A Question for "Aliens" ie non-US people

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    "Seriously, Bush is a country bumpkin, and you label him as a nazi?"

    I personally feel that the nationalism in the United States is leading it to some form of Nazism.

    Nazism
    n. The ideology and practice of the Nazis, especially the policy of racist nationalism, national expansion, and state control of the economy.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    "No, I think I'm pretty much spot on in lumping you people together."
    So going back to your previous post, you are sick and twisted by doing exactly what you derided us for.

    "So, do you believe him when he says that he wants Israel wiped off the map? "
    Yes. He said so. If he said it, I certainly believe it--why think otherwise?

    "Seriously, Bush is a country bumpkin, and you label him as a nazi?" Country Bumpkin? Perhaps. But where did I say he is a Nazi? What the fuck are you basing this on? Hell, what the point of your whole argument? In your last post you contradicted your self, asked me a rhetorical question earnestly, and stated that I said something I never even came close to insinuating. You, my friend, are bullshit. Fucking weak.

    Sorry, I'm lumping you in with other people I read on here, not the larger point I'm getting at.

    I disagree though, I am not bullshit and certainly haven't contradicted myself. I actually think my points have been pretty insightful. but that's just me.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Ahnimus wrote:
    "Seriously, Bush is a country bumpkin, and you label him as a nazi?"

    I personally feel that the nationalism in the United States is leading it to some form of Nazism.

    Nazism
    n. The ideology and practice of the Nazis, especially the policy of racist nationalism, national expansion, and state control of the economy.

    you need to stop feeling and to start thinking.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    Ahnimus wrote:
    "Seriously, Bush is a country bumpkin, and you label him as a nazi?"

    I personally feel that the nationalism in the United States is leading it to some form of Nazism.

    Nazism
    n. The ideology and practice of the Nazis, especially the policy of racist nationalism, national expansion, and state control of the economy.

    This is the dumbest fucking statement I have ever heard. Seriously. The US may not be perfect, but to think that we are nearing a state that controls every aspect of their populations lives, making them wear insignias to deliniate their beliefs, and forcefully expand our borders--that is just stupid and uneducated. Oh yeah, I left out the part about erradicating 6 million people because of their personal beliefs. You stupid fuck.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    you need to stop feeling and to start thinking.

    It's the same thing.

    Feeling, or what in this case would be described as intuition, is handled by fast-processing of information via the frontal insular cortex and some other region frontal ansulor cortex or some junk.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    This is the dumbest fucking statement I have ever heard. Seriously. The US may not be perfect, but to think that we are nearing a state that controls every aspect of their populations lives, making them wear insignias to deliniate their beliefs, and forcefully expand our borders--that is just stupid and uneducated. Oh yeah, I left out the part about erradicating 6 million people because of their personal beliefs. You stupid fuck.

    *Shakes head*

    That's not what I said. "Some form" implies some aspects or variation of.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    This is the dumbest fucking statement I have ever heard. Seriously. The US may not be perfect, but to think that we are nearing a state that controls every aspect of their populations lives, making them wear insignias to deliniate their beliefs, and forcefully expand our borders--that is just stupid and uneducated. Oh yeah, I left out the part about erradicating 6 million people because of their personal beliefs. You stupid fuck.

    Let me further correct your brain-processing. "Leading to" is not synonymous with "nearing".
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Ahnimus wrote:
    It's the same thing.

    Feeling, or what in this case would be described as intuition, is handled by fast-processing of information via the frontal insular cortex and some other region frontal ansulor cortex or some junk.


    anterior cingulate cortex

    That was the other one.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Let me further correct your brain-processing. "Leading to" is not synonymous with "nearing".

    Fucking bullshit. You utilized the most dispicable regime in history to make your point. The degree to which you likened them is irrelevant. You over stated the situation to make a point, and you did it without regard to the true implications or takeaway might be. You need to think more.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    Fucking bullshit. You utilized the most dispicable regime in history to make your point. The degree to which you likened them is irrelevant. You over stated the situation to make a point, and you did it without regard to the true implications or takeaway might be. You need to think more.

    I used that example because of the lesson learned by the German people concerning Nationalism.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I used that example because of the lesson learned by the German people concerning Nationalism.

    Ahnimus wrote:
    I personally feel that the nationalism in the United States is leading it to some form of Nazism. The German's realized after WW2 that it was their nationalistic pride that allowed them to be coerced.

    Does that clear things up?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Does that clear things up?

    Not at all. The Germans were destroyed, left in a power vacuum, and had little hope. Hitler capitalized on this to gain support for his agenda. He then used this to whip up a religious fervor and get people to essentially turn a blind eye to the 'downside' of his policies.

    We are not destroyed, we didn't have power vaccuum, and we had plenty of hope. The German's were 'coerced' long before Nationalism came into play. They turned to something evil because they had nothing else. Sound familiar. Now go pour yourself a nice warm cup of shut the fuck up.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    Not at all. The Germans were destroyed, left in a power vacuum, and had little hope. Hitler capitalized on this to gain support for his agenda. He then used this to whip up a religious fervor and get people to essentially turn a blind eye to the 'downside' of his policies.

    We are not destroyed, we didn't have power vaccuum, and we had plenty of hope. The German's were 'coerced' long before Nationalism came into play. They turned to something evil because they had nothing else. Sound familiar. Now go pour yourself a nice warm cup of shut the fuck up.

    That's part of the story. From speaking with German citizens who have told me that they no longer sing a whole portion of their Anthem "deutschland über alles" ("Germany above all") as an example. Also the German flag is not raised to the degree that it is raised in the U.S. or as it were prior to and during World War 2.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    Ahnimus wrote:
    That's part of the story. From speaking with German citizens who have told me that they no longer sing a whole portion of their Anthem "deutschland über alles" ("Germany above all") as an example. Also the German flag is not raised to the degree that it is raised in the U.S. or as it were prior to and during World War 2.

    They don't sing it because they are ashamed of what that lyric connotes. It doesn't explain the situation that was being discussed. And the flags not being waved...is this seriously the retort/rationale you are going to hang your hat on? Jesus.
  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    I used to live in Germany and I really felt bad for the Krauts. Every time I brought up something in their Nazi history (not even in a bad way) they got quiet and ashamed, it's history though and it sucks that nobody wanted to talk about it, young people that is.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    They don't sing it because they are ashamed of what that lyric connotes. It doesn't explain the situation that was being discussed. And the flags not being waved...is this seriously the retort/rationale you are going to hang your hat on? Jesus.

    A lot of the power vacuum you refer to was financial. Hitler was after the Rothschilds, the international bankers that sprawled (and still do today) Europe.

    They happened to be a Jewish family.

    Here is an actual video made public by the Nazis explaining why the Rothschilds control Europe's monetary system and how Judaism relates to Usury. If I recall correctly.
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=866698994176100608&q=rothschilds
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    sapperskunk wrote:
    I used to live in Germany and I really felt bad for the Krauts. Every time I brought up something in their Nazi history (not even in a bad way) they got quiet and ashamed, it's history though and it sucks that nobody wanted to talk about it, young people that is.

    Well, that is their cross to bear because the fact is, their immediate relatives did acquiesce to that monster. My concern would be if they didn't feel shame. That period, and that man, must never be forgotten--it represents the worst case scenario of dictatorship and abuse of power.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    This is part of the coercion. Certainly there were other coercions, but also Nationalism was a key part of not the rise to power of the Nazis but their ability to coerce the public.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    Should I bear responsibility for something my Grandpa or Grandma did 40 years before I was alive?
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    Well, that is their cross to bear because the fact is, their immediate relatives did acquiesce to that monster. My concern would be if they didn't feel shame. That period, and that man, must never be forgotten--it represents the worst case scenario of dictatorship and abuse of power.

    You wouldn't think that if you were Hitler.

    Hitler had a good aim at driving the Rothschilds out along with the other usurers. He just had a monstrous method of achieving that goal, he also contracted Syphilis and was addicted to Methamphetamine. He believed that God spoke to him and told him to "take over the world".
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire

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