The Reason behind "Borat"

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  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    sponger wrote:
    That movie is directed at americans. It's designed to set us apart as being intolerant and naive. The reality of the situation is that he could walk into any "tolerant" and "liberal" country and say the same shit and get the same reactions.


    It may be directed at americans, but I think it's shitty that it happens in other places too
  • catefrances
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    sponger wrote:
    fucken eh. I don't care what culture does it; nobody kisses me on the cheek. It's sort of a double standard to expect that I obey his culture when he is not obeying my culture. When americans visit the middle east they abide by arab customs. When cheek-kissing dudes come to america, they should do the same. What all you sissy europeans keep forgetting is that Hitler bent all of you over and took your fucken manhood. Your ultra-liberal lifestyles let that happen. It's easy to talk shit about our intolerance when deep down you know that the US will bail your assess out when the next ruthless dictator comes along.

    FUck all of you european liberal motherfuckers. Fuck all of you to hell. Pick up a gun and learn how to fight a fucken war for once. Our guys are are getting blown to pieces because you stupid shitheads like it in the ass.

    jeez sponger what crawled up your butt and died? :D

    cheek kissing isn't part of my uptight anglo 'culture' either, but if someone is introduced to me that has that as part of theirs then i'm cool with it. i accept them for it. i certainly don't freak out and start abusing them for 'bending over and allowing hilter to f%&@ them up the ***.'


    and let's not forget he was king of the lemurs. ;):p:D
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  • luxpjamer
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    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    It may be directed at americans, but I think it's shitty that it happens in other places too
    I think in some other countries or regions the reactions would have been the same. I also fund the reactions of the other people awful like the car seller, the cowboy, the rodeo-spectators and the students, they really sucked. I think that the movie would have been much better if there were more such reaction scenes. And if this naked fighting stuff ( this sitting on the face) would not have been that long. But one question: Was the scene with Pam Anderson an hidden camera scene or did she knew what happen to her?
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  • Scratchin a Letter
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    MrBrian wrote:
    I think cohen (the actor playing borat) developed this chracter to prove that people hate jews,

    Like he's trying to prove a point. anyone else think so?
    Not only that.

    To expose as much racism, sexism, bigotry and disillusion as he were able to find. True, the people of the deep South are easy targets, but they knew they were being filmed. Whatever the twats in the film get is exactly what they deserve. The drunken frat boy scenario never fails to make me laugh.
  • MrBrian
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    Scratchin a Letter wrote:
    Not only that.

    To expose as much racism, sexism, bigotry and disillusion as he were able to find. True, the people of the deep South are easy targets, but they knew they were being filmed. Whatever the twats in the film get is exactly what they deserve. The drunken frat boy scenario never fails to make me laugh.

    yes that's very true.

    It's also funny how some of these people turn around and then sue the film makers after they see how stupid they come off on screen saying those things.

    except those village people who the news reports say that they were paid a very small fee for being in the film, like a few dollars and hr I think it was.
  • MrBrian
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=415871&in_page_id=1770

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061121/ap_en_mo/film_borat_lawsuit_4
  • Songburst
    Songburst Posts: 1,195
    sponger wrote:
    That movie is directed at americans. It's designed to set us apart as being intolerant and naive. The reality of the situation is that he could walk into any "tolerant" and "liberal" country and say the same shit and get the same reactions.

    It's only directed at Americans because Americans were the intended audience. I think that the intent of the movie was to show that despite being a progressive nation, there are still people in America who think like the Borat character. It's not a shock to most people, but it is to some. The movie is way more insulting to eastern European culture than it is to Americans. However, it is brilliant and funny.
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  • Jammin909
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    MrBrian wrote:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=415871&in_page_id=1770

    This article is the worst "oh, poor me" article I have ever read. The mayor of the town says they were exploited as he probably drove away in his new VW or BMW. Romania has enough money, it just goes into all the govt officials pockets. Go after them if justice is to be served. It no ones fault that the town is so poor except for the Romanians.

    Another reason why I think this film is hilarious as it exposes so many underlying issues...
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  • Scratchin a Letter
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    MrBrian wrote:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=415871&in_page_id=1770

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061121/ap_en_mo/film_borat_lawsuit_4
    The quote from the mayor was the best thing I've read in ages.

    "They got paid, so I'm sure they'll be alright"

    Priceless
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    MrBrian wrote:
    I think cohen (the actor playing borat) developed this chracter to prove that people hate jews,

    Like he's trying to prove a point. anyone else think so?



    I thought it was to prove how silly racial hatred really is and the depths that people take it to in their minds.
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  • Pacomc79
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    Scratchin a Letter wrote:
    Not only that.

    To expose as much racism, sexism, bigotry and disillusion as he were able to find. True, the people of the deep South are easy targets, but they knew they were being filmed. Whatever the twats in the film get is exactly what they deserve. The drunken frat boy scenario never fails to make me laugh.


    I love that in this summation you actually are showing your own bigotry towards people of a geographic area simply because of where they live....nice job. :D
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  • gabers
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    sponger wrote:
    That movie is directed at americans. It's designed to set us apart as being intolerant and naive. The reality of the situation is that he could walk into any "tolerant" and "liberal" country and say the same shit and get the same reactions.

    This is true. But we're easy targets. Especially frat boys and rednecks.
  • Scratchin a Letter
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    Pacomc79 wrote:
    I love that in this summation you actually are showing your own bigotry towards people of a geographic area simply because of where they live....nice job. :D
    My own bigotry? Nothing I've said (that I know of) is bigoted. I was simply pointing out an observation.

    And besides, these people haven't exactly done anything to redeem themselves have they?

    And I don't think Dino is going to say anything on their behalf, so...
  • nfanel
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    Scratchin a Letter wrote:
    Not only that.

    To expose as much racism, sexism, bigotry and disillusion as he were able to find. True, the people of the deep South are easy targets, but they knew they were being filmed. Whatever the twats in the film get is exactly what they deserve. The drunken frat boy scenario never fails to make me laugh.


    he said in his rolling stone interview they focused on the south because there weren't as many cable subscribers that were likely to have seen borat on the ali g show. the gig is up once people know who 'borat' is.
  • Scratchin a Letter
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    nfanel wrote:
    he said in his rolling stone interview they focused on the south because there weren't as many cable subscribers that were likely to have seen borat on the ali g show. the gig is up once people know who 'borat' is.
    That's the sad part. Baron-Cohen took himself to the States because everyone in England knew he wasn't real and that he was taking the piss. By encompassing on Borat, and by releasing it in the US, eventually the game will be up. Unless of course, he moves to, say, New Zealand perhaps? (No offense to Kiwi's intended, the film may have got a big press there too...)
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Scratchin a Letter wrote:
    My own bigotry? Nothing I've said (that I know of) is bigoted. I was simply pointing out an observation.

    And besides, these people haven't exactly done anything to redeem themselves have they?

    And I don't think Dino is going to say anything on their behalf, so...


    It was simply funny to me that the "deep south" is broadly painted as racist when there is more racial diversity here than in most of the rest of the country. 3 white fraternity kids from Columbia, SC may represent a small group of people but it's no different than anywhere else you go in the country. You find those same views everywhere it's simply that in places like Penn State or Minnesota you see maybe 3 people of a different race.

    People who aren't racist wouldn't be funny so even though the vast majority of people in the region may not at all feel like their race is superior to another 3 drunken fools from a hick town driving across the country in an RV suddenly represent an entire region....

    Obviously they sued for money and that makes them even more pathetic.
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  • VictoryGin
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    Pacomc79 wrote:
    It was simply funny to me that the "deep south" is broadly painted as racist when there is more racial diversity here than in most of the rest of the country. 3 white fraternity kids from Columbia, SC may represent a small group of people but it's no different than anywhere else you go in the country. You find those same views everywhere it's simply that in places like Penn State or Minnesota you see maybe 3 people of a different race.

    People who aren't racist wouldn't be funny so even though the vast majority of people in the region may not at all feel like their race is superior to another 3 drunken fools from a hick town driving across the country in an RV suddenly represent an entire region....

    Obviously they sued for money and that makes them even more pathetic.

    just because there may be black people in the deep south, and that there is some racial diversity, doesn't mean that there aren't many racist people there. i think people thinking that there are racism issues in the deep south just doesn't come from these three college kids, but from the recent history of the deep south and who the deep south votes into office. i think the three college kids just put another ugly face to it.
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  • macgyver06
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    MrBrian wrote:
    I think cohen (the actor playing borat) developed this chracter to prove that people hate jews,

    Like he's trying to prove a point. anyone else think so?

    lol its satire...its to show you that still some people believe that life outside of the United States is crazy and ridiculous. There is no Borat.
  • Scratchin a Letter
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    macgyver06 wrote:
    There is no Borat.
    :eek: You're joking?
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    I once met a group of racists from New Jersey. Those damn northeasterners hate black people. And they have funny accents.

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