Credible People Who Say 911 Was An Inside Job: CIA Agents, Foreign Presidents, Etc
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Nevermind wrote:Its like Jenga. Once you remove that first block the whoe thing tumbles everytime.
uh oh.
now you've gone and said, "jenga"
that is the point at which this thread jumps the shark.
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btw, just noticed your "location".
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DriftingByTheStorm wrote:uh oh.
now you've gone and said, "jenga"
that is the point at which this thread jumps the shark.
:(
btw, just noticed your "location".
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Nevermind wrote:Anyone else notice that when 9/11 is discussed in a thread with a different topic we have the usual people but when a whole thread is based on 9/11 discussion all the loonies come and spew bullshit all over the place?
well i expect the negative reaction regardless,
honestly,
i'm just impressed with the response\view count.
i don't know if it was the promise of "credible people" in the title that garnerned the response, or the relative lack or 911 threads lately or the nice weather or what ... but i truly expected this thread to drop like a stone in a pond.
so, i just shrug and smile.
at least people are reading it, right?If I was to smile and I held out my hand
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DriftingByTheStorm wrote:uh oh.
now you've gone and said, "jenga"
that is the point at which this thread jumps the shark.
HA! Love the Jenga!0 -
RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:Remove one column and the whole building comes down like a deck of cards?
Now I've heard of everything.
you've never heard of a load bearing column??
When u factor in the damage done to surrounding areas it isn't that hard to believe.
This is what u guys do everytime, someone brings up facts and all of you just brush it off. But i understand because it is hard to argue with facts. About all you can say is ,"Yeah sure, like that is true."Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
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MakingWaves wrote:you've never heard of a load bearing column??
When u factor in the damage done to surrounding areas it isn't that hard to believe.
This is what u guys do everytime, someone brings up facts and all of you just brush it off. But i understand because it is hard to argue with facts. About all you can say is ,"Yeah sure, like that is true."
I have heard of a load bearing columns. I've had to build supports around them when tearing out load bearing walls in my house. Taking out one and whoosh perfect collapse right down to the ground sounds a bit of a stretch to me.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:I have heard of a load bearing columns. I've had to build supports around them when tearing out load bearing walls in my house. Taking out one and whoosh perfect collapse right down to the ground sounds a bit of a stretch to me.
And I would agree if there had been no other damage done. But there was.Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
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MakingWaves wrote:And I would agree if there had been no other damage done. But there was.
The damage was not uniform or very deep. Besides that, how it got razed right down to the ground with molten steel noted is also very unusual to say the least.
Jet fuel...molten steel...fires burning for over 3 months afterwards....hmm...sorry...it's just not adding up.
Yeah and also give this a watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9nE372Ymc4Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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Dont forget, before 9/11 no other steel building in history has collapsed due to fire.0
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Nevermind wrote:Dont forget, before 9/11 no other steel building in history has collapsed due to fire.
This arguement gets so old. Give me a break!
It wasn't just from fire! You forget those two big fucking jets and then the collapsing towers that caused damage to and then started fires and caused WTC 7 to collapse.
"middle one-fourth to one-third width of the south face was gouged out from Floor 10 to the ground."
What was linked befor said the above. 1/3 of the south face of floor 1-10 isn't a lot of damage?!
"from inside the building at the 8th or 9th Floor elevator lobby, where two elevator cars were ejected from their shafts and landed in the hallway north of the elevator shaft, the visible portion of the south wall was gone with more light visible from the west side possibly indicating damage extending to the west"
I mean come on, the elevators were ejected from their shafts! Sure, not much damage done at all.Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
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hey you know what?
i give up.
lets just stop talking about exploding buildings and start focusing on all the strange behavior of our intelligence agencies regarding 911.
I find all that much more interesting.
I also find it really damning that multiple agents of distinction from within ours and other nations intelligence agencies are now on record saying this stinks of an "inside job".
bombs or no bombs.If I was to smile and I held out my hand
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100 days the temperatures in the basements melted thick steel beams into liquid...even with water pouring down into them for days.
That's some pretty f-ing incredible kerosene if you ask me...
Magical mystery juice...Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:100 days the temperatures in the basements melted thick steel beams into liquid...even with water pouring down into them for days.
That's some pretty f-ing incredible kerosene if you ask me...
Magical mystery juice...
Are you still talking about WTC 7? Or did the facts make you move on to something else.
We will get no where with this. You will quote some guy who says he saw pools of molten steel and I will find one that says the opposite. And then you will show that one pic with the glowing steel and quote some firemen and that is all the proof you need to believe the story.Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
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MakingWaves wrote:Are you still talking about WTC 7? Or did the facts make you move on to something else.
We will get no where with this. You will quote some guy who says he saw pools of molten steel and I will find one that says the opposite. And then you will show that one pic with the glowing steel and quote some firemen and that is all the proof you need to believe the story.0 -
MakingWaves wrote:Are you still talking about WTC 7? Or did the facts make you move on to something else.
We will get no where with this. You will quote some guy who says he saw pools of molten steel and I will find one that says the opposite. And then you will show that one pic with the glowing steel and quote some firemen and that is all the proof you need to believe the story.
No I think it's pretty clear. It was found in all 3 basements afaik. Offical guys deny it...averge joe workers and 3rd part organizations on the scene are all seeing it easily enough.
as per the article I already linked a few posts earlier.
"A report by Waste Age describes New York Sanitation Department workers moving "everything from molten steel beams to human remains." 2
A report on the Government Computer News website quotes Greg Fuchek, vice president of sales for LinksPoint Inc. as stating:
In the first few weeks, sometimes when a worker would pull a steel beam from the wreckage, the end of the beam would be dripping molten steel 3
A Messenger-Inquirer report recounts the experiences of Bronx firefighter "Toolie" O'Toole, who stated that some of the beams lifted from deep within the catacombs of Ground Zero by cranes were "dripping from the molten steel." 4
I talked to many contractors and they said they actually saw molten metal trapped, beams had just totally had been melted because of the heat. So this was the kind of heat that was going on when those airplanes hit the upper floors. It was just demolishing heat. 5
A report in the Johns Hopkins Public Health Magazine about recovery work in late October quotes Alison Geyh, Ph.D., as stating:
Fires are still actively burning and the smoke is very intense. In some pockets now being uncovered, they are finding molten steel. 6
A publication by the National Environmental Health Association quotes Ron Burger, a public health advisor at the National Center for Environmental Health, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who arrived at Ground Zero on the evening of September 12th. Burger stated:
Feeling the heat, seeing the molten steel, the layers upon layers of ash, like lava, it reminded me of Mt. St. Helen’s and the thousands who fled that disaster. 7
An article in The Newsletter of the Structural Engineers Association of Utah describing a speaking appearance by Leslie Robertson (structural engineer responsible for the design of the World Trade Center) contains this passage:
As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and molten steel was still running. 8
A member of the New York Air National Guard's 109th Air Wing was at Ground Zero from September 22 to October 6. He kept a journal on which an article containing the following passage is based.
Smoke constantly poured from the peaks. One fireman told us that there was still molten steel at the heart of the towers' remains. Firemen sprayed water to cool the debris down but the heat remained intense enough at the surface to melt their boots. 9
The book American Ground, which contains detailed descriptions of conditions at Ground Zero, contains this passage:
... or, in the early days, the streams of molten metal that leaked from the hot cores and flowed down broken walls inside the foundation hole. 10
A review of of the documentary Collateral Damage in the New York Post describes firemen at Ground Zero recalling "heat so intense they encountered rivers of molten steel." 11 "
The official story stinks to high heaven...stop trusting it like scripture..Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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DriftingByTheStorm wrote:hey you know what?
i give up.
lets just stop talking about exploding buildings and start focusing on all the strange behavior of our intelligence agencies regarding 911.
I find all that much more interesting.
I also find it really damning that multiple agents of distinction from within ours and other nations intelligence agencies are now on record saying this stinks of an "inside job".
bombs or no bombs.
This sounds very good to me.Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
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MakingWaves wrote:This sounds very good to me.
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Staying on topic another Ny top cop believes the towers were bombed.
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Here is al Queda's response to conspiracy theorists:
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/9_11_conspiracy_theories"Almost all those politicians took money from Enron, and there they are holding hearings. That's like O.J. Simpson getting in the Rae Carruth jury pool." -- Charles Barkley0 -
PJ_Saluki wrote:Here is al Queda's response to conspiracy theorists:
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/9_11_conspiracy_theories
That entire interview was staged by all parties, imo. It all looked so fake.0
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