The Reason behind "Borat"

MrBrian

I think cohen (the actor playing borat) developed this chracter to prove that people hate jews,

Like he's trying to prove a point. anyone else think so?

jlew24asu

is he jewish?

I didnt care for the movie

VictoryGin

MrBrian wrote:

I think cohen (the actor playing borat) developed this chracter to prove that people hate jews,

Like he's trying to prove a point. anyone else think so?

Would you say it's a profound point?

i couldn't help it.

Uncle Leo

MrBrian wrote:

I think cohen (the actor playing borat) developed this chracter to prove that people hate jews,

Like he's trying to prove a point. anyone else think so?

I have not seen the movie. But I suspect he also wanted to make money.

Milhouse VanHouten

jlew24asu wrote:

is he jewish?

I didnt care for the movie

Sacha Baron Cohen is a British Jew. I believe he wrote his thesis at Cambridge on the role of Jews in the American Civil Rights Movement, specifically the Jewish civil rights activists who were murdered in Mississippi. Mississippi Burning was based on the incident. Wiki him for the info, I think there are links in the article's sources.

Milhouse VanHouten

VictoryGin wrote:

Would you say it's a profound point?

i couldn't help it.

That point was profound like a motherfucker.

Uncle Leo

Milhouse VanHouten wrote:

That point was profound like a motherfucker.

Cracka please!

VictoryGin

Milhouse VanHouten wrote:

That point was profound like a motherfucker.

finally! i have discovered the profound point!

Milhouse VanHouten

VictoryGin wrote:

finally! i have discovered the profound point!

if you say the word "profound" to yourself over and over long enough, it loses all meaning. much like the original poster's point, i guess.

Vedderlution_Baby

I can't really say what his point was but there were a couple of scenes that pissed me off in that movie


Let me clarify. There were a couple of reactions by people that pissed me off.

MrBrian

jlew24asu wrote:

is he jewish?

I didnt care for the movie

well he was speaking hebrew the entire movie.

Ledbetterman10

MrBrian wrote:

I think cohen (the actor playing borat) developed this chracter to prove that people hate jews,

Like he's trying to prove a point. anyone else think so?

there's no reason to this movie other than to make you laugh.

MrBrian

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

there's no reason to this movie other than to make you laugh.

I just don't think that's the case,

mumi

Hey, they are making a big fuzz over here about that movie...
I'm realizing that you have NO idea how the world see your country, do you?

Vedderlution_Baby

I dont know who uspet me more.

The cowboy who wanted to hang homosexuals REALLY pissed me off. I couldnt believe that shit. (Figure of speech, I could believe it)

The frat boys...man...dont even get me started on thos assholes


But another part of the movie had me thinking a lot. The subway train scene. The way the one guy reacted when Borat tried to introduce himself was a disgusting display of machismo. He actually threatened violence on someone who introduced himself, and tried to shake his hand while giving him a quick kiss on the cheek...something that is done throughout various cultures. Good lord man, chill the fuck out.

MrBrian

icarus wrote:

and to get back on topic, the guy who plays borat has stated that his intention was to show how people can be anti-semitic and racist when their guard is let down, .

exactly!

My point proven.

sponger

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

He actually threatened violence on someone who introduced himself, and tried to shake his hand while giving him a quick kiss on the cheek...something that is done throughout various cultures.

So, if I were to take a trip to Europe and start trying to kiss people on the cheek, I would not get my lights punched out?

Gary Carter

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

But another part of the movie had me thinking a lot. The subway train scene. The way the one guy reacted when Borat tried to introduce himself was a disgusting display of machismo. He actually threatened violence on someone who introduced himself, and tried to shake his hand while giving him a quick kiss on the cheek...something that is done throughout various cultures. Good lord man, chill the fuck out.

dude u dont go up to random people and jsut say hi in this day in age. also u have to be a cazy do to that on a nyc train

sponger

metsfan531941 wrote:

dude u dont go up to random people and jsut say hi in this day in age. also u have to be a cazy do to that on a nyc train

fucken eh. I don't care what culture does it; nobody kisses me on the cheek. It's sort of a double standard to expect that I obey his culture when he is not obeying my culture. When americans visit the middle east they abide by arab customs. When cheek-kissing dudes come to america, they should do the same. What all you sissy europeans keep forgetting is that Hitler bent all of you over and took your fucken manhood. Your ultra-liberal lifestyles let that happen. It's easy to talk shit about our intolerance when deep down you know that the US will bail your assess out when the next ruthless dictator comes along.

FUck all of you european liberal motherfuckers. Fuck all of you to hell. Pick up a gun and learn how to fight a fucken war for once. Our guys are are getting blown to pieces because you stupid shitheads like it in the ass.

Vedderlution_Baby

sponger wrote:

So, if I were to take a trip to Europe and start trying to kiss people on the cheek, I would not get my lights punched out?

I didnt say that. What I said is that in some cultures it is accpeted as a polite way to introduce one's self. Obviously this is not practiced throughout all of europe but I'm sure it is practiced in some areas. What uspest me was that a person who is new to the country and simply trying to introduce themselves to other people was greeted with hostility and threats of violence. I'm just saying people need to calm donw a bit.

metsfan531941 wrote:

dude u dont go up to random people and jsut say hi in this day in age. also u have to be a cazy do to that on a nyc train

No kidding. Pretty sad though

sponger

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

I didnt say that. What I said is that in some cultures it is accpeted as a polite way to introduce one's self. Obviously this is not practiced throughout all of europe but I'm sure it is practiced in some areas. What uspest me was that a person who is new to the country and simply trying to introduce themselves to other people was greeted with hostility and threats of violence. I'm just saying people need to calm donw a bit.

That movie is directed at americans. It's designed to set us apart as being intolerant and naive. The reality of the situation is that he could walk into any "tolerant" and "liberal" country and say the same shit and get the same reactions.

Vedderlution_Baby

sponger wrote:

That movie is directed at americans. It's designed to set us apart as being intolerant and naive. The reality of the situation is that he could walk into any "tolerant" and "liberal" country and say the same shit and get the same reactions.

It may be directed at americans, but I think it's shitty that it happens in other places too

catefrances

sponger wrote:

fucken eh. I don't care what culture does it; nobody kisses me on the cheek. It's sort of a double standard to expect that I obey his culture when he is not obeying my culture. When americans visit the middle east they abide by arab customs. When cheek-kissing dudes come to america, they should do the same. What all you sissy europeans keep forgetting is that Hitler bent all of you over and took your fucken manhood. Your ultra-liberal lifestyles let that happen. It's easy to talk shit about our intolerance when deep down you know that the US will bail your assess out when the next ruthless dictator comes along.

FUck all of you european liberal motherfuckers. Fuck all of you to hell. Pick up a gun and learn how to fight a fucken war for once. Our guys are are getting blown to pieces because you stupid shitheads like it in the ass.

jeez sponger what crawled up your butt and died?

cheek kissing isn't part of my uptight anglo 'culture' either, but if someone is introduced to me that has that as part of theirs then i'm cool with it. i accept them for it. i certainly don't freak out and start abusing them for 'bending over and allowing hilter to f%&@ them up the ***.'


and let's not forget he was king of the lemurs.

luxpjamer

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

It may be directed at americans, but I think it's shitty that it happens in other places too

I think in some other countries or regions the reactions would have been the same. I also fund the reactions of the other people awful like the car seller, the cowboy, the rodeo-spectators and the students, they really sucked. I think that the movie would have been much better if there were more such reaction scenes. And if this naked fighting stuff ( this sitting on the face) would not have been that long. But one question: Was the scene with Pam Anderson an hidden camera scene or did she knew what happen to her?

Scratchin a Letter

MrBrian wrote:

I think cohen (the actor playing borat) developed this chracter to prove that people hate jews,

Like he's trying to prove a point. anyone else think so?

Not only that.

To expose as much racism, sexism, bigotry and disillusion as he were able to find. True, the people of the deep South are easy targets, but they knew they were being filmed. Whatever the twats in the film get is exactly what they deserve. The drunken frat boy scenario never fails to make me laugh.

MrBrian

Scratchin a Letter wrote:

Not only that.

To expose as much racism, sexism, bigotry and disillusion as he were able to find. True, the people of the deep South are easy targets, but they knew they were being filmed. Whatever the twats in the film get is exactly what they deserve. The drunken frat boy scenario never fails to make me laugh.

yes that's very true.

It's also funny how some of these people turn around and then sue the film makers after they see how stupid they come off on screen saying those things.

except those village people who the news reports say that they were paid a very small fee for being in the film, like a few dollars and hr I think it was.

MrBrian

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=415871&in_page_id=1770

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061121/ap_en_mo/film_borat_lawsuit_4

Songburst

sponger wrote:

That movie is directed at americans. It's designed to set us apart as being intolerant and naive. The reality of the situation is that he could walk into any "tolerant" and "liberal" country and say the same shit and get the same reactions.

It's only directed at Americans because Americans were the intended audience. I think that the intent of the movie was to show that despite being a progressive nation, there are still people in America who think like the Borat character. It's not a shock to most people, but it is to some. The movie is way more insulting to eastern European culture than it is to Americans. However, it is brilliant and funny.

Jammin909

MrBrian wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=415871&in_page_id=1770

This article is the worst "oh, poor me" article I have ever read. The mayor of the town says they were exploited as he probably drove away in his new VW or BMW. Romania has enough money, it just goes into all the govt officials pockets. Go after them if justice is to be served. It no ones fault that the town is so poor except for the Romanians.

Another reason why I think this film is hilarious as it exposes so many underlying issues...

Scratchin a Letter

MrBrian wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=415871&in_page_id=1770

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061121/ap_en_mo/film_borat_lawsuit_4

The quote from the mayor was the best thing I've read in ages.

"They got paid, so I'm sure they'll be alright"

Priceless

Pacomc79

MrBrian wrote:

I think cohen (the actor playing borat) developed this chracter to prove that people hate jews,

Like he's trying to prove a point. anyone else think so?

I thought it was to prove how silly racial hatred really is and the depths that people take it to in their minds.