there isnt! in fact it makes more sense to send 12 year olds in war really..you can probaly train them faster as far as getting them ready to be trained killers.

    this is based that they are vulnerable and that teaching them war could in fact be....all that they know.

    jlew..it is war. I hope these tactics aren't new to you...and if its shocking to see a 12 year old soldier well than how crazy would it be to have a 14 yr old king...or queen...


    NOT THAT CRAZY when talking about something thats crazy to begin with.
    He actually has a point with this argument......our distaste for 12 year old soldiers is a cultural bias. We also think that arranged marriages and 12 &13 year olds getting married and making babies is a bad thing. Those are not universal standards nor is an agreed upon age of conscription. These are dirty little wars...........and in dirty little wars, many of our western morals get tossed out the window (if the western moral values were even there in the first place.).
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    mammasan wrote:
    It's never ok to be shot by anyone, but there is a difference between an adult, because that's what 18 year olds are, voluteering to join an army and a 12 year old being kidnapped and being forced to be in an army. Now if you are to fucking stupid to tell the difference then there is no use in trying to have an intelligent conversation with you. I didn't start this thread so simplistic morons like you could come on here and turn this into another US bash-fest. This problem supercedes nations and political parties, but thank you for dragging a serious issue into the gutter.

    holy cow! :) who is bashing the U.S.??

    the first post i made..i just wanted to get across...that you really shouldnt be shocked by this...of course it is wrong..but when you are born into a situation i think thats hostile and poor from day one and your told how people have it better than you..

    theres something more here..i cant really put into words...but warlords/generals of any nation that are fixated on war and destruction use whatever means necessaary to win battles...unfortunately these weapons come witha childs face.. its war and they are all crazy...not just warlords..

    don't neglect our craziness in thinking its ok what we are doing...thats all im saying...no one is right..and i hate seeing articles like this because it sidetracks peoples minds i believe...

    war is evil. its chapters and weapons of any kind are within the term WAR.

    WAR...we are at war...we can end it tomorrow.
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    if questioning crazy...lets not forget this weapon..lol

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/08/world/main1693064.shtml
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    macgyver06 wrote:
    if questioning crazy...lets not forget this weapon..lol

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/08/world/main1693064.shtml
    In reference to the linked article, South Park did that first..........did not know that there were a lot of South Park fans in Afghanistan.....;)
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    i know its supposed to be funny...but where it says...''also 2 land mines''

    i can just picture this little middle eastern guy looking around for explosives and saying ''what the hell''
  • chewwie10
    chewwie10 Posts: 9
    macgyver06 wrote:
    are you happy being ignorant or what..lol


    you realize the AK47 is phased out....

    If the point hasn't come across by now I doubt it will, but still...

    http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/smallarms/articles/2003/0811deadliest.htm
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    chewwie10 wrote:
    If the point hasn't come across by now I doubt it will, but still...

    http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/smallarms/articles/2003/0811deadliest.htm


    hopefully http://www.tow.com/photogallery/2005/20050126_macgyver_dvd/images/fullsize/macgyver_dvd.jpg will read this
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    mammasan wrote:
    http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa/02/12/child.soldiers/index.html

    in vietnam we had baby soldiers. babies were booby-trapped and left for americans to rescue. then killed by the explosion. most arms are made overseas now. isreal makes the best. starting with the uzi. for other arms; the parts are made overseas and possibly assembled here. we may have the technology; but others profit from the manufacture.
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    chewwie10 wrote:
    If the point hasn't come across by now I doubt it will, but still...

    http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/smallarms/articles/2003/0811deadliest.htm

    whats your point?? lol that there is an AK47..i think we all know that?
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    onelongsong wrote:
    in vietnam we had baby soldiers. babies were booby-trapped and left for americans to rescue. then killed by the explosion. most arms are made overseas now. isreal makes the best. starting with the uzi. for other arms; the parts are made overseas and possibly assembled here. we may have the technology; but others profit from the manufacture.

    I'm sure arms from every country are being sold across the globe. I didn't start this thread to debate which country sells the most small arms and to whom. I saw a sad and disturbing article and thought I would share it with the rest of the Train.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    mammasan wrote:
    I'm sure arms from every country are being sold across the globe. I didn't start this thread to debate which country sells the most small arms and to whom. I saw a sad and disturbing article and thought I would share it with the rest of the Train.
    Thank you for posting the article......."children soldiers" are something that we as species can't seem to get away from........we see this time and again in underdeveloped nation-states. Was it in Cambodia or Laos where the two teenage boys were the head of a militant group in the country's hinterlands?
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    macgyver06 wrote:
    whats your point?? lol that there is an AK47..i think we all know that?
    really? you seem to lol alot when I brought it up about it being used by almost all rogue states. you also said it has been phased out. get a grip dude
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    tybird wrote:
    Thank you for posting the article......."children soldiers" are something that we as species can't seem to get away from........we see this time and again in underdeveloped nation-states. Was it in Cambodia or Laos where the two teenage boys were the head of a militant group in the country's hinterlands?


    I may be wrong but I believe it was Laos.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul

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