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  • sistanumsy wrote:
    Man this is such a great piece and yeah it does have an underlying layer. As I read it I found my self writing it too so here is what happened. If I changed it in your heart fealt meaning I apologize in advance.:o



    kings that rule can you see
    sit in the thrown with iron fist
    pounding on the arm causing fear
    control chaos, by decree they are real
    oh these prayers shall we try again
    to the unseen man whom has no name
    remember illusions are in his name
    your delusions his pawn to play
    he likes to plot to let it grow
    diversions come in so many ways
    he passes time you pass lifes way
    disposition of the unseen king
    it hides in shadows hides form you
    It hides in shadow would you follow
    if you ever saw the truth

    lay me down to comfort me
    where I go you will never see
    what I am what I'll be...
    where I'm at I'll feed this tree
    no more thinking, no more pain
    no more will eat the moment
    tasting that is is for real
    no more hopes, no more dreams,
    no more anger of what will never be
    no thoughts of empty days, no trying
    all hail eternal night
    no crying, or wonder to ponder
    return where we all come from
    In these moments nowhere to fade
    passing moments, end of game

    uninspired, ridiculed, so walk away
    no where to go to, so long now
    it's gone in memories so
    they'll wash away from time
    in these moments I let it go
    can't take it with me- nowhere
    in these moments it sinks on in
    nothing to die for why would I live
    in these moments no more to forgive
    and so shallow senseless game
    didn't want to join didn't want to play
    whatever lies whomever kills
    one who blesses, who helps a freind
    kindest heart passion of soul
    he who plunders who steals your gold
    it's all the same one final end
    rewards of heaven passed on to you
    keeping the law in trend

    feel inspired? are you in his game?
    is your mind trapped, desire to pray
    live it the way you want to-die
    clear your path, your own truth-die
    end the game the only one who plays-die
    fade away days, righteous, days-die
    he can never strike you down-lie
    lie to question convictions
    devotion is what has lead astray
    he who jesters lives their fate untold
    go on now and hang your head
    clasp your hands, bleed out the dread
    if it helps you sleep at night
    grasp at straws, hold the spirit tight
    go on now go hang your head
    is this your life or something you do
    to make your bed, rest on
    hope it comforts you, sleep
    feeling your soul is at ease
    breathe, let it go, now just release
    forgo his sanctity once you know
    " it's all make believe " so...

    still from the book sacred lies
    truths untold right before your eyes
    once walked a boy then was a man
    before his birth, healing spread the land
    kings bowed down aimed to please
    so, brainwashing control would lead
    empty words, fill, heaps and loads
    of crap to spread like weeds
    in spoken fears wrath to unfold
    so follow faith bow down in prayer
    to the no one who leads bow down
    in your head make their creature real
    final moments, not a sign, no regret
    you never had to fall in line
    final moments that fade away, where
    you will be resting there you shall stay
    no more weekends no holidays
    can't see sunshine all fades away
    no outstretched hand no big white gate
    you won't look down on ones who stayed
    not too hot not too cold nothing to feel
    when your feeding the world.


    looks good, ty
    The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!

    And I won't make the same mistakes
    (Because I know)
    Because I know how much time that wastes
    (And function)
    Function is the key
  • twin1 wrote:
    O.k. aside from the obvious, this is what I got from it:

    we are all pawns in God's game - why would a loving God who teaches love allow suffering or give us "tests" - thus a question of his character; following someone who does things we are told not to do; mind-games; contradiction.

    regret for past mistakes and/or opportunities missed following and doing the "right thing", a love lost, etc.

    religion is a crutch for some to ease pain or justify themselves. it may be reason to exist/live. it is also a way for leaders to justify themselves and keep people in line/control.

    if you don't follow those truths and make your own way, you can get what you want without having to answer to anyone or give control to something/someone who may not exist.

    Is that kinda in line with it? Am I missing more to it? I liked that you could read different things into this poem and take it different ways. You do have a gift with that. :)





    we are all pawns in God's game - why would a loving God who teaches love allow suffering or give us "tests" - thus a question of his character; following someone who does things we are told not to do; mind-games; contradiction.
    - freewill....God gave us free will, and essentially wanted us to make the decision to worship him. He put us here and wants us to idolize him. He gave us life so that we could live in awe of him.


    religion is a crutch for some to ease pain or justify themselves. it may be reason to exist/live. it is also a way for leaders to justify themselves and keep people in line/control.
    if you don't follow those truths and make your own way, you can get what you want without having to answer to anyone or give control to something/someone who may not exist.
    - this is one of my obvious points, sort of


    I am not saying god is not real...I am not saying he is. I don't know, but I do believe that at minimum leaders have marred God's world in effort to control...to create a sense of fear in people, and have them see that there are even greater consequences for their actions than they themself can hand out.

    God expects us to live our lives for him. I am having a hard time rememberring the exact line/passage, I will have to look it up later, but it states that gathering wood on sunday is a holy crime, that we should set sunday asside to focus on him.

    Personally I don't believe in a god, there is just no way he would not strike more people down for protesting against him. He would see wrongdoings of the churches and stop them. While we do have free will, we do not have the right of sin within the places of worship.

    This pieces has less to do with god, and more with freewill and abuse of power
    The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!

    And I won't make the same mistakes
    (Because I know)
    Because I know how much time that wastes
    (And function)
    Function is the key
  • sistanumsy
    sistanumsy Posts: 218
    looks good, ty
    So I guess you didn't care for it. No hard feelings I hope. I did get the whole choice contradiction. still love the piece.
    K-The lost will do their best to get home, if they are loved. To our soldiers who have given what they had.
  • sistanumsy wrote:
    So I guess you didn't care for it. No hard feelings I hope. I did get the whole choice contradiction. still love the piece.


    no, I liked how your version flows. It was great.
    The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!

    And I won't make the same mistakes
    (Because I know)
    Because I know how much time that wastes
    (And function)
    Function is the key
  • twin1
    twin1 Posts: 902
    [quote="depopulationINC

    I am not saying god is not real...I am not saying he is. I don't know, but I do believe that at minimum leaders have marred God's world in effort to control...to create a sense of fear in people, and have them see that there are even greater consequences for their actions than they themself can hand out. -- I would have to agree with this regarding leaders taking advantage of people and using religion for control.

    God expects us to live our lives for him. I am having a hard time rememberring the exact line/passage, I will have to look it up later, but it states that gathering wood on sunday is a holy crime, that we should set sunday asside to focus on him. -- I am not familiar with that passage, could be, I gathered that God wants us to glorify him in all we do, every task and aspect of our lives, not just Sunday, would that count if you gathered wood and were thinking about him or singing him a song while doing it? :)

    Personally I don't believe in a god, there is just no way he would not strike more people down for protesting against him. He would see wrongdoings of the churches and stop them. While we do have free will, we do not have the right of sin within the places of worship. -- there is good and bad in everyone and everything, why would that not exist in church? discernment and compassion go a long way.

    This pieces has less to do with god, and more with freewill and abuse of power[/quote"] -- good post and yes, I do see that... :):)
    Our love must not be just words, but True Love, which shows itself in action,
    No one needs a smile more than someone who fails to give one,
    After you die...you know how to LIVE!
  • Oh but the world is divided and the stage is set for a great deciever to sit on the throne of the world and declare himself to be God. Believe in god? Don't believe?Don't know? The rich and powerfull in this world are dividing the human population in two. The world is taking sides. But we are cleverly fed an intricite, clever diet of t.v. and popular websites to dumb us down and numb us to the atrocities of world globalization. This great peice of writing pretty much speaks all my doubts about the modern world and the cosmos all together. As far as my fgirst reply ,depop, It was more in regards to what you wrote about your history in religion than the piece its'self.
    I took a walk so I could curse my ass for being dumb!!!

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  • Oh but the world is divided and the stage is set for a great deciever to sit on the throne of the world and declare himself to be God. Believe in god? Don't believe?Don't know? The rich and powerfull in this world are dividing the human population in two. The world is taking sides. But we are cleverly fed an intricite, clever diet of t.v. and popular websites to dumb us down and numb us to the atrocities of world globalization. This great peice of writing pretty much speaks all my doubts about the modern world and the cosmos all together. As far as my fgirst reply ,depop, It was more in regards to what you wrote about your history in religion than the piece its'self.


    Ahh, I see what you mean by religion history, yeah. And like I said, if somebody wants to believe in god, that is great. I may be wrong. It is impressive to see people stand by their convictions. I alson know many people that religion has trully saved.

    I really like how you stated the above. This is very close to what I was trying to write about. I never could have stated it that clearly though.

    Much of my writing is based on this subject...at least 40% I would say.
    The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!

    And I won't make the same mistakes
    (Because I know)
    Because I know how much time that wastes
    (And function)
    Function is the key
  • twin1
    twin1 Posts: 902
    Oh but the world is divided and the stage is set for a great deciever to sit on the throne of the world and declare himself to be God. Believe in god? Don't believe?Don't know? The rich and powerfull in this world are dividing the human population in two. The world is taking sides. But we are cleverly fed an intricite, clever diet of t.v. and popular websites to dumb us down and numb us to the atrocities of world globalization. This great peice of writing pretty much speaks all my doubts about the modern world and the cosmos all together. As far as my fgirst reply ,depop, It was more in regards to what you wrote about your history in religion than the piece its'self.

    I would have to agree with this. It is very scary to see this division. It is everywhere though - in our backyards, we see it everyday. We can see it in children and how they are being raised. I am an idealist and greatly out numbered but I will always believe that peace and love can exist if people make that effort to adopt it. I do think we can make a difference in our own little corner of the world by making a choice to be different than the norm and standing by that, even when it hurts. I tell you though, it is hard work, just what my kids are taught in school and on t.v., it is all about looking out for #1 and what a person can gain. It starts young and there is a great moral decline. People look to follow who can give them the most with the least effort on their part. It is all a very real danger that we walk right into.
    Our love must not be just words, but True Love, which shows itself in action,
    No one needs a smile more than someone who fails to give one,
    After you die...you know how to LIVE!
  • I know this sounds cliche' but "united we stand, divided we fall."
    I took a walk so I could curse my ass for being dumb!!!

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  • sistanumsy
    sistanumsy Posts: 218
    Where?????
    K-The lost will do their best to get home, if they are loved. To our soldiers who have given what they had.
  • huh??
    ...........
    The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!

    And I won't make the same mistakes
    (Because I know)
    Because I know how much time that wastes
    (And function)
    Function is the key
  • sistanumsy
    sistanumsy Posts: 218
    I should have quoted Walkerlast...something funny I caught the end of it and was meaning it more of a challenge. Even if you are north of here the general idea of human kind 'united we stand'. Glad to hear the outcome.
    K-The lost will do their best to get home, if they are loved. To our soldiers who have given what they had.
  • twin1
    twin1 Posts: 902
    sistanumsy wrote:
    I should have quoted Walkerlast...something funny I caught the end of it and was meaning it more of a challenge. Even if you are north of here the general idea of human kind 'united we stand'. Glad to hear the outcome.

    Kinda the point I think, it is not united, but we choose where each one of us fall on that. Say "whatever, that is the way it is" or "I may not make much of a difference but I can still try". :)
    Our love must not be just words, but True Love, which shows itself in action,
    No one needs a smile more than someone who fails to give one,
    After you die...you know how to LIVE!
  • Can you step aside
    Fuck it
    You can let it go
    You know
    If you want
    If you could
    Know you will
    No damn will
    Systematic
    Watch it fade
    Let it go
    In a moment
    Just let it all subside

    Bleeding souls
    From finger tips
    Fire’s breath
    Brings with fear
    Brings the angel’s grip

    Step away
    Let it all go
    Lighten your grasp
    Let it all drift
    Step away now
    Time to give in
    Haunting horrors
    Let them all in

    Is this your life
    Marionette
    Crave the deity
    Surrender purity
    And get handled
    Promised clarity

    Oh what vanity
    Ode to sacredity
    Out with passion
    Seems to green
    Take up jealousy
    What will that bring
    Surrender purity
    Don’t try so hard
    Live more transparently

    Is this your life
    Puppet games
    What a rag doll
    End it all
    Sacrificial flame
    The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!

    And I won't make the same mistakes
    (Because I know)
    Because I know how much time that wastes
    (And function)
    Function is the key
  • sistanumsy
    sistanumsy Posts: 218
    inspired??
    K-The lost will do their best to get home, if they are loved. To our soldiers who have given what they had.
  • sistanumsy wrote:
    inspired??

    huh
    .............
    The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!

    And I won't make the same mistakes
    (Because I know)
    Because I know how much time that wastes
    (And function)
    Function is the key
  • sistanumsy
    sistanumsy Posts: 218
    I read this anew???
    K-The lost will do their best to get home, if they are loved. To our soldiers who have given what they had.
  • sistanumsy wrote:
    I read this anew???

    first time Ive posted it yes
    The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!

    And I won't make the same mistakes
    (Because I know)
    Because I know how much time that wastes
    (And function)
    Function is the key
  • sistanumsy
    sistanumsy Posts: 218
    I had simply stated.:p
    K-The lost will do their best to get home, if they are loved. To our soldiers who have given what they had.
  • sistanumsy wrote:
    I had simply stated.:p

    confused I am yes

    lost also I am
    The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!

    And I won't make the same mistakes
    (Because I know)
    Because I know how much time that wastes
    (And function)
    Function is the key