please all americans

cincybearcat wrote:

How about I don't tell you who to vote for in Germany and Spain and you return the favor?

Aids will spread more???? WTF???

Ok Cincy...I know your a staunch republican (I remember your posts from 4 years ago)..enlighten us on why you feel McCain/Palin is the right choice???
You never really said WHY you thought Bush was right 4 years ago and we all know he was sooo horribly wrong, tho I doubt you or anyone else as staunch as you will ever admit it.

Secondly...most other countries elections don't affect other countries (some do...but not many)...whereas whomever is the president of the US...their actions have far reaching affects....look at that fucktard in your white house right now...which if memory serves YOU voted for...then go total up how much YOU'VE paid in fucking GAS in the last 8 years!!!!! What your taxes are like compared to 8 years ago, etc.
Are YOU any better off now for voting republican in the last election? are you any worse off??

I don't mean this to be an attack on you...and I'm sorry if its coming across as such...I just REALLY wanna know why after everything the republicans have done in the last 8 years...why you still think they are the right choice.

I also want to know from the other people in this thread who just said "no way" in response to the original post...why they are voting republican.
Please I need to know the good things (if any) about McCain...besides his experience.

jeffbr wrote:

I think it is fricking stupid to compromise principles. Stand for something.

It doesn't matter. I think at this point people need to put thier own and their country's well-being before their own principles. I voted Nader in 2000. After Four years of that shit, no way was I voting 3rd party again. After eight years of this neo-con disaster that has totally fucked the US both domestically and internationally, how can anyone really believe that 3rd party is the sensible way to vote? I'm not saying Obama is perfect or will really be such a massive change, but at this point we have to stop the bleeding and Obama in office is more likely to allow for that than McCain. Bottomline.

First off,Mccain was stauch supporter of the war in Iraq from the start.Obama was against it.Yes it is true that mccain was for the surge, and yes it may have to work to some degree.But it doesn't take away from the fact the occupation in Iraq was the biggest foreign policy blunder in our history.Obama throughout has been a vocal proponent in getting the job done in Afghanistan, and in my opinion he has been right with his judgement all along.
also our size of government has gotten bigger and bloated under the Bush Administration.I agree we need to make our governement more efficient and theres too much wasteful spending.So rewarding the party that put us in a 9 trillion dollar debt, by giving them 4 more years, makes no frickin sense.

you know the economy was just doing just fine under the Clinton administration.Obama is only proposing the repeal tax cuts for the rich, and put them at the same tax rate that they where at under the Clinton administration.The rich was doing just fine.I was hired at the factory i'm working at in 1996.We had over1,000 employees.Now we have 250 and just had another layoff.You may call Clinton/Obama economic policy socialism,i call it preserving our way of life.The Bush/Mccain economic policy of giving tax breaks for companies who take our jobs overseas,instead of getting tax cuts for companies who keep our jobs here makes no sense.
Also how do you propose to pay for more tax cuts if you don't think we should repeal the tax cuts for top 1%?Borrow more money from China?

woops i'm sorry digester, i misread your post.

MattyJoe wrote:

Believe me, no one is saying McCain/Palin is the best choice. They're just a hell of a lot better than Obama. Obama would majorly ruin our economy. Socialism may work in Europe where the countries have hardly any GDP and play almost no role in world politics, but not here in the United States. We need a strong economy. Without it, we'd be very vulnerable. China's not getting any smaller or less productive. Taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor and running corporations into the ground with high taxes does not help the economy. Of course, helping the poor is very important, but Obama's policies are not the answer.

You appear to sound as if what McCain/Pain are going to implement anything different than what we have had these last 8 years. It also appears what has been done these last 8 years has worked very well just take a look at our economy.

I never thought these two could be worse than Bush/Cheney and they clearly are.

Peace

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

It doesn't matter. I think at this point people need to put thier own and their country's well-being before their own principles. I voted Nader in 2000. After Four years of that shit, no way was I voting 3rd party again. After eight years of this neo-con disaster that has totally fucked the US both domestically and internationally, how can anyone really believe that 3rd party is the sensible way to vote? I'm not saying Obama is perfect or will really be such a massive change, but at this point we have to stop the bleeding and Obama in office is more likely to allow for that than McCain. Bottomline.

Thank you!

To note the 3rd party system needs further developing and support. It may work one day, it just isn't gonna work right now.

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

It doesn't matter. I think at this point people need to put thier own and their country's well-being before their own principles.

I think it would be impossible for me to disagree more strongly. So we'll just have to disagree.