Child Molesters

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,943
    prljmngrl wrote:
    And what good is it doing you? We have three child predators in our neighborhood. We get the letter every school year. Yet it doesn't help us any. Because these morons get to live amongst us, our kids cannot play outside freely. They need to be taken out of society.

    but would be ok if a drug dealer and/or murderer lived next door? i posted this same question above - isn't it a bit curious that they need to tell you when a child molster moves in but not a murderer. so if you murdered a child feel free to live next door?
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,138
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    That's why this is a discussion board. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to disagree with you, and to voice my disagreement.

    The only time that I can understand killing a person is in the heat of the moment. A crime of passion. For all my altruism, if I walked in on a person molesting my child and I happened to have a weapon at hand? I might kill them. However, the calculated extermination of a person because they are psychologically fucked beyond belief does not sit well with me.


    I agree with your first para, but I never said kill em so I dont quite understand why you chose my quotes as a base for your diatribes. Tis all.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Get_Right wrote:
    I agree with your first para, but I never said kill em so I dont quite understand why you chose my quotes as a base for your diatribes. Tis all.
    I was only quoting you for the first part of my post about the sympathising with paedophiles. The thing about the killing was directed at all the kill club in the thread, not at you. Sorry for any confusion.
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,138
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I was only quoting you for the first part of my post about the sympathising with paedophiles. The thing about the killing was directed at all the kill club in the thread, not at you. Sorry for any confusion.

    no worries.
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  • prljmngrl
    prljmngrl Posts: 320
    pjhawks wrote:
    but would be ok if a drug dealer and/or murderer lived next door? i posted this same question above - isn't it a bit curious that they need to tell you when a child molster moves in but not a murderer. so if you murdered a child feel free to live next door?
    I think it is all the same. None of them should be allowed to live amongst civilized people.
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    I am pretty much against the death penalty but I don't have a problem with locking up kiddie rapists up for the rest of their lives. Especially since for the most part this is the type of crime where there are a huge percentage of repeat offenders. No parole, no living in society but being on some useless registry.

    And if it is a disease like some people say (I am not so sure) lock them up and give them treatment. But as far as I know there is no cure which is totally a reason not to release them. I mean if a person has a deadly infectious disease like Ebola or something you remove them from society, it should be the same thing here.
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    tish wrote:
    Forgive or kill?
    Forgive but lock up forever.
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  • Zanne
    Zanne Posts: 899
    I'd be far more more forgiving of a murderer than a child molester. I don't know if I want anyone killed, though. Allowing these folks back out into society to do it again is not a great option either, in my humble opinion. I don't think the type of sickness a child molester suffers from can be "cured" and I see this leading to repeat offenses. Who knows, maybe to avoid getting caught next time, they would kill the children they molested? Either way, a molested child has already been handed down a life sentence. It's certainly a heavy psychological burden that they will carry with them their entire lives, no matter how well adjusted they become.
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  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    Fuckin' kill'em!!!
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    prljmngrl wrote:
    And what good is it doing you? We have three child predators in our neighborhood. We get the letter every school year. Yet it doesn't help us any. Because these morons get to live amongst us, our kids cannot play outside freely. They need to be taken out of society.

    How do you know that these three people are 'child predators'? Just because they've been classed as 'sex offenders' doesn't necessarily make them 'child predators'? Is a 17 year old who has had sex with a 15 year old a 'child predator'?
    Like I demonstrated above, there are dozens of countries where the age of consent ranges between 14 and 15. There's a difference between consensual sex and 'child molestation'.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    pjhawks wrote:
    not arguing against Megan's Law but who would you rather live next to - a molester or a murderer? (neither i'm sure but just making a case for an argument). I find it very curious that convicted sex offenders must tell where they live and lots of places are making laws against where they can live, yet these same towns have no laws regarding where drug dealers or murderers live. it's almost like they say drug them and kill them, just don't touch them inappropriately. doesn't anyone else find this to be strange?

    What I find curious is how quick people are to swallow whatever vague, and abitrary slogan the authorities happen to throw out. This just shows how easy it is for those in power to whip the public into a frenzy simply by distributing a phrase such as 'sex offender', which is ultimately so vague as to be almost meaningless.
    You equate all 'sex offenders' with murderers, as if they are a generic, easily categorizable entity like rapists or murderers - and is every case of rape or murder the same?? I read about the 17 year old in America who is currently serving a ten year sentence for having consensual oral sex with a 15 year old. Do you chest thumpers and jingoists class him as a 'child predator' simply beacuse the authorities have labelled him a 'sex offender'.
  • Well, let's see how you feel if it were your child.....then I bet YOU would feel much different on this issue...

    As for the Ghandi quote, well it would just make you feel better!!!


    no i wouldn't at all, im sure i wouldn't feel good about about it...obviously.

    doesn't mean you or I have the right to to say who lives or dies for what crimes or whatnot. Its that kind of mentality that starts wars and thats kind of mentality that killers have.
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  • prljmngrl
    prljmngrl Posts: 320
    Byrnzie wrote:
    How do you know that these three people are 'child predators'? Just because they've been classed as 'sex offenders' doesn't necessarily make them 'child predators'? Is a 17 year old who has had sex with a 15 year old a 'child predator'?
    Like I demonstrated above, there are dozens of countries where the age of consent ranges between 14 and 15. There's a difference between consensual sex and 'child molestation'.
    well where I live, they list their label along with a description of the crime they commited.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I find this interesting regarding consensual sex - as opposed to child molestation:

    'Although the Austrian age of consent is basically 14, it is illegal to have sex with someone under 16 by "exploiting their lack of maturity".

    In Brazil, authorities may not choose to prosecute if the younger partner is aged 14 to 17 and does not lodge a complaint.'
  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    don't think there is a good way to deal with them all, each situation is different.

    16 yr old sexing a 14yr old, same high school - kill, chem castrate, jail, label for life, other?

    true child predator - kill, chem castrate, jail, do we ever let them out?

    what about all the in between?

    it's a tough subject to deal with, even if you feel this is a sickness, I want blood...but what's right?
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  • Zanne
    Zanne Posts: 899
    Byrnzie wrote:
    What I find curious is how quick people are to swallow whatever vague, and abitrary slogan the authorities happen to throw out. This just shows how easy it is for those in power to whip the public into a frenzy simply by distributing a phrase such as 'sex offender', which is ultimately so vague as to be almost meaningless.
    You equate all 'sex offenders' with murderers, as if they are a generic, easily categorizable entity like rapists or murderers - and is every case of rape or murder the same?? I read about the 17 year old in America who is currently serving a ten year sentence for having consensual oral sex with a 15 year old. Do you chest thumpers and jingoists class him as a 'child predator' simply beacuse the authorities have labelled him a 'sex offender'.

    When I think of a child molester, I think of a full grown man (or woman) molesting a very young child.. Not a "statutory rapist" or a young couple in a consensual relationship. I agree with your argument about age of consent. When a boy is 19 or 20, it's very natural for him to like a 15 year old girl in a lot of cases, especially if the boy is immature. I think this age bracket is getting shafted under the blanket type rules that are in place to stop the real child molesters.

    To clarify, before someone bites off my head for this... I'm not eliminating the possibility that a girl could be the one in a relationship that could be considered the "statutory rapist", it's just more common for the older of the two in a relationship to be the male.
    Just me