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            sistanumsy wrote:Man this is such a great piece and yeah it does have an underlying layer. As I read it I found my self writing it too so here is what happened. If I changed it in your heart fealt meaning I apologize in advance.:o
 kings that rule can you see
 sit in the thrown with iron fist
 pounding on the arm causing fear
 control chaos, by decree they are real
 oh these prayers shall we try again
 to the unseen man whom has no name
 remember illusions are in his name
 your delusions his pawn to play
 he likes to plot to let it grow
 diversions come in so many ways
 he passes time you pass lifes way
 disposition of the unseen king
 it hides in shadows hides form you
 It hides in shadow would you follow
 if you ever saw the truth
 lay me down to comfort me
 where I go you will never see
 what I am what I'll be...
 where I'm at I'll feed this tree
 no more thinking, no more pain
 no more will eat the moment
 tasting that is is for real
 no more hopes, no more dreams,
 no more anger of what will never be
 no thoughts of empty days, no trying
 all hail eternal night
 no crying, or wonder to ponder
 return where we all come from
 In these moments nowhere to fade
 passing moments, end of game
 uninspired, ridiculed, so walk away
 no where to go to, so long now
 it's gone in memories so
 they'll wash away from time
 in these moments I let it go
 can't take it with me- nowhere
 in these moments it sinks on in
 nothing to die for why would I live
 in these moments no more to forgive
 and so shallow senseless game
 didn't want to join didn't want to play
 whatever lies whomever kills
 one who blesses, who helps a freind
 kindest heart passion of soul
 he who plunders who steals your gold
 it's all the same one final end
 rewards of heaven passed on to you
 keeping the law in trend
 feel inspired? are you in his game?
 is your mind trapped, desire to pray
 live it the way you want to-die
 clear your path, your own truth-die
 end the game the only one who plays-die
 fade away days, righteous, days-die
 he can never strike you down-lie
 lie to question convictions
 devotion is what has lead astray
 he who jesters lives their fate untold
 go on now and hang your head
 clasp your hands, bleed out the dread
 if it helps you sleep at night
 grasp at straws, hold the spirit tight
 go on now go hang your head
 is this your life or something you do
 to make your bed, rest on
 hope it comforts you, sleep
 feeling your soul is at ease
 breathe, let it go, now just release
 forgo his sanctity once you know
 " it's all make believe " so...
 still from the book sacred lies
 truths untold right before your eyes
 once walked a boy then was a man
 before his birth, healing spread the land
 kings bowed down aimed to please
 so, brainwashing control would lead
 empty words, fill, heaps and loads
 of crap to spread like weeds
 in spoken fears wrath to unfold
 so follow faith bow down in prayer
 to the no one who leads bow down
 in your head make their creature real
 final moments, not a sign, no regret
 you never had to fall in line
 final moments that fade away, where
 you will be resting there you shall stay
 no more weekends no holidays
 can't see sunshine all fades away
 no outstretched hand no big white gate
 you won't look down on ones who stayed
 not too hot not too cold nothing to feel
 when your feeding the world.
 looks good, tyThe only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!
 And I won't make the same mistakes
 (Because I know)
 Because I know how much time that wastes
 (And function)
 Function is the key0
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            twin1 wrote:O.k. aside from the obvious, this is what I got from it:
 we are all pawns in God's game - why would a loving God who teaches love allow suffering or give us "tests" - thus a question of his character; following someone who does things we are told not to do; mind-games; contradiction.
 regret for past mistakes and/or opportunities missed following and doing the "right thing", a love lost, etc.
 religion is a crutch for some to ease pain or justify themselves. it may be reason to exist/live. it is also a way for leaders to justify themselves and keep people in line/control.
 if you don't follow those truths and make your own way, you can get what you want without having to answer to anyone or give control to something/someone who may not exist.
 Is that kinda in line with it? Am I missing more to it? I liked that you could read different things into this poem and take it different ways. You do have a gift with that. 
 we are all pawns in God's game - why would a loving God who teaches love allow suffering or give us "tests" - thus a question of his character; following someone who does things we are told not to do; mind-games; contradiction.
 - freewill....God gave us free will, and essentially wanted us to make the decision to worship him. He put us here and wants us to idolize him. He gave us life so that we could live in awe of him.
 religion is a crutch for some to ease pain or justify themselves. it may be reason to exist/live. it is also a way for leaders to justify themselves and keep people in line/control.
 if you don't follow those truths and make your own way, you can get what you want without having to answer to anyone or give control to something/someone who may not exist.
 - this is one of my obvious points, sort of
 I am not saying god is not real...I am not saying he is. I don't know, but I do believe that at minimum leaders have marred God's world in effort to control...to create a sense of fear in people, and have them see that there are even greater consequences for their actions than they themself can hand out.
 God expects us to live our lives for him. I am having a hard time rememberring the exact line/passage, I will have to look it up later, but it states that gathering wood on sunday is a holy crime, that we should set sunday asside to focus on him.
 Personally I don't believe in a god, there is just no way he would not strike more people down for protesting against him. He would see wrongdoings of the churches and stop them. While we do have free will, we do not have the right of sin within the places of worship.
 This pieces has less to do with god, and more with freewill and abuse of powerThe only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!
 And I won't make the same mistakes
 (Because I know)
 Because I know how much time that wastes
 (And function)
 Function is the key0
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 So I guess you didn't care for it. No hard feelings I hope. I did get the whole choice contradiction. still love the piece.depopulationINC wrote:looks good, tyK-The lost will do their best to get home, if they are loved. To our soldiers who have given what they had.0
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            sistanumsy wrote:So I guess you didn't care for it. No hard feelings I hope. I did get the whole choice contradiction. still love the piece.
 no, I liked how your version flows. It was great.The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!
 And I won't make the same mistakes
 (Because I know)
 Because I know how much time that wastes
 (And function)
 Function is the key0
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            [quote="depopulationINC
 I am not saying god is not real...I am not saying he is. I don't know, but I do believe that at minimum leaders have marred God's world in effort to control...to create a sense of fear in people, and have them see that there are even greater consequences for their actions than they themself can hand out. -- I would have to agree with this regarding leaders taking advantage of people and using religion for control.
 God expects us to live our lives for him. I am having a hard time rememberring the exact line/passage, I will have to look it up later, but it states that gathering wood on sunday is a holy crime, that we should set sunday asside to focus on him. -- I am not familiar with that passage, could be, I gathered that God wants us to glorify him in all we do, every task and aspect of our lives, not just Sunday, would that count if you gathered wood and were thinking about him or singing him a song while doing it? 
 Personally I don't believe in a god, there is just no way he would not strike more people down for protesting against him. He would see wrongdoings of the churches and stop them. While we do have free will, we do not have the right of sin within the places of worship. -- there is good and bad in everyone and everything, why would that not exist in church? discernment and compassion go a long way.
 This pieces has less to do with god, and more with freewill and abuse of power[/quote"] -- good post and yes, I do see that...  Our love must not be just words, but True Love, which shows itself in action, Our love must not be just words, but True Love, which shows itself in action,
 No one needs a smile more than someone who fails to give one,
 After you die...you know how to LIVE!0
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            Oh but the world is divided and the stage is set for a great deciever to sit on the throne of the world and declare himself to be God. Believe in god? Don't believe?Don't know? The rich and powerfull in this world are dividing the human population in two. The world is taking sides. But we are cleverly fed an intricite, clever diet of t.v. and popular websites to dumb us down and numb us to the atrocities of world globalization. This great peice of writing pretty much speaks all my doubts about the modern world and the cosmos all together. As far as my fgirst reply ,depop, It was more in regards to what you wrote about your history in religion than the piece its'self.I took a walk so I could curse my ass for being dumb!!!
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            walkerlastgen1 wrote:Oh but the world is divided and the stage is set for a great deciever to sit on the throne of the world and declare himself to be God. Believe in god? Don't believe?Don't know? The rich and powerfull in this world are dividing the human population in two. The world is taking sides. But we are cleverly fed an intricite, clever diet of t.v. and popular websites to dumb us down and numb us to the atrocities of world globalization. This great peice of writing pretty much speaks all my doubts about the modern world and the cosmos all together. As far as my fgirst reply ,depop, It was more in regards to what you wrote about your history in religion than the piece its'self.
 Ahh, I see what you mean by religion history, yeah. And like I said, if somebody wants to believe in god, that is great. I may be wrong. It is impressive to see people stand by their convictions. I alson know many people that religion has trully saved.
 I really like how you stated the above. This is very close to what I was trying to write about. I never could have stated it that clearly though.
 Much of my writing is based on this subject...at least 40% I would say.The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!
 And I won't make the same mistakes
 (Because I know)
 Because I know how much time that wastes
 (And function)
 Function is the key0
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            walkerlastgen1 wrote:Oh but the world is divided and the stage is set for a great deciever to sit on the throne of the world and declare himself to be God. Believe in god? Don't believe?Don't know? The rich and powerfull in this world are dividing the human population in two. The world is taking sides. But we are cleverly fed an intricite, clever diet of t.v. and popular websites to dumb us down and numb us to the atrocities of world globalization. This great peice of writing pretty much speaks all my doubts about the modern world and the cosmos all together. As far as my fgirst reply ,depop, It was more in regards to what you wrote about your history in religion than the piece its'self.
 I would have to agree with this. It is very scary to see this division. It is everywhere though - in our backyards, we see it everyday. We can see it in children and how they are being raised. I am an idealist and greatly out numbered but I will always believe that peace and love can exist if people make that effort to adopt it. I do think we can make a difference in our own little corner of the world by making a choice to be different than the norm and standing by that, even when it hurts. I tell you though, it is hard work, just what my kids are taught in school and on t.v., it is all about looking out for #1 and what a person can gain. It starts young and there is a great moral decline. People look to follow who can give them the most with the least effort on their part. It is all a very real danger that we walk right into.Our love must not be just words, but True Love, which shows itself in action,
 No one needs a smile more than someone who fails to give one,
 After you die...you know how to LIVE!0
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            I know this sounds cliche' but "united we stand, divided we fall."I took a walk so I could curse my ass for being dumb!!!
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            Where?????K-The lost will do their best to get home, if they are loved. To our soldiers who have given what they had.0
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            huh??
 ...........The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!
 And I won't make the same mistakes
 (Because I know)
 Because I know how much time that wastes
 (And function)
 Function is the key0
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            I should have quoted Walkerlast...something funny I caught the end of it and was meaning it more of a challenge. Even if you are north of here the general idea of human kind 'united we stand'. Glad to hear the outcome.K-The lost will do their best to get home, if they are loved. To our soldiers who have given what they had.0
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            sistanumsy wrote:I should have quoted Walkerlast...something funny I caught the end of it and was meaning it more of a challenge. Even if you are north of here the general idea of human kind 'united we stand'. Glad to hear the outcome.
 Kinda the point I think, it is not united, but we choose where each one of us fall on that. Say "whatever, that is the way it is" or "I may not make much of a difference but I can still try". Our love must not be just words, but True Love, which shows itself in action, Our love must not be just words, but True Love, which shows itself in action,
 No one needs a smile more than someone who fails to give one,
 After you die...you know how to LIVE!0
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            Can you step aside
 Fuck it
 You can let it go
 You know
 If you want
 If you could
 Know you will
 No damn will
 Systematic
 Watch it fade
 Let it go
 In a moment
 Just let it all subside
 Bleeding souls
 From finger tips
 Fire’s breath
 Brings with fear
 Brings the angel’s grip
 Step away
 Let it all go
 Lighten your grasp
 Let it all drift
 Step away now
 Time to give in
 Haunting horrors
 Let them all in
 Is this your life
 Marionette
 Crave the deity
 Surrender purity
 And get handled
 Promised clarity
 Oh what vanity
 Ode to sacredity
 Out with passion
 Seems to green
 Take up jealousy
 What will that bring
 Surrender purity
 Don’t try so hard
 Live more transparently
 Is this your life
 Puppet games
 What a rag doll
 End it all
 Sacrificial flameThe only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!
 And I won't make the same mistakes
 (Because I know)
 Because I know how much time that wastes
 (And function)
 Function is the key0
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            inspired??K-The lost will do their best to get home, if they are loved. To our soldiers who have given what they had.0
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            The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!
 And I won't make the same mistakes
 (Because I know)
 Because I know how much time that wastes
 (And function)
 Function is the key0
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            I read this anew???K-The lost will do their best to get home, if they are loved. To our soldiers who have given what they had.0
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            sistanumsy wrote:I read this anew???
 first time Ive posted it yesThe only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!
 And I won't make the same mistakes
 (Because I know)
 Because I know how much time that wastes
 (And function)
 Function is the key0
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            I had simply stated.:pK-The lost will do their best to get home, if they are loved. To our soldiers who have given what they had.0
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            The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!
 And I won't make the same mistakes
 (Because I know)
 Because I know how much time that wastes
 (And function)
 Function is the key0
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