Child Molesters

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  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    neither.
    These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
  • Swan
    Swan Posts: 350
    kill them by humanely injecting them with enough morphine to put an elephant to sleep.
    I'm the only Hell Mama ever raised.
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    I don't to imagine it was my child. It happened to me. And I still think killing them is hypocritical, unjustified, and barbaric. I wasn't killed by it and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know anything about anything. I'm tired of this "what if it happened to you" stuff. Guess the fuck what. It did.

    Aww. Baby, I'm so sorry. You didn't deserve it.
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    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    I don't to imagine it was my child. It happened to me. And I still think killing them is hypocritical, unjustified, and barbaric. I wasn't killed by it and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know anything about anything. I'm tired of this "what if it happened to you" stuff. Guess the fuck what. It did.
    Can we have a round of applause for this please? If anyone has the right to say these people should die it is Vedderlution but it seems, thankfully, some people have some intelligence, humanity and the sense to know that the best way to sort out a problem isn't to kill it, it's to try to understand it and stop it happening. and to the person who called me a moron for trying to show some kind of humanity, how would you like to say the same thing to Vedderlution?
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,138
    sorry but I have no sympathy for those that prey on children
    sexual or otherwise

    kill em, nah thats too kind.

    public flogging, tar and feather, salt in the open wounds, rat cage on the head, that kind of stuff is more appropriate for child molesters
    that and exile to some island where they can all molest each other.

    EDIT: I dont care if its a disease, there are just as many studies saying it cant be rehabilitated or "cured"
    Screw with the kids you loose ALL your rights IMHO-and this is not adressed to the gray areas such as statutory rape
    Im talking about the Adult that abuses a younger child, not the 14 year old girl that got seduced by the 18 year old college student (thats another topic IMHO)
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Get_Right wrote:
    sorry but I have no sympathy for those that prey on children
    sexual or otherwise

    kill em, nah thats too kind.

    public flogging, tar and feather, salt in the open wounds, rat cage on the head, that kind of stuff is more appropriate for child molesters
    that and exile to some island where they can all molest each other.
    No one is saying sympathise. These people are sick and criminal. They have also been MADE that way. I refuse to believe that anyone is just born that way. What the people here who aren't hypocrites are saying is killing them is not the answer. Guess what America? Your states with the death penalty are also the one's with the highest crime. Not a deterrent. Certainly not one which you can wield like some bastion of moral superiority. Murder the perverts. Good fucking call.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • thebetterman
    thebetterman Posts: 657
    I dont think this type of thing can be treated or "cured". It just lies dormant like a volcano. They could go off any time.

    Then they get too old and weak to do anything horrible. But that doesn't mean they are "good people" afterwards.
    -one thing to remember, always have a good time, all the time
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Get_Right wrote:
    Im talking about the Adult that abuses a younger child, not the 14 year old girl that got seduced by the 18 year old college student (thats another topic IMHO)
    How do you define the grey area then? What do you do with the 18 year old who IS a paedophile who preys ONLY on 14 year old girls. Do you treat him the same as the 18 year old player who just doesn't give a shit for the law and sleeps with whoever he can get? How do you decide which is which? Paedophilia is a psychological problem, not a flouting of the law. To decide which is which, you would have to bring psychological assessment into it. Then you'd have to decide whether or not it is ethical in a "civilised" society to kill mentally ill people.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,138
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    No one is saying sympathise. These people are sick and criminal. They have also been MADE that way. I refuse to believe that anyone is just born that way. What the people here who aren't hypocrites are saying is killing them is not the answer. Guess what America? Your states with the death penalty are also the one's with the highest crime. Not a deterrent. Certainly not one which you can wield like some bastion of moral superiority. Murder the perverts. Good fucking call.

    I dont quite understand why you quoted me, or what your point is.

    That we shouldnt have a death penalty?
  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    Get_Right wrote:
    sorry but I have no sympathy for those that prey on children
    sexual or otherwise

    kill em, nah thats too kind.

    public flogging, tar and feather, salt in the open wounds, rat cage on the head, that kind of stuff is more appropriate for child molesters
    that and exile to some island where they can all molest each other.

    EDIT: I dont care if its a disease, there are just as many studies saying it cant be rehabilitated or "cured"
    Screw with the kids you loose ALL your rights IMHO-and this is not adressed to the gray areas such as statutory rape
    Im talking about the Adult that abuses a younger child, not the 14 year old girl that got seduced by the 18 year old college student (thats another topic IMHO)

    Please direct the round of applause here, thank you..
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    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • Swan
    Swan Posts: 350
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    How do you define the grey area then? What do you do with the 18 year old who IS a paedophile who preys ONLY on 14 year old girls. Do you treat him the same as the 18 year old player who just doesn't give a shit for the law and sleeps with whoever he can get? How do you decide which is which? Paedophilia is a psychological problem, not a flouting of the law. To decide which is which, you would have to bring psychological assessment into it. Then you'd have to decide whether or not it is ethical in a "civilised" society to kill mentally ill people.

    pedophiles don't target teenagers, unless they look like a 10 year old.
    I'm the only Hell Mama ever raised.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,138
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    How do you define the grey area then? What do you do with the 18 year old who IS a paedophile who preys ONLY on 14 year old girls. Do you treat him the same as the 18 year old player who just doesn't give a shit for the law and sleeps with whoever he can get? How do you decide which is which? Paedophilia is a psychological problem, not a flouting of the law. To decide which is which, you would have to bring psychological assessment into it. Then you'd have to decide whether or not it is ethical in a "civilised" society to kill mentally ill people.

    Not an easy task, which is why I wanted to steer clear of it-age old debate to which there are not a lot of clear answers.

    Im talking about the "to catch a predator" type. The 38 yr old that seeks out 14 year olds or even worse.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Get_Right wrote:
    I dont quite understand why you quoted me, or what your point is.

    That we shouldnt have a death penalty?
    I quoted you to say exactly what I did. That no one here is saying sympathise for these people's actions.

    The death penalty point was secondary but important. I like to think I can consider myself a normal, moral, ethically sound person, unlike a paedophile who abuses little kiddies. The moment I start advocating destroying those people, my halo begins to slip a little. Now do I make sense?

    There are other ways to punish people.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,138
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I quoted you to say exactly what I did. That no one here is saying sympathise for these people's actions.

    The death penalty point was secondary but important. I like to think I can consider myself a normal, moral, ethically sound person, unlike a paedophile who abuses little kiddies. The moment I start advocating destroying those people, my halo begins to slip a little. Now do I make sense?

    There are other ways to punish people.

    Well your altruistic intentions are noble, but I dont share them when it comes to child abusers.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Get_Right wrote:
    Well your altruistic intentions are noble, but I dont share them when it comes to child abusers.
    That's why this is a discussion board. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to disagree with you, and to voice my disagreement.

    The only time that I can understand killing a person is in the heat of the moment. A crime of passion. For all my altruism, if I walked in on a person molesting my child and I happened to have a weapon at hand? I might kill them. However, the calculated extermination of a person because they are psychologically fucked beyond belief does not sit well with me.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,941
    AmentsChick wrote:
    People that commit those acts generally have a really high chance of committing again. I don't think jail is the answer....because once they get out the urge is still there.

    I think Megans Law is a start...but more needs to be done. There is a talk radio dj here who reads off a list of molestors every Friday.

    not arguing against Megan's Law but who would you rather live next to - a molester or a murderer? (neither i'm sure but just making a case for an argument). I find it very curious that convicted sex offenders must tell where they live and lots of places are making laws against where they can live, yet these same towns have no laws regarding where drug dealers or murderers live. it's almost like they say drug them and kill them, just don't touch them inappropriately. doesn't anyone else find this to be strange?
  • prljmngrl
    prljmngrl Posts: 320
    edvedder913 wrote:
    and i am a HUGE advocate of megan's law - if a child molestor lives in my area i want to know. and believe i have the right. i do not believe they should be the one's protected - our children should come first.
    And what good is it doing you? We have three child predators in our neighborhood. We get the letter every school year. Yet it doesn't help us any. Because these morons get to live amongst us, our kids cannot play outside freely. They need to be taken out of society.
  • prljmngrl
    prljmngrl Posts: 320
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    No one is saying sympathise. These people are sick and criminal. They have also been MADE that way. I refuse to believe that anyone is just born that way. What the people here who aren't hypocrites are saying is killing them is not the answer. Guess what America? Your states with the death penalty are also the one's with the highest crime. Not a deterrent. Certainly not one which you can wield like some bastion of moral superiority. Murder the perverts. Good fucking call.
    It has nothing to do with being a deterrant. It has to do with cleaning the scum off the earth.
  • prljmngrl
    prljmngrl Posts: 320
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Then you'd have to decide whether or not it is ethical in a "civilised" society to kill mentally ill people.
    "Mental illness" is the buzzword this century. Far too many people use the lable to excuse their behaviors. There is a difference in being mentally ill and being just plain evil.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    prljmngrl wrote:
    "Mental illness" is the buzzword this century. Far too many people use the lable to excuse their behaviors. There is a difference in being mentally ill and being just plain evil.
    There's no point in arguing with you. I don't much enjoy hitting my head against brick walls.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"

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