Hillary throwing dirt at Obama already

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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    Jeanwah wrote:
    HELLO-- news source? We need to see where you got this article. I can't believe that this thread is three pages long and no one questions the source of this garbage.

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=4072847&postcount=2

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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    MrBrian wrote:
    good points,

    But I wonder, if he were to win the nomination who his running mate would be. edwards? haha. as always the dems are putting out a bad field.

    I wouldn't mind an Obama/Biden ticket... Biden would help fill in the perceived Obama inexperience, especially on foreign relations. Two senators would be tough to elect though.

    I would much prefer an Obama/Richardson ticket, but there is no way this country is voting for a black guy AND a hispanic.
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  • desandrews
    desandrews Posts: 143
    Jeanwah wrote:
    HELLO-- news source? We need to see where you got this article. I can't believe that this thread is three pages long and no one questions the source of this garbage. Everyone seems to just want to jump in and bash Hillary now without knowing if this is even TRUE? Pretty sad.

    http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Obama_2.htm

    I've never heard of or been to this sight, but this article says what the original poster pasted. The site says it was Voted Hottest Conservative News Site By Rolling Stone Magazine. That ought to tell you something... well, no, it really doesn't.
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    desandrews wrote:
    http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Obama_2.htm

    I've never heard of or been to this sight, but this article says what the original poster pasted. The site says it was Voted Hottest Conservative News Site By Rolling Stone Magazine. That ought to tell you something... well, no, it really doesn't.
    Nope, not surprised at all!
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    desandrews wrote:
    http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Obama_2.htm

    I've never heard of or been to this sight, but this article says what the original poster pasted. The site says it was Voted Hottest Conservative News Site By Rolling Stone Magazine. That ought to tell you something... well, no, it really doesn't.

    Doesn't surprise me at all. The hard right is scared silly, i tell ya. They should be.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    cornnifer wrote:
    Doesn't surprise me at all. The hard right is scared silly, i tell ya. They should be.

    That is very true. Running someone against Barrack Obama is like running someone against JFK or RFK, he just connects with people and that's what appeals to people. Sometimes that is the type of leader we need. Issues do matter, but sometimes we just need a leader.
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  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    Is that like a politician living in Texas, and pretending to be a cowboy?
  • desandrews
    desandrews Posts: 143
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Doesn't surprise me at all. The hard right is scared silly, i tell ya. They should be.
    ledvedderman wrote:
    That is very true. Running someone against Barrack Obama is like running someone against JFK or RFK, he just connects with people and that's what appeals to people. Sometimes that is the type of leader we need. Issues do matter, but sometimes we just need a leader.

    Since when is Hillary a member of the hard right?
  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    For the most part, you're right. But there will be some voters who just won't vote for a woman, on principal. same with Obama. Have you noticed recently that Fox News refers to him as Barack Hussein Obama?


    yeah! and today I was reading Boston's favorite tabloid, the Herald, and came across an op-ed by Cal Thomas (one of the most soulless pricks out there) and he casually referred to him as "Sen. Barack Hussein Obama". completely gratuitous! there was no journalistic reason for it... just a *nudge nudge* to his readers.



    i definately think you're right about some people who won't vote for a woman, but i think that's probably counter-acted by those who would vote for her because she's a she.
  • ACCBootlegGoddess
    ACCBootlegGoddess Posts: 4,318
    MrBrian wrote:
    Yeah he is a christian (well that's what he's said), but I think since his roots have islam in them that'll for sure hurt him. for some it's equal to having relatives that were nazis.

    Or at least that's sometimes how they act.
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    I just don't like Obama because he's a democrat. eeeew


    This last sentence right there is why the goddamn repulicans get as many votes as they do. MrBrian, I'm not trying to say you are republican by any means...what I am saying is that you and many other Americans refuse to vote for who you think is the best cause you identify yourself as being a Republican or a Democrat or a Green supporter, etc rather than an AMERICAN PERIOD! If you believe a candidate is the best for the job, who gives a fuck what party they are!!! Stop this whole "but I'm a ...insert party here...." shit and just VOTE for the guy! Don't vote for the head of your party by default, then bitch and moan about the poor choices he made later. Stand up and USE your power as a voter wisely!


    That said...the muslim in his background, and his colour will hurt Obama greatly in a presidential election as you know the Republican fear machine will be at an all time high, and I'm sorry to my American Jammers here, but most of you Americans are too stupid to see though it. (yes there are some of who who are smart enough, but not enough of u), plus the south has a lot of electoral votes and are known to be more on the racist side. (again not all of you...but enough to swing the vote).
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    ACCBootlegGoddess wrote:
    This last sentence right there is why the goddamn repulicans get as many votes as they do. MrBrian, I'm not trying to say you are republican by any means...what I am saying is that you and many other Americans refuse to vote for who you think is the best cause you identify yourself as being a Republican or a Democrat or a Green supporter, etc rather than an AMERICAN PERIOD! If you believe a candidate is the best for the job, who gives a fuck what party they are!!! Stop this whole "but I'm a ...insert party here...." shit and just VOTE for the guy! Don't vote for the head of your party by default, then bitch and moan about the poor choices he made later. Stand up and USE your power as a voter wisely!


    That said...the muslim in his background, and his colour will hurt Obama greatly in a presidential election as you know the Republican fear machine will be at an all time high, and I'm sorry to my American Jammers here, but most of you Americans are too stupid to see though it. (yes there are some of who who are smart enough, but not enough of u), plus the south has a lot of electoral votes and are known to be more on the racist side. (again not all of you...but enough to swing the vote).

    Most people here on AMT want some palpable change for the better. Obama is centrist at best. He is more of the same. I get the feeling that there's a large population out there, dimmed in the brain by the glare of years-on media and cultural manipulation that see Obama as a shake-up to the system because he is black, and, to me, that seems like a failure of our system in general.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    enharmonic wrote:
    If Clinton takes this path, I will not be able to vote for her under any circumstances. It is hypocrisy of the highest order.

    Besides, if Obama has kept his religious background private, that is his right. The concept of separation of church and state, as well as freedom of religion apply.

    This will really turn me against Hillary, or any other Democrat that considers this a valid path for criticism.

    All politicians are hypocrites. It surprises me that you didn't know this already.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    yeah! and today I was reading Boston's favorite tabloid, the Herald, and came across an op-ed by Cal Thomas (one of the most soulless pricks out there) and he casually referred to him as "Sen. Barack Hussein Obama". completely gratuitous! there was no journalistic reason for it... just a *nudge nudge* to his readers.



    i definately think you're right about some people who won't vote for a woman, but i think that's probably counter-acted by those who would vote for her because she's a she.

    You liberals call the president an asshole (and that is the nice things you say). But when a conservative calls a guy by his real name, that is soulless. Isn't it an editorial? Can't they write what they want? I guess not.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    ledvedderman wrote:
    That is very true. Running someone against Barrack Obama is like running someone against JFK or RFK, he just connects with people and that's what appeals to people. Sometimes that is the type of leader we need. Issues do matter, but sometimes we just need a leader.

    Maybe we just need someone to pass out some dope so we all just "feel" good.
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Hillary Clinton is a racist whore.
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    sponger wrote:
    You learn something new everyday I guess.
    No Christianity isn't oppresive at all. Except for the fact that my very own grandparents worry that my siblings and parents are "going to hell" because we don't go to church. Not oppresive at all. No pressure to join! :rolleyes:

    If you don't think Christianity can be oppresive, go to Jesus camp.
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    No Christianity isn't oppresive at all. Except for the fact that my very own grandparents worry that my siblings and parents are "going to hell" because we don't go to church. Not oppresive at all. No pressure to join! :rolleyes:

    If you don't think Christianity can be oppresive, go to Jesus camp.

    Yeah, because fucking Jesus Camp is a fair and accurate representational cross-section of Christians and Christianity.
    i award you a well deserved "sheesh".
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    cornnifer wrote:
    Yeah, because fucking Jesus Camp is a fair and accurate representational cross-section of Christians and Christianity.
    i award you a well deserved "sheesh".

    He said "can" be oppressive.
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    cornnifer wrote:
    Yeah, because fucking Jesus Camp is a fair and accurate representational cross-section of Christians and Christianity.
    i award you a well deserved "sheesh".
    Didn't say is. Said "can"... sheesh.
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Collin wrote:
    He said "can" be oppressive.

    In that case, Collin, people on this board "can" be really fuckin stupid. If you don't believe me look at the guys post.


    I said "can" be.
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