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I added a bit here:


I denounce your temporal plane
Transgressions and faults require at least one day
I close eyes to the Unions ritual Decree
Why cant you just tell us all
That we should live free

Don’t portray false messages
From the unbirthed Ghost
Thoughts of Temporal lashings
Hurt the most

Evil lurks behind those pure eyes
Why repent sins against son of man
While Spirit defaced throws away the lamb
Is this His discipline
Or a controlling façade
Eating bread
From sweat of brow
Do all before Him
Be condemned by God

This might be
A mortal sin
Seems so venial
At best
Deep within

Free your body
Mind and soul
Drink the blood
Ass you grow old

Before my living
Can commence
Holy Eucharist Sacrament
But when you kneel
And then repent
If you die you’ll stay above
But without feast
Will He show His love

twin2 wrote:

Interesting read. Not too much into religion I'm gathering.

I am very much so actually....here is my quick story...I posted it in another thread a couple days ago..............

http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?p=2961834#post2961834


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Originally Posted by hailhailkc
You sure you're a main of your own faith...because you sound pretty Catholic to me.


yeah, I am pretty sure.

My parents are of 2 different faiths, and my dad's side is strong Catholic. They married United. I hated united, viewing it as weak, and really having no strong base. I left it when I was 16.

I wasn't sure where I wanted to turn to. My family is not an outgoing religious family, but felt that if I could find a new faith, and justify why I was interested in it, they would accept it (this was at 14-15)

I considered Maorti (Judaism is fairly interesting, and this form is a bit more forgiving/liberal), but just didn't feel it was for me.I could not go Prodistant/anglican (I am Irish, and knew this would be unnacceptable to many extended family members (catholic)). I found the prodestant ways (all strands) TOO overbering. Islam was fairl alluring, but I was very confused about some of the Sunni and Shiite followings, though I am still in awe uf this faith.

I decided I was interested in Scientology. I learned as much as I could about it. I found that it made a lot of sense. Fortunately, my family said no. The religion really has went in an odd direction from it roots over the past few years.

I researched Paganism, but for some reason could not separate it from Druid days. It really is a nice faith, but the Druid thing ALWAYS pops to mind when I think about it.

Finally I came across Devine Science. This is a great faith that essentially believes one should follow the teachings of God/Jesus/bible, but that we are of our own doing. I liked this, and looked for similar faiths. I came across many including, but not limited to, Scientific Pantheism, and Finally I found Theosophy. I liked this. There were similar faiths, but I went with this because it is loosely based on Catholism, which I was always fairly familiar with, and had attended Catholic church periodically.

Down the road, I got engaged to a girl from an extremely Catholic family. They didn’t even like us dating, so before I asked her to marry me, I converted to Catholic. I have SEVERAL reasons for not liking the religion, from before and after I converted. I could go on and on about that, but the final straw for me was when I asked a priest to justify why a newborn that dies can not go to heaven. I could not accept that. They have not committed any real sins, but NO access!!! We are no longer together.

I realized that I really do not believe in god, or a higher power, so I am still in search.

I guess technically I am a non-practicing Catholic, though I really inside am not even that.

I have continued research on many religions, and have read the new testament several times, along with other converted to English sacraments from various religions. I still know main stream Christianity best (all Christianities I believe use the bible, so there are always a lot of similarities). I look at religion research as more of a hobby than anything. I find it fascinating.

Presently I am looking more into Deism and Taoism. Tao may actually be what I would be most interested in following, if that day ever comes again.


So, anyways, that is why I know what I know. I have done a fair amount of research, converted a few times, and read a lot on Christianity as a whole, discoverring the close bindings and enormous wedges between so many strands of one faith.


If you read all of that, congrats and thanks.
'.'

Kings that rule
You can see
Sit on the thrown
With iron fist
Pounding on the arm
Causing fear
Controlling chaos
Decree shows that they are real

Oh these prayers
Shall we try again
To the unseen man
One whom has no name

Oh remember
Those illusions are in his game
Your delusions his pawn to play
He likes to plot
To let it grow
Diversions come in so many ways
He passes time
You pass your life away

Disposition of the unseen king
It hides in shadows
It hides from you
It hides in shadow
Would you follow
If you ever saw the truth

Lay me down
I know there will be no one to comfort me
Where I go
You will never see
What I am
What I’ll be
Where I’m at
I’ll feed this tree

No more thinking
No more pain
No more will
Eat the moment
Tasting that it is for real
No more hopes
No more dreams
No more anger
Over what will never be

No more thoughts
No more empty days
No trying
All hail eternal night
No more crying
No more wonder
No more ponder
Return to where we all come from

In these moments
Nowhere to fade
Passing moments
End of game

So uninspired
So ridiculed
So walk away
Nowhere to go to
So long now
So it’s gone
So memories
They’ll wash away from time

In these moments I hate it all
Regret those moments
That passed on by
In these moments I let it go
Can’t take it with me
Nowhere to go
In these moments it sinks on in
Nothing to die for
Why would I live
In these moments
No more need to forgive

And so shallow
Senseless game
Didn’t want to join
Don’t want to play

Whatever lies
Whomever steals
One who blesses
Who helps a friend
Kindest heart
Passion of soul
He who plunders
Who steals your gold
It’s all the same
One final end
Rewards of heaven
Passed on to you
Keeps the law in trend

Do you feel inspired
Are you in his game
Is your mind so trapped
You still desire to pray

Die
Live it the way you want to
Die
Clear you path
Make your own truth
Die
End the game
You’re the only one who plays
Die
Fade away days righteous days
Lie
He can never strike you down
Question convictions
Devotion is what has lead astray
He who jesters lives their fate untold

Go on now
Go and hang your head
Clasp your hands
Bleed out the dread
If it helps you sleep at night
Grasp at straws
Hold the spirit tight
Go on now
Go hang your head
Is this your life or something you do to make your bed

Rest on
Hope it comforts you
Sleep
Feeling your soul is at ease
Breathe
Let it go now just release
Forgo his sanctity once you know that it’s all make-believe

Still from the book
Sacred lies
Truths untold
Right before your eyes
Once walked a boy
Then was a man
Before his birth
Spread healing to the land
And kings bowed down
They aimed to please
By claiming so
Brainwashing control would lead

And empty
Words that fill
Heaps and loads
Of crap to spread like weeds
In spoken fears
Wrath to unfold
So follow faith
Bow down in prayer
To the no one who leads
Bow down your head
Make their creature real

Final moments
Not a sign
No regret
You never had to fall in line
Final moments
Fade away
Where you will be resting
There you shall stay

No more weekends
No holidays
Can’t see sunshine
All fades away
No outstretched hand
No big white gate
You won’t look down
On the ones who stayed
Not too hot
Not too cold
Nothing to feel
When your feeding the world

walkerlastgen1 wrote:

I myself believe in god and his son.. jesus. I was born and raised church of christ untill my parents split and I began to alternate weekends between a baptist church and the c of Christ. The danger in religion comes when a person stops exploring and sharing it, and thinks that he/she has it all figured out. It is human nature to disagree and no one likes to admit they are wrong.
The majority of the hard core baptist where sure that the Church of Christ people were going to hell and vice versa. This left a stain in my heart that leads me not to trust churches all together. So many people listen for God through the voice of the preacher, take it literally and evetually feel that He or she can do no wrong. Then when they do, like we all do, we become hypocrits in the eyes of people on the other side. I believe a quality of a church lies in the quality of the music. I find it hard to trust a service that seems more like a show rather than people lifting they're voices to GoD in unison.
I will not attend a church under the leadership of a minister that will never admit he was wrong about something. I will also never again attend a church that is unexepting of other cultures. These places of worship cannot be found by reading the title of the church. You have to experience it for yourself. If you feel inclined to try something different, TRY it. People are going to always have an opinion, but we follow God he doesn't follow us or certian people.



Please don't take this reply as me attempting to "preach because my soul is no order to lead anyone , anywhere."

I hear what you are saying...but there is more to this one than the top layer you are seeing