please all americans

ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
do the right think in november and give your vote obama
not mccain ..first i was not sure but now mccain is so republic and
this palin come on women if you do not wanna loose the choice
don not vote mccain
see what she did in alasca!!!
and the program damn the rich gets richer again
and the poor no go
and aids will spread more with their program
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  • I find it frightening that the polls seem to have shifted towards this sexy Hockey MILF. Why would anyone want to vote for someone who once spent millions on trying to control Alaska's wolf popuation by shooting them from the air as opposed to putting money into their education system?
    Americans are being duped!
    "it feels like it's the end of the world and we all got a good seat. you know -- step right up, get your tickets...here we go."

    - EV
  • What if I don't want to vote for either? Both choices suck and I will take no part in it.
    When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
  • Obama is the right vote?

    hahaha

    McCain isn't either...

    but anyway thanks for the laugh...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Obama is the right vote?

    hahaha

    Yep he certainly is. Keep laughin though buddy. It will do us a lot of good come January.
    Obama/Biden '08!!!
  • I had no idea about McCain-Palin's stance on spreading AIDS. I had no idea they were for it.

    That changes everything!
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Yep he certainly is. Keep laughin though buddy. It will do us a lot of good come January.

    The lesser of the two evils is hardly the right vote.

    I will still be laughing when the Obama comedown syndrome hits his duped supporters like a load of bricks.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • The lesser of the two evils is hardly the right vote.

    I will still be laughing when the Obama comedown syndrome hits his duped supporters like a load of bricks.

    Judging by the polls, it kind of already has.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    do the right think in november and give your vote obama


    Not. A. Chance.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    VOLITION wrote:
    I find it frightening that the polls seem to have shifted towards this sexy Hockey MILF. Why would anyone want to vote for someone who once spent millions on trying to control Alaska's wolf popuation by shooting them from the air as opposed to putting money into their education system?
    Americans are being duped!

    It won't last, people will see through these of McCain/Pain.

    Peace
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    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • unsung wrote:
    Not. A. Chance.

    Thanks to ladygooddiva for trying ...

    I personally feel the whole thing is a mess. Obama may be overpromising, though at least he appears to have integrity.

    Why McCain picked Palin ... if McCain is elected in tow with Palin, I "pray" cuz I don't know where else to turn, that nothing happens to him as she is not ready nor capable of running a country.

    I was hoping that the Bush era would be as low as this country would fall. Well it just might not ... it may get worse and that's coming from an eternal optimist. In my estimation, she is gonna be one mighty fine "puppet", far worse than Bush.
    "i'm a dedicated insomniac" ~ ev nyc beacon 6/22
  • The Democrats are so inept that I cannot, in good conscience, vote for any of them. I want to vote for Obama, really I do, but they are bungling his campaign so badly that I'm afraid what he (and them) might do to the country.
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • long red wrote:
    The Democrats are so inept that I cannot, in good conscience, vote for any of them. I want to vote for Obama, really I do, but they are bungling his campaign so badly that I'm afraid what he (and them) might do to the country.

    I feel the same about the Repubs!

    Bungling a campaign vs out & out lies ... hmmmm?! It is tough that is for sure.
    "i'm a dedicated insomniac" ~ ev nyc beacon 6/22
  • I feel the same about the Repubs!

    Bungling a campaign vs out & out lies ... hmmmm?! It is tough that is for sure.

    it's like choosing between cold shit and warm shit.

    i'd prefer not to be given either.
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • long red wrote:
    The Democrats are so inept that I cannot, in good conscience, vote for any of them. I want to vote for Obama, really I do, but they are bungling his campaign so badly that I'm afraid what he (and them) might do to the country.

    Hey, running a campaign gives Obama exactly the executive experience he needs to run the executive branch of the government!
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • not a fan of obama but i do not want palin anywhere near the white house
    soooooo

    obama here i come
  • long red wrote:
    it's like choosing between cold shit and warm shit.

    i'd prefer not to be given either.

    I hear ya loud and clear my dear. So what are we all to do? Honestly. I don't want to vote for the lying Repubs (another four years of the lies the Bush adminstration has doled out ... no thanks!) and many don't want to vote for the inadequate Democrats ... based on what advertising, lack of truthful news ... the overall misuse of communication?!?!

    I'm frustrated to the nines ... actually to eleven! : )

    Thanks to all those who post links to actual facts, as it is hard to keep up with truth.

    I work in advertising and from this standpoint both parties thoroughly disgust me. Advertising isn't the most moral biz, though that is another thread on its own. When it comes to Political Advertising I wish there were some sort of "rules" or a set of "ethics" to abide by. For frick's sake it is advertising, which is meant to sell something and at times communicate issues, though the truth is it is propaganda to begin with!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progaganda

    I'm disgusted and far from just shaking it off ... is there anywhere, anything or anyone concerning politics that has integrity anymore?! I guess its the way things work. I learned about in college years ago and see it every election. Why should I be so shocked this time around! Just sick of it ... and that is the truth.
    "i'm a dedicated insomniac" ~ ev nyc beacon 6/22
  • Vote for people who want to really change the system from it's foundations according to the principles founded in the constitution, not just splash around in the status quo, or make it seem like they will afford real change when they speak, but then actually vote to the contrary (read: Barak Obama).

    Once people finally realize left and right is just an ongoing game being played out, a third party solution will quickly become reality. Strength in numbers.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Vote for people who want to really change the system from it's foundations according to the principles founded in the constitution, not just splash around in the status quo, or make it seem like they will afford real change when they speak, but then actually vote to the contrary (read: Barak Obama).

    Once people finally realize left and right is just an ongoing game being played out, a third party solution will quickly become reality. Strength in numbers.

    What you wrote makes sense. Very good sense, it is much easier said/written than done.
    "i'm a dedicated insomniac" ~ ev nyc beacon 6/22
  • What you wrote makes sense. Very good sense, it is much easier said/written than done.

    Well it starts with you. Find an independent candidate that you like (I've been a Nader supporter since I was old enough to vote in 2000) and support him/her. That simple.
    Using the word "methinks" in your message board posts doesn't make you look smart.
  • hailhail82 wrote:
    Well it starts with you. Find an independent candidate that you like (I've been a Nader supporter since I was old enough to vote in 2000) and support him/her. That simple.

    I get it, and have done that with dire consequences. Bush got elected. Sorry, it isn't that simple.
    "i'm a dedicated insomniac" ~ ev nyc beacon 6/22
  • do the right think in november and give your vote obama
    not mccain ..first i was not sure but now mccain is so republic and
    this palin come on women if you do not wanna loose the choice
    don not vote mccain
    see what she did in alasca!!!
    and the program damn the rich gets richer again
    and the poor no go
    and aids will spread more with their program

    NO!
    Oh he fills it up with the love of a girl...
  • yep

    I get it, and have done that with dire consequences. Bush got elected. Sorry, it isn't that simple.
  • About the Governor

    Governor Sarah Palin made history on Dec. 4, 2006, when she took office. As the 11th governor of Alaska, she is the first woman to hold the office.

    Since taking office, her top priorities have been resource development, education and workforce development, public health and safety, and transportation and infrastructure development.

    Under her leadership, Alaska invested $5 billion in state savings, overhauled education funding, and implemented the Senior Benefits Program that provides support for low-income older Alaskans. She created Alaska’s Petroleum Systems Integrity Office to provide oversight and maintenance of oil and gas equipment, facilities and infrastructure, and the Climate Change Subcabinet to prepare a climate change strategy for Alaska.

    During her first legislative session, Governor Palin’s administration passed two major pieces of legislation – an overhaul of the state’s ethics laws and a competitive process to construct a gas pipeline.

    Governor Palin is chair of the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission, a multi-state government agency that promotes the conservation and efficient recovery of domestic oil and natural gas resources while protecting health, safety and the environment. She was recently named chair of the National Governors Association (NGA) Natural Resources Committee, which is charged with pursuing legislation to ensure state needs are considered as federal policy is formulated in the areas of agriculture, energy, environmental protection and natural resource management. Prior to being named to this position, she served as co-chair of this committee.

    Prior to her election as governor, Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council and two terms as the mayor/manager of Wasilla. During her tenure, she reduced property tax levels while increasing services and made Wasilla a business friendly environment, drawing in new industry.

    She has served as chair of the Alaska Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska's most valuable non-renewable resources: oil and gas. She was elected by her peers to serve as president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors. In this role, she worked with local, state and federal officials to promote solutions to the needs of Alaska's communities.

    Sarah Heath Palin arrived in Alaska with her family in 1964, when her parents came to teach school in Skagway. She received a bachelor of science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho in 1987. Palin, who graduated from Wasilla High School in 1982, has lived in Skagway, Eagle River and Wasilla.

    She is married to Todd Palin, who is a lifelong Alaskan, a production operator on the North Slope and a four-time champion of the Iron Dog, the world's longest snowmachine race.

    Todd and Sarah fish in Bristol Bay with their children – Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig. Through Todd’s Yup'ik grandmother, Alaska’s Native heritage plays an important role in their family. Track enlisted in the U.S. Army on Sept. 11, 2007.

    Prior to taking office, Palin served on numerous boards and commissions throughout the state. She was active in her family’s pursuits – including serving as a sports team mom and school volunteer. She also runs marathons.

    Palin is a lifetime member of the NRA and enjoys hunting, fishing, Alaska history, and all that Alaska's great outdoors has to offer.
  • Before she was running against him, Sarah Palin—the governor of Alaska and now the Republican candidate for Vice-President of the United States—thought it was pretty neat that Barack Obama was edging ahead of John McCain in her usually solidly red state. After all, she said, Obama’s campaign was using the same sort of language that she had in her gubernatorial race. “The theme of our campaign was ‘new energy,’ ” she said recently. “It was no more status quo, no more politics as usual, it was all about change. So then to see that Obama—literally, part of his campaign uses those themes, even, new energy, change, all that, I think, O.K., well, we were a little bit ahead on that.” She also noted, “Something’s kind of changing here in Alaska, too, for being such a red state on the Presidential level. Obama’s doing just fine in polls up here, which is kind of wigging people out, because they’re saying, ‘This hasn’t happened for decades that in polls the D’ ”—the Democratic candidate—“ ‘is doing just fine.’ To me, that’s indicative, too. It’s the no-more-status-quo, it’s change.”
  • acutejamacutejam Posts: 1,433
    Roland makes good points and I would also urge people to vote for alternatives at the city/county/state and sure federal level. It's not too much of a reach out here in CA for me to toss a few votes to Libertarians and Green party members, they need the votes, WE need more alternatives.

    Many times have i gone down the ballot simply voting against all incumbents in many races, esp if there's an independent, green or libertarian candidate.

    As for Barack -- he is a series of trailer films, so exciting and inspiring in the small trailer format. But in 10 years, the main movie has never been made. There's no movie (no substance) behind these glimpses. He is truly all talk.

    His sum total experience is trying something, failing, and wondering if he could get it down if he just had a little more power -- community organizing didn't work, maybe he should be a lawyer; law/foundations and grants didn't work, maybe if he was just a state senator he could accomplish something; no go on the state level, maybe a federal senator would give him the levers he needs to pull. And his record as a U.S. senator? Yawn.

    And I'd just add, wow, a meteoric rise from one of the most corrupt political cesspools in america (chicago) with not one stance with spine... Hmmmm. But you got me with the spreading of AIDS -- you got me in the funny bone! Talk about scare tactics! Chicago politics doesn't come close to that!
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  • yep

    but
    unfortunately at the moment we do not have an alternative that will beat mccain

    soooo?


    acutejam wrote:
    Roland makes good points and I would also urge people to vote for alternatives at the city/county/state and sure federal level. It's not too much of a reach out here in CA for me to toss a few votes to Libertarians and Green party members, they need the votes, WE need more alternatives.

    Many times have i gone down the ballot simply voting against all incumbents in many races, esp if there's an independent, green or libertarian candidate.

    As for Barack -- he is a series of trailer films, so exciting and inspiring in the small trailer format. But in 10 years, the main movie has never been made. There's no movie (no substance) behind these glimpses. He is truly all talk.

    His sum total experience is trying something, failing, and wondering if he could get it down if he just had a little more power -- community organizing didn't work, maybe he should be a lawyer; law/foundations and grants didn't work, maybe if he was just a state senator he could accomplish something; no go on the state level, maybe a federal senator would give him the levers he needs to pull. And his record as a U.S. senator? Yawn.

    And I'd just add, wow, a meteoric rise from one of the most corrupt political cesspools in america (chicago) with not one stance with spine... Hmmmm. But you got me with the spreading of AIDS -- you got me in the funny bone! Talk about scare tactics! Chicago politics doesn't come close to that!
  • iamicaiamica Chicago Posts: 2,628
    After the last two elections, I don't have much faith in the American public to vote based on any issues besides homosexuality and abortion. Never mind that our country has a ton of issues far and beyond those two.
    So if McCain wins (and dies), Palin's in the White House and we'll be the laughingstock of the world. Sigh.
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  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    Obama is our best bet right now. Period.

    I have no problem with the idea of third party candidates, but voting for one is not going to get the ball rolling on getting rid of the two party system. If we ever have the rise of a third party, it will happen suddenly with a huge surge of support due to something big (i.e. how the Nazi party became popular in Germany), not a slow build because people don't like the two party system. It's been in place for far too long, and even though people don't like it, they are entrenched in it. And 2% of the popular vote going to a third party candidate won't change that. Sad, but true.

    I won't say that a vote for a third party is a wasted vote, because no vote is theoretically a wasted one... but I will say it's futile.
    It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win
  • iamica wrote:
    After the last two elections, I don't have much faith in the American public to vote based on any issues besides homosexuality and abortion. Never mind that our country has a ton of issues far and beyond those two.
    So if McCain wins (and dies), Palin's in the White House and we'll be the laughingstock of the world. Sigh.

    Once again I agree. Though the last two elections on the whole were hard to gauge, remember the 2000 florida voter fiasco. The same thing almost happened in 2004 but Kerry conceded. So, neither of these were truly "fair". Call it conspiracy theory. I call it bullshit and too close and underhanded for comfort. The truth will come out full on one day.

    I feel if McCain is elected we still will be the laughing stock of the world. We already have a horrible reputation thanks to puppet boy Bush.
    "i'm a dedicated insomniac" ~ ev nyc beacon 6/22
  • DOSW wrote:
    Obama is our best bet right now. Period.

    I have no problem with the idea of third party candidates, but voting for one is not going to get the ball rolling on getting rid of the two party system. If we ever have the rise of a third party, it will happen suddenly with a huge surge of support due to something big (i.e. how the Nazi party became popular in Germany), not a slow build because people don't like the two party system. It's been in place for far too long, and even though people don't like it, they are entrenched in it. And 2% of the popular vote going to a third party candidate won't change that. Sad, but true.

    I won't say that a vote for a third party is a wasted vote, because no vote is theoretically a wasted one... but I will say it's futile.

    Very well put. I couldn't agree more.

    How are these people expecting to change anything when their candidates will never get even close to 5% of the popular vote?

    Change has to occur from the bottom up IMO.
    Obama/Biden '08!!!
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