To expose as much racism, sexism, bigotry and disillusion as he were able to find. True, the people of the deep South are easy targets, but they knew they were being filmed. Whatever the twats in the film get is exactly what they deserve. The drunken frat boy scenario never fails to make me laugh.
I love that in this summation you actually are showing your own bigotry towards people of a geographic area simply because of where they live....nice job.
My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
That movie is directed at americans. It's designed to set us apart as being intolerant and naive. The reality of the situation is that he could walk into any "tolerant" and "liberal" country and say the same shit and get the same reactions.
This is true. But we're easy targets. Especially frat boys and rednecks.
I love that in this summation you actually are showing your own bigotry towards people of a geographic area simply because of where they live....nice job.
My own bigotry? Nothing I've said (that I know of) is bigoted. I was simply pointing out an observation.
And besides, these people haven't exactly done anything to redeem themselves have they?
And I don't think Dino is going to say anything on their behalf, so...
To expose as much racism, sexism, bigotry and disillusion as he were able to find. True, the people of the deep South are easy targets, but they knew they were being filmed. Whatever the twats in the film get is exactly what they deserve. The drunken frat boy scenario never fails to make me laugh.
he said in his rolling stone interview they focused on the south because there weren't as many cable subscribers that were likely to have seen borat on the ali g show. the gig is up once people know who 'borat' is.
he said in his rolling stone interview they focused on the south because there weren't as many cable subscribers that were likely to have seen borat on the ali g show. the gig is up once people know who 'borat' is.
That's the sad part. Baron-Cohen took himself to the States because everyone in England knew he wasn't real and that he was taking the piss. By encompassing on Borat, and by releasing it in the US, eventually the game will be up. Unless of course, he moves to, say, New Zealand perhaps? (No offense to Kiwi's intended, the film may have got a big press there too...)
My own bigotry? Nothing I've said (that I know of) is bigoted. I was simply pointing out an observation.
And besides, these people haven't exactly done anything to redeem themselves have they?
And I don't think Dino is going to say anything on their behalf, so...
It was simply funny to me that the "deep south" is broadly painted as racist when there is more racial diversity here than in most of the rest of the country. 3 white fraternity kids from Columbia, SC may represent a small group of people but it's no different than anywhere else you go in the country. You find those same views everywhere it's simply that in places like Penn State or Minnesota you see maybe 3 people of a different race.
People who aren't racist wouldn't be funny so even though the vast majority of people in the region may not at all feel like their race is superior to another 3 drunken fools from a hick town driving across the country in an RV suddenly represent an entire region....
Obviously they sued for money and that makes them even more pathetic.
My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
It was simply funny to me that the "deep south" is broadly painted as racist when there is more racial diversity here than in most of the rest of the country. 3 white fraternity kids from Columbia, SC may represent a small group of people but it's no different than anywhere else you go in the country. You find those same views everywhere it's simply that in places like Penn State or Minnesota you see maybe 3 people of a different race.
People who aren't racist wouldn't be funny so even though the vast majority of people in the region may not at all feel like their race is superior to another 3 drunken fools from a hick town driving across the country in an RV suddenly represent an entire region....
Obviously they sued for money and that makes them even more pathetic.
just because there may be black people in the deep south, and that there is some racial diversity, doesn't mean that there aren't many racist people there. i think people thinking that there are racism issues in the deep south just doesn't come from these three college kids, but from the recent history of the deep south and who the deep south votes into office. i think the three college kids just put another ugly face to it.
if you wanna be a friend of mine
cross the river to the eastside
I once met a group of racists from New Jersey. Those damn northeasterners hate black people. And they have funny accents.
There's also a well known racist in England, his name's Nick Griffin. There was also some Austrian guy who was known to be a bit of a racist. Adolf something. Man, that guy hated anything that wasn't a certain shade of white!
This is starting to drift from the main topic a bit but I have an observation to make. I've lived in different parts of the U.S. and have talked to people from damn near just about every state. I think racism is slightly more prevalent in the south, it's just that southern men are more apt to talk about it and less ashamed than the rest of the country. There are plenty of racists in California, Vermont, and Massachussetts, too.
This is starting to drift from the main topic a bit but I have an observation to make. I've lived in different parts of the U.S. and have talked to people from damn near just about every state. I think racism is slightly more prevalent in the south, it's just that southern men are more apt to talk about it and less ashamed than the rest of the country. There are plenty of racists in California, Vermont, and Massachussetts, too.
I've also noticed that people from the northeast and California tend to attribute racist qualities (along with a lack of intelligence) to someone based on an accent.
There's also a well known racist in England, his name's Nick Griffin. There was also some Austrian guy who was known to be a bit of a racist. Adolf something. Man, that guy hated anything that wasn't a certain shade of white!
Damn, you mean the English and the Austrians are racist too?
just because there may be black people in the deep south, and that there is some racial diversity, doesn't mean that there aren't many racist people there. i think people thinking that there are racism issues in the deep south just doesn't come from these three college kids, but from the recent history of the deep south and who the deep south votes into office. i think the three college kids just put another ugly face to it.
My point is in confining it it to a region. This is a problem with every facit of the country. The vast majority of peoples are culturalist rather than racist and simply don't like or can't relate to a particular culture rather than actually believe thier "race" is superior although there is that too I don't deny it I simply feel the majority of issues lie in perceptions and communication more than anything else. Most people regardless of region; race; creed; color; what have you are generally nice folks when you treat them with respect.
The reality is we are not at a point anywhere in this country where we can say race is not an issue and that's really kind of sad.
My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
My point is in confining it it to a region, this is a problem with every facit of the country. The vast majority of peoples are culturalist rather than racist and simply don't like or can't relate to a particular culture rather than actually believe thier "race" is superior although there is that too I don't deny it I simply feel the majority of issues lie in perceptions and communication more than anything else. Most people regardless of region; race; creed; color; what have you are generally nice folks when you treat them with respect.
i wasn't confining it to one region, and i don't think anyone else was. there seems to be a different shade of it for different regions.
if you wanna be a friend of mine
cross the river to the eastside
I've often wondered. Does pointing out that racism exists everywhere prove that racism doesn't exist?
not at all. Of course racism exists, I just think it's often confused for cultural relativism.
I just get annoyed that my entire region is so often painted as horrid by the rest of the country.
We don't get issued hoods when we are born and that's the way it feels.
The comical thing about this movie is just that.....why the hell does it matter what ethnic background you come from....Jews aren't monsters.... Black People don't eat your children etc. You aren't going to get raped or assulted simply for walking or driving through a neighborhood. Religious Wackos are Wackos whether they are muslims or christians or what have you. It preys on the silly fears people have of other cultures, and that's the brilliance of this movie I think.
My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
not at all. Of course racism exists, I just think it's often confused for cultural relativism.
I just get annoyed that my entire region is so often painted as horrid by the rest of the country.
We don't get issued hoods when we are born and that's the way it feels.
The comical thing about this movie is just that.....why the hell does it matter what ethnic background you come from....Jews aren't monsters.... Black People don't eat your children etc. You aren't going to get raped or assulted simply for walking or driving through a neighborhood. Religious Wackos are Wackos whether they are muslims or christians or what have you. It preys on the silly fears people have of other cultures, and that's the brilliance of this movie I think.
Political correctness doesn't allow for any form of racial comment, no matter how benign, but it does allow for classification of everyone with a certain accent, as long as it is associated with white Americans from a certain region of the country, as ignorant rednecks.
I've often wondered. Does pointing out that racism exists everywhere prove that racism doesn't exist?
It doesn't prove that racism doesn't exist but the posts that brought those comments on prove that there is another prejudice on this board that is pretty similar to racial stereotyping.
not at all. Of course racism exists, I just think it's often confused for cultural relativism.
I just get annoyed that my entire region is so often painted as horrid by the rest of the country.
We don't get issued hoods when we are born and that's the way it feels.
As someone who's lived in both the "North" and the "South," I will say that at least outside of urban centers, racism is more out in the open in the South. However, the North's version of racism - quiet racism - isn't any more laudable.
It doesn't prove that racism doesn't exist but the posts that brought those comments on prove that there is another prejudice on this board that is pretty similar to racial stereotyping.
As someone who's lived in both the "North" and the "South," I will say that at least outside of urban centers, racism is more out in the open in the South. However, the North's version of racism - quiet racism - isn't any more laudable.
I went to a school in California that prided itself on being open minded and liberal. During orientation, we were told that they were a diverse campus. We were then informed that people can only understand people of their own race and that should be their group of friends to help promote diversity. To me, this idea was effectively trying to keep the races separate.
Not that the south is more racist, just that they are more open about it, unlike say some of the more northern states when they'll just hide it.
But all in all, america is pretty racist, as far as it's people go, sure most of the time everything seems like it's working and people are getting along, then during say a fight between two people of different races, then you hear the real racism jump out.
Not that the south is more racist, just that they are more open about it, unlike say some of the more northern states when they'll just hide it.
But all in all, america is pretty racist, as far as it's people go, sure most of the time everything seems like it's working and people are getting along, then during say a fight between two people of different races, then you hear the real racism jump out.
It is a pretty strange combination in this country with a combination of racism and oversensitivity.
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I love that in this summation you actually are showing your own bigotry towards people of a geographic area simply because of where they live....nice job.
This is true. But we're easy targets. Especially frat boys and rednecks.
And besides, these people haven't exactly done anything to redeem themselves have they?
And I don't think Dino is going to say anything on their behalf, so...
he said in his rolling stone interview they focused on the south because there weren't as many cable subscribers that were likely to have seen borat on the ali g show. the gig is up once people know who 'borat' is.
It was simply funny to me that the "deep south" is broadly painted as racist when there is more racial diversity here than in most of the rest of the country. 3 white fraternity kids from Columbia, SC may represent a small group of people but it's no different than anywhere else you go in the country. You find those same views everywhere it's simply that in places like Penn State or Minnesota you see maybe 3 people of a different race.
People who aren't racist wouldn't be funny so even though the vast majority of people in the region may not at all feel like their race is superior to another 3 drunken fools from a hick town driving across the country in an RV suddenly represent an entire region....
Obviously they sued for money and that makes them even more pathetic.
just because there may be black people in the deep south, and that there is some racial diversity, doesn't mean that there aren't many racist people there. i think people thinking that there are racism issues in the deep south just doesn't come from these three college kids, but from the recent history of the deep south and who the deep south votes into office. i think the three college kids just put another ugly face to it.
cross the river to the eastside
lol its satire...its to show you that still some people believe that life outside of the United States is crazy and ridiculous. There is no Borat.
I've also noticed that people from the northeast and California tend to attribute racist qualities (along with a lack of intelligence) to someone based on an accent.
Damn, you mean the English and the Austrians are racist too?
i must have missed the post that claimed no one from the northeast was racist.
cross the river to the eastside
My point is in confining it it to a region. This is a problem with every facit of the country. The vast majority of peoples are culturalist rather than racist and simply don't like or can't relate to a particular culture rather than actually believe thier "race" is superior although there is that too I don't deny it I simply feel the majority of issues lie in perceptions and communication more than anything else. Most people regardless of region; race; creed; color; what have you are generally nice folks when you treat them with respect.
The reality is we are not at a point anywhere in this country where we can say race is not an issue and that's really kind of sad.
i wasn't confining it to one region, and i don't think anyone else was. there seems to be a different shade of it for different regions.
cross the river to the eastside
this thanksgiving i will be giving thanks for raindog's posts.
cross the river to the eastside
not at all. Of course racism exists, I just think it's often confused for cultural relativism.
I just get annoyed that my entire region is so often painted as horrid by the rest of the country.
We don't get issued hoods when we are born and that's the way it feels.
The comical thing about this movie is just that.....why the hell does it matter what ethnic background you come from....Jews aren't monsters.... Black People don't eat your children etc. You aren't going to get raped or assulted simply for walking or driving through a neighborhood. Religious Wackos are Wackos whether they are muslims or christians or what have you. It preys on the silly fears people have of other cultures, and that's the brilliance of this movie I think.
NYC train aren't that bad, at least that's my opinion.
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i just hope i can understand it.
cross the river to the eastside
Political correctness doesn't allow for any form of racial comment, no matter how benign, but it does allow for classification of everyone with a certain accent, as long as it is associated with white Americans from a certain region of the country, as ignorant rednecks.
It doesn't prove that racism doesn't exist but the posts that brought those comments on prove that there is another prejudice on this board that is pretty similar to racial stereotyping.
I went to a school in California that prided itself on being open minded and liberal. During orientation, we were told that they were a diverse campus. We were then informed that people can only understand people of their own race and that should be their group of friends to help promote diversity. To me, this idea was effectively trying to keep the races separate.
But all in all, america is pretty racist, as far as it's people go, sure most of the time everything seems like it's working and people are getting along, then during say a fight between two people of different races, then you hear the real racism jump out.
It is a pretty strange combination in this country with a combination of racism and oversensitivity.