Half U.S. abortions are repeats for women

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    Many people are unaware. There are some people that grow up with parents that are just ill-equipped. Then they go to schools where the whole concept of protection and birth control is taboo.

    So instead we want to talk about responsibility so if someone does the crime (sex) they have to do the time (parenting, the females anyway). Then we tell the baby, who's life we have just "saved" to pull himself up by his boot straps and don't get sick, because there is no way you are ever going to have health insurance.


    Spreading lies? The child will have health insurance.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    I thought the pro-abortion side always try to claim that it's essentially only used for cases of rape and medical emergency. Apparently, that's total BS as these women (and men) are using it for birth control.
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    ...are those who've helped us.

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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    surferdude wrote:
    If this is yor reasoning please tell me why the teenage pregnancy rate has hit a new low.

    cos you can't oppress reason. hard as the cons try, they cant shut down the spread of information. i bet it'd drop even more if we enacted comprehensive sex ed.

    i suppose you prefer abstinence-only education? maybe we ought to teach them masturbation gives them hairy palms... anything to keep our kids from becoming perverts right?
  • hendrix78
    hendrix78 Posts: 507
    Anyone who claims there is no way that people don't know about necessary steps for birth control is kidding themselves and has obviously never seen how some people live. In my job as a prosecutor, I have seen many children act in incredibly sexually irresponsible ways. I question how they can act this way and why they don't realize the consequences of their actions, but when I meet their parents, see their peer groups and their level of education, it becomes much easier to understand. Many people in our society grow up with parents who are barely there, and some grow up with parents who set an example of sexual irresponsibility. The public schools they attend struggle to maintain accrediteded and so they focus on SOL scores, not on practical sexual education. So yes, I do blame any politician who keeps sex education programs out of schools for part of the problem.
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    soulsinging wrote:
    cos you can't oppress reason. hard as the cons try, they cant shut down the spread of information. i bet it'd drop even more if we enacted comprehensive sex ed.

    i suppose you prefer abstinence-only education? maybe we ought to teach them masturbation gives them hairy palms... anything to keep our kids from becoming perverts right?
    How come as teenagers they're able to not get pregnant, but they seem to get stupid and forget about birth control on their 20's and 30's.

    Given there is a drop in teen pregnancy rates you could easily say that Bush's policies are working. The abortion figures of women in their 20's and 30's just show what a failure Clinton's policies were. As these are the women who were taking sex education based on Clinton's policies.
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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    soulsinging wrote:
    i suppose you prefer abstinence-only education? maybe we ought to teach them masturbation gives them hairy palms... anything to keep our kids from becoming perverts right?
    I'd prefer to keep sex education where it belongs, at home being taught by the parents.
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    surferdude wrote:
    How come as teenagers they're able to not get pregnant, but they seem to get stupid and forget about birth control on their 20's and 30's.

    Given there is a drop in teen pregnancy rates you could easily say that Bush's policies are working. The abortion figures of women in their 20's and 30's just show what a failure Clinton's policies were. As these are the women who were taking sex education based on Clinton's policies.

    that's why i want to see that missing statistic. the headline implies women in their 20s or 30s that have a second abortion were on contraception when they got pregnant. that is cause for concern.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    surferdude wrote:
    I'd prefer to keep sex education where it belongs, at home being taught by the parents.

    what do you do for the vast number of kids whose parents arent home? who dont have parents? who are in foster care? those are the kids mostly likely to get pregnant as a teenager. you'd be leaving them high and dry.
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    soulsinging wrote:
    what do you do for the vast number of kids whose parents arent home? who dont have parents? who are in foster care? those are the kids mostly likely to get pregnant as a teenager. you'd be leaving them high and dry.
    I should correct that. Sex education should be taught in the home by the parent(s) or guardian(s). Does this now satisfy you that all kids will get the sex education their parents/guardians deem correct?
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Spreading lies? The child will have health insurance.

    How? Health insurance will be forever tied to his parents jobs. Sure, some will have health insurance, but tons of kids grow up without it.
    I cannot come up with a new sig till I get this egg off my face.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    How? Health insurance will be forever tied to his parents jobs. Sure, some will have health insurance, but tons of kids grow up without it.

    Not true...they are covered...
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  • Staceb10
    Staceb10 Posts: 675
    soulsinging wrote:
    im guessing they get better sex ed in singapore than her, which is pretty fucked up.

    im not blaming bush, im blaming cultural conservatives who feel the best sex ed is the kind that pretends contraception doesn't exist, or if it does it doesn't work and then tells kids the ONLY option is abstinence. that's fucking ridiculous.

    im disturbed that she just lets this guy do it. im more disturbed that he just stopped using condoms. why? my guess... it doesn't feel as good and he knows he can abandon her if she gets knocked up and she's fucked. you give me a comperhensive plan for holding every male accountable for every child he produces, and ill bend on abortion. as it is, you're placing all the consequences on the women and giving men a total free pass when it comes to sex. but that's the way we like it in america... boys will be boys and girls will stay in the kitchen so they dont become whores.


    How am I giving anyone a free pass? I'm putting the responsiblity of BOTH people. What I'm saying is that I find it hard to believe that women today aren't exposed to any information about condoms or birth control and are "unaware" of the steps necessary to prevent pregnancy. Men either for that matter.
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    cincybearcat wrote:
    With all the terrible things that this current civilization has caused...wars mainly, but extreme greed, etc as well...

    I truly think that when we are gone and the next civilization is reading about us on the walls of their museums, they will look back in shock (and awe) about the mass murder of our children.

    it's a sad, sad legacy...and it's all of ours...I'm in a bad mood.

    With all that will shock them, I don't think abortion will stand out.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    Abuskedti wrote:
    With all that will shock them, I don't think abortion will stand out.


    I'm pretty sure the systematic killing of babies will be what stands out.
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  • Staceb10
    Staceb10 Posts: 675
    hendrix78 wrote:
    Anyone who claims there is no way that people don't know about necessary steps for birth control is kidding themselves and has obviously never seen how some people live. In my job as a prosecutor, I have seen many children act in incredibly sexually irresponsible ways. I question how they can act this way and why they don't realize the consequences of their actions, but when I meet their parents, see their peer groups and their level of education, it becomes much easier to understand. Many people in our society grow up with parents who are barely there, and some grow up with parents who set an example of sexual irresponsibility. The public schools they attend struggle to maintain accrediteded and so they focus on SOL scores, not on practical sexual education. So yes, I do blame any politician who keeps sex education programs out of schools for part of the problem.


    Sexual irresponsibility isn't the same as being uninformed. My mother didn't believe in sex before marriage.. taught me abstinence only and I was aware of birth control from other areas of my life..school, friends, tv, etc. You know what though.. I still got pregnant when I was a teenager and you want to know why.. because I was IRRESPONSIBLE.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Staceb10 wrote:
    Sexual irresponsibility isn't the same as being uninformed. My mother didn't believe in sex before marriage.. taught me abstinence only and I was aware of birth control from other areas of my life..school, friends, tv, etc. You know what though.. I still got pregnant when I was a teenager and you want to know why.. because I was IRRESPONSIBLE.

    What? Someone taking responsibility for their actions and admitting they were wrong? Don't you know that's not allowed in today's society? ;)
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I'm pretty sure the systematic killing of babies will be what stands out.


    assuming they've agreed on what counts as a baby. Which I doubt they will
  • Staceb10
    Staceb10 Posts: 675
    know1 wrote:
    What? Someone taking responsibility for their actions and admitting they were wrong? Don't you know that's not allowed in today's society? ;)

    Oh my bad.. :D
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    assuming they've agreed on what counts as a baby. Which I doubt they will


    They'll be more evolved than we are...I believe they will have agreed...and will look back in horror and disgust. Unless of course will comepltely wipe out life through a nice combination of abortion, murder, and war....is that redundant?
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    Staceb10 wrote:
    Oh my bad.. :D

    Damn, you did it again. It's not your bad...it's society's bad, or maybe your mom's bad, or your dad's bad, or the president's bad...but never your bad.
    hippiemom = goodness

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