Put Away the Flags

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    applenut wrote:
    Since when is that the policy on this board? Only when everyone agrees on cursing at some one is it allowed?

    Give me a break.

    She needs an education.

    (and apparently a life...5600+ posts)

    read the sticky at the top of the page oh master of education
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    A Surprise Left wrote:
    our crime is organised....your crime is a bunch of ratbags going around redfern causing chaos....:p

    oh that's not crime. it's kicking against the pricks who hold us down. :p
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  • SmallTown
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    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    read the sticky at the top of the page oh master of education

    Sound advice. The education begins.
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    ...nevermind, not worth it...
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • hailhailkc
    hailhailkc Posts: 582
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Well thank you Shawn :) It took us a while but we finally learned how to reply to one another without snapping the others head off. :D And it's much better this way.

    You're very welcome. :) And yes, it is much better this way. :D Besides...we're like family. If someone is gonna snap one of our heads off around here, by God, it's gonna be one of us...not someone from the outside, lol!!! ;):D:D
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  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    MOKELE M'BEMBE wrote:
    Why don't you live in Norway?

    I ask myself that question a lot. Basically, my friends and immediate family keep me here. And relocating to another continent is kinda expensive, I bet. :)

    Plus, it could be a lot worse. I appreciate the freedoms I have. I'm also glad I live in Massachusetts. I think postives outweigh the negatives in this state. If only New England would secede from the union.
  • hailhailkc
    hailhailkc Posts: 582
    applenut wrote:
    Since when is that the policy on this board? Only when everyone agrees on cursing at some one is it allowed?

    Give me a break.

    She needs an education.

    (and apparently a life...5600+ posts)

    While I have broken that policy many times on this board, it actually IS the policy of the board. Please just stick to the issues and debate her on the merits of her post. We don't need this thread locked down. It's an interesting topic.
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    applenut wrote:
    Go light a joint and shut the fuck up.
    Holy funkballs!.. the french are on board today..


    You're a classy guy, applenuts.

    :cool:








    to books original idea.. I think flags are kind of dumb. They symbolize pride, something most people have a hard time swallowing.. but if someone wants to hang one, I could careless...

    My White Sox flag will stay high and proud however, letting Cubs fans know that I'm better and they suck. :D :cool:
  • hailhailkc
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    Kenny Olav wrote:
    I ask myself that question a lot. Basically, my friends and immediate family keep me here. And relocating to another continent is kinda expensive, I bet. :)

    Plus, it could be a lot worse. I appreciate the freedoms I have. I'm also glad I live in Massachusetts. I think postives outweigh the negatives in this state. If only New England would secede from the union.

    Just so you know, I read your earlier post, and I do understand where you're coming from...and also where Mr. Zinn is coming from. I don't agree with his point, but I do understand it. As usual, you have managed to reign me back in and think things through instead of continuing to lash out. Thank you. Happy 4th of July.
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  • El_Kabong
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    hailhailkc wrote:
    While I have broken that policy many times on this board, it actually IS the policy of the board. Please just stick to the issues and debate her on the merits of her post. We don't need this thread locked down. It's an interesting topic.


    yes, i think we would be better off
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • A Surprise Left
    A Surprise Left Posts: 743
    catefrances wrote:
    oh that's not crime. it's kicking against the pricks who hold us down. :p

    and lets not forget the lebanese vs aussie riots that occured quite recently.....LOL what a sad, sad day.....
    i don't really understand the almost self-loathing of the u.s some have on this board but i do respect the fact abook and others are not going to take pride in something they are not proud of. better to be like that then to be a ted nugent or britney spears. here down under we don't really get into national pride unless it happens to be following the wallabies or the socceroos. that only changes on ANZAC day....
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  • Lizard
    Lizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    Interesting points.

    I think I will take down my flag after listening to McCready's Star Spangled Banner!!

    :D
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  • Abookamongstthemany
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    hailhailkc wrote:
    You're very welcome. :) And yes, it is much better this way. :D Besides...we're like family. If someone is gonna snap one of our heads off around here, by God, it's gonna be one of us...not someone from the outside, lol!!! ;):D:D

    This has to got be one of the most dysfunctional families ever!
    :D:p
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  • VictoryGin
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    Kenny Olav wrote:
    Plus, it could be a lot worse. I appreciate the freedoms I have. I'm also glad I live in Massachusetts. I think postives outweigh the negatives in this state. If only New England would secede from the union.

    New England + New York! :)

    Although I have quite a soft spot for the PNW, but I got to go with where I'm at!
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  • Heatherj43
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    hailhailkc wrote:
    You're very welcome. :) And yes, it is much better this way. :D Besides...we're like family. If someone is gonna snap one of our heads off around here, by God, it's gonna be one of us...not someone from the outside, lol!!! ;):D:D
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  • dg1979us
    dg1979us Posts: 568
    VictoryGin wrote:
    New England + New York! :)

    Although I have quite a soft spot for the PNW, but I got to go with where I'm at!

    I know your being humorous but its kind of funny on a thread about national pride not being a good thing, that people are putting their state or regional pride on display. New York City is more or less the financial capital of the world and the corporations it houses benefit as much or more than anyone, because of many of the various reasons decryed on this thread as a bad thing.
  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    dg1979us wrote:
    I know your being humorous but its kind of funny on a thread about national pride not being a good thing, that people are putting their state or regional pride on display. New York City is more or less the financial capital of the world and the corporations it houses benefit as much or more than anyone, because of many of the various reasons decryed on this thread as a bad thing.

    Well then it's funny all around, isn't it?

    But really, it's about breaking away--I think that's the key. And NY isn't just the financial capital, but also offers some really good cheese. God, I'm a sucker for cheese. Oh a nice NYS cheddar . . .

    And let's not forget the pizza, god I love white pie . . . and the bagels . . . and the franks and kraut . . . and the, oh man I'm hungry.

    :)
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  • dg1979us
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    VictoryGin wrote:
    Well then it's funny all around, isn't it?

    But really, it's about breaking away--I think that's the key. And NY isn't just the financial capital, but also offers some really good cheese. God, I'm a sucker for cheese. Oh a nice NYS cheddar . . .

    And let's not forget the pizza, god I love white pie . . . and the bagels . . . and the franks and kraut . . . and the, oh man I'm hungry.

    :)

    Well like I said, I know you were being funny so dont take it as picking on ya by any means, just found your post kind of funny within the context of the thread. But in saying that and with regards to the thread in general. I see nothing wrong with being proud of your country, state, city or whatever. Its not the pride that is hurtful, and putting away a flag is going to solve exactly zero problems world wide. What is hurtful is when you use your position in life to take advantage of those less fortunate. Its greed, not pride, that causes the problems Zinn is referring to. So I cant say I agree with Zinn on this and quite frankly think he is off base.
  • catefrances
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    A Surprise Left wrote:
    and lets not forget the lebanese vs aussie riots that occured quite recently.....LOL what a sad, sad day.....

    indeed it was. but typically a bunch of booze addled chest thumping idiot anglo australians defending 'their' turf. mistakes were made by both sides. but mostly the inaction of the police force was to blame for the situation getting out of hand. as well as the shock jock media bent on stirring up a hornet's nest all for ratings.

    A Surprise Left wrote:
    here down under we don't really get into national pride unless it happens to be following the wallabies or the socceroos. that only changes on ANZAC day....

    ....when we all get together and celebrate our greatest military defeat under the guise of national pride, mateship and self-sacrifice.
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  • SmallTown
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    VictoryGin wrote:
    And NY isn't just the financial capital, but also offers some really good cheese. God, I'm a sucker for cheese. Oh a nice NYS cheddar . . .

    :)

    Wave the flag of the Green Bay Packers, our new symbol of American pride. Sorry, any reference of cheese and I just can't help myself.
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