Oprah Makes A Sterotypical Racist Comment!

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  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    reborncareerist wrote:
    I think a person's intent should matter more than their skin colour, when we are talking who should or should not use particular words.
    On the surface, I agree. But that doesn't change the implied intent when a white person calls a black person by certain names - and it's a completely different implied intent when two black people refer to each other. It's such a strong implied intent, in fact, that if a non-racist white person calls a black person certain words, that white person better have a prepared disertation ready to explain himself - to both black people and other white people.

    As for Oprah's comment, all I have to say is that I don't recall black people using the phrase "white people have no rhythm" as a past cry for lynchings. Imus might not have hit that mark, either; but he was much closer.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    NMyTree wrote:
    This explains a lot:rolleyes:

    The Simpsons is hardly any thing to derive profound overtures and undertones, from.
    It explains nothing other than a joke all this reminded me of.

    But thanks for the advice on what I can and cannot "derive profound overtures and undertones from." I'll make sure I file NMyTree under the same heading.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    RainDog wrote:
    On the surface, I agree. But that doesn't change the implied intent when a white person calls a black person by certain names - and it's a completely different implied intent when two black people refer to each other. It's such a strong implied intent, in fact, that if a non-racist white person calls a black person certain words, that white person better have a prepared disertation ready to explain himself - to both black people and other white people.

    As for Oprah's comment, all I have to say is that I don't recall black people using the phrase "white people have no rhythm" as a past cry for lynchings. Imus might not have hit that mark, either; but he was much closer.

    She still shouldn't be using stupid stereotypes as some kind of a joke, either ... Not if members of other groups cannot get away with it. White people have no rhythm is one of those fairly benign stereotypes, kinda like black people hate camping.
    Anyhow, that's the fundamental point ... Either we should all have a sense of humour, or the rules should apply in a consistent way. I'd prefer the former option, although admittedly what Imus said wasn't funny.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Oprah is a hypocrite. what else is new?

    she makes bank, that's why she can say what she wants. If imus or whatever made that kinda money, he could probably of changed his show to "nappy headed ho's"
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    RainDog wrote:
    It explains nothing other than a joke all this reminded me of.

    But thanks for the advice on what I can and cannot "derive profound overtures and undertones from." I'll make sure I file NMyTree under the same heading.


    It's funny you claim to understand a joke on the Simpsons, but completely lost on a joke by Imus. Oh well, I suppose we are all a product of what we are exposed to.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    MrBrian wrote:
    Oprah is a hypocrite. what else is new?

    she makes bank, that's why she can say what she wants. If imus or whatever made that kinda money, he could probably of changed his show to "nappy headed ho's"


    Are you kidding? Imus has made a killing with his show and his contract was worth several million dollars. Something like......30+ million, if I remember correctly.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    MrBrian wrote:
    Oprah is a hypocrite. what else is new?

    she makes bank, that's why she can say what she wants. If imus or whatever made that kinda money, he could probably of changed his show to "nappy headed ho's"

    Point ... Imus has no book club, nor legions of brainwashed fans who cling to him for "inspiration".
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    NMyTree wrote:
    It's funny you claim to understand a joke on the Simpsons, but completely lost on a joke by Imus. Oh well, I suppose we are all a product of what we are exposed to.
    As I said before, Imus's "joke" didn't lose me. Oh well, I suppose we can't all have that refined, sublime sense of humor that some on this board exude.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    RainDog wrote:
    Oh well, I suppose we can't all have that refined, sublime sense of humor that some on this board exude.


    Now you're getting it:D:D;)

    But you forgot to include sophisticated and complex:D:D
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    reborncareerist wrote:
    She still shouldn't be using stupid stereotypes as some kind of a joke, either ... Not if members of other groups cannot get away with it. White people have no rhythm is one of those fairly benign stereotypes, kinda like black people hate camping.
    Anyhow, that's the fundamental point ... Either we should all have a sense of humour, or the rules should apply in a consistent way. I'd prefer the former option, although admittedly what Imus said wasn't funny.
    I don't think we should remove all stereotypical humor - or any for that matter. Each joke should stand on it's own, and that's what's happened here. Imus's joke, when presented, wasn't only mean spirited, but it wasn't funny or really all that defensible.

    Since I brought up Pulp Fiction before, let me say that Tarantino - a white guy - has written some damn funny, and somewhat mean spirited, racial humor (sorry, I just saw Grindhouse this weekend, and the man's on my mind). So has Mencia and Chappelle. But racial slurs, in and of themselves, are not funny. Shocking, maybe - and if that's all a shock jock is supposed to do, so be it - but not automatically funny. And, when you push that envelope, you have to be careful. You're always going to offend somebody - but if you don't do it right, you'll likely offend far more than you'll make chuckle. Then you lose money, then you lose your job.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    RainDog wrote:
    I don't think we should remove all stereotypical humor - or any for that matter. Each joke should stand on it's own, and that's what's happened here. Imus's joke, when presented, wasn't only mean spirited, but it wasn't funny or really all that defensible.

    Since I brought up Pulp Fiction before, let me say that Tarantino - a white guy - has written some damn funny, and somewhat mean spirited, racial humor (sorry, I just saw Grindhouse this weekend, and the man's on my mind). So has Mencia and Chappelle. But racial slurs, in and of themselves, are not funny. Shocking, maybe - and if that's all a shock jock is supposed to do, so be it - but not automatically funny. And, when you push that envelope, you have to be careful. You're always going to offend somebody - but if you don't do it right, you'll likely offend far more than you'll make chuckle. Then you lose money, then you lose your job.

    Clearly you didn't get it. You keep claining you "get it". But you do not. This post certainly proves that.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    NMyTree wrote:
    Clearly you didn't get it. You keep claining you "get it". But you do not. This post certainly proves that.
    Well, if I don't get it, how am I supposed to get that I don't get it if someone of your calibre doesn't explain to me how I should get it?
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    RainDog wrote:
    Well, if I don't get it, how am I supposed to get that I don't get it if someone of your calibre doesn't explain to me how I should get it?

    If I remember right, a couple pages back he said that racism was a spermicide that needed lubrication, and that by retribution, the spermicide spreads.
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  • gue_barium
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    gue_barium wrote:
    If I remember right, a couple pages back he said that racism was a spermicide that needed lubrication, and that by retribution, the spermicide spreads.

    Oh, that wasn't it. It was "parasite". Nevermind.
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  • cornnifer
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    onelongsong wrote:
    yes it is common venacular. my dad picked up the phrase "it'll blow your mind" back in the 70's. he uses it to this day but he picked it up because those around him used it frequently. btw; he's 73.
    so when you're in an office with 20 people and 19 of them use the word nigger the way i use the word dude or man; the 20th person is going to pick up that word or phrase.

    The word, in no way can be described as COMMON vernacular. The 20th person better be careful. He is about to have 19 coworkers kicking his pale ass.
    Justifiably.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    NMyTree wrote:
    Are you kidding? Imus has made a killing with his show and his contract was worth several million dollars. Something like......30+ million, if I remember correctly.

    as reborn mentioned, Oprah has a very very devoted base. also imus money is still very small compared to Oprah.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    cornnifer wrote:
    The word, in no way can be described as COMMON vernacular. The 20th person better be careful. He is about to have 19 coworkers kicking his pale ass.
    Justifiably.

    no; the 20th person carries a gun.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    onelongsong wrote:
    no; the 20th person carries a gun.

    And...what? Person 20 says, "lookit me, I'm saying 'niger, nigger, nigger!!!! ahahahahah'...come on, do something!" ???

    Jesus Christ man, grow the fuck up.
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  • RainDog
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    gue_barium wrote:
    Oh, that wasn't it. It was "parasite". Nevermind.
    I believe NMyTree also thought Michael Richards' little tyrade was quite "profound." And I'm the one with a malfunctioning sense of humor?
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    RainDog wrote:
    I believe NMyTree also thought Michael Richards' little tyrade was quite "profound." And I'm the one with a malfunctioning sense of humor?

    I usually try to stay out of these. I guess it doesn't do any harm for people to air their grievances, though, I mean, that's the point. It can lead to better things. For instance, today, 69Charger learned that it was a big shot conservative that led the charge to get Imus off the air, while he had been led to believe it was a case of liberalism.


    Parasite ~ spermicide. I always confuse those two.
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