White Supremacist groups on the rise in U.S.

onelongsong wrote:

so there's no poor whites? whites haven't lost jobs to people of colour because of quotas? there's no white families living in campers? it's this mentality that breeds racism and hatred. if we're all equal; then treat everyone equal. because of my medical condition; i have several doctors. not one is white. during my divorce i sat in court and noticed the lawyers of colour outnumbered white lawyers 3 to 1. i'm not a sports fan but how many high dollar blacks are there in relation to whites? what is the ratio of whites to those of colour in government? don't spew that bs on me. i know better.

Yes, there are poor whites. I used to be one.
Whites don't "lose" jobs because of quotas. There are probably some that didn't get a job because they were on the same level as a black applicant; but none were fired for being white.
You don't need to point out whites in campers. I've seen it every day for the last year and a half.
Your doctors - are they foreign by any chance?
I worked for a law firm. Every last one of the lawyers was white. The rest of the staff, not so much.
And if you think that a vast majority of those in government aren't white, well, Jesus, I don't know what to say there.

Ahnimus wrote:

Hey I'm Canadian. Remember that time we totally kicked your ass? No? It was 1812 we burned down your capital. Still don't remember? Well.. It was funny anyway.

/jokes

Your British now are ya?

Last Exodus wrote:

Have their own distinct culture and identity in this country. They are not just bound by color. They are bound by history, religion, neighborhood, MUSIC, etc, etc. You cannot make the same sweeping generalization about whites. The only people I know of who celebrate their white heritage are the Klan and the Skinheads. That's because the rest of us are European, and therefore have roots to a distinct European culture, otherwise we identify ourselves as Americans, and we have the 4th of July for that.

The blurring comes in terms like "african-american" which tosses out all of the West Indians as if they didn't exist.

zstillings wrote:

The blurring comes in terms like "african-american" which tosses out all of the West Indians as if they didn't exist.

Fine, Blacks. But the majority of Blacks in this country were once African.

Last Exodus wrote:

Have their own distinct culture and identity in this country. They are not just bound by color. They are bound by history, religion, neighborhood, MUSIC, etc, etc. You cannot make the same sweeping generalization about whites. The only people I know of who celebrate their white heritage are the Klan and the Skinheads. That's because the rest of us are European, and therefore have roots to a distinct European culture, otherwise we identify ourselves as Americans, and we have the 4th of July for that.

I think that's what I was going for. I put the term "blackness" in quotes because there is a lot more to it than that. I don't really consider white to be the equivalent of black here in the States, as far as terms go. Instead of "white," it's Irish or French or British. When someone says they want to celebrate their "whiteness," I get nervous. When someone says they want to celebrate their Irish heritage, I say "pass the Guinness."

Last Exodus wrote:

Alot of people throw that word around loosely on this board. They are amazingly ignorant at how hurtful it is to use that word out of its true context.

who cares!! -think how blacks and whites feel when threatened with genoicide by mexican nazis in 2007 usa -were sick of it!!

see my new post

Last Exodus wrote:

Fine, Blacks. But the majority of Blacks in this country were once African.

What percentage have direct family ties to slaves?

RainDog wrote:

I think that's what I was going for. I put the term "blackness" in quotes because there is a lot more to it than that. I don't really consider white to be the equivalent of black here in the States, as far as terms go. Instead of "white," it's Irish or French or British. When someone says they want to celebrate their "whiteness," I get nervous. When someone says they want to celebrate their Irish heritage, I say "pass the Guinness."

That's what I was getting at. There is a difference between saying "I want to celebrate my Jamaicanness" and "I want to celebrate my pigment."

onelongsong wrote:

i was recruited by a friend at a large publicly traded company for a position. i was called into a meeting where i was told due to government quota; they had to hire a black and a woman to continue receiving government contracts. because there was only 1 opening; they hired the only black woman that applied and she was fresh out of high school. this happened to me personally.

So were you fired or were you not hired?

onelongsong wrote:

my neurologist is from fiji.

So he or she likely didn't get the job because of being in a minority. There are lots of foreign doctors. I dont' think affirmative action has anything to do with that.

onelongsong wrote:

the majority in government are white; but i said proportionate.

Let's look at the black proportions, shall we. Blacks make up roughly 12% of the U.S. population. Currently, 7% of the U.S. Congress (House and Senate) is black - around 9% in the House and exactly 1% in the Senate.

***edited for dumb math.

zstillings wrote:

That's what I was getting at. There is a difference between saying "I want to celebrate my Jamaicanness" and "I want to celebrate my pigment."

What if all you know is that "I'm Black and I was born in America"?