Jay-Z 1 - Noel Gallagher 0

I love Oasis, but its nice to see Noel get owned like that. His comments regarding Jay-Z were dumb.

Still though, I can't help but think that Noel just loved this response..you can never really take the oasis guys seriously in what they say anyways. He probably just wanted to get in the press and get a response, which he did.

Jeremy1012 wrote:

I hope you're not including Reasonable Doubt in that appraisal or I might have to rethink your thoughts on the only thing we agree on (hip-hop )

A few decent beats on it but his rapping is terrible.

I like Jay Z on record.......but live I just don't get that or any rappers performance as coming off too well. I went a few years ago to my one and only rap concert......it was Snoop Dogg and some other Dogg. He didn't really rap, just pretty much yelled like half of the lyrics over a pre-played recording of the songs. What irked me the most though was the 30 dudes on stage just going, "yeah" or "what" or "sucka" as every other word that Snoop rhymed. I don't know, rap just doesn't translate live for me.

There seems to be this outbreak in the media that Jay-Z was amazing at Glasto. Not so (I was there), now i'm not saying he was terrible because he wasn't, he was decent - but noway should he have been headlining (i'm not saying he shouldn't be at Glasto, note). Most of his material wasn't known to the crowd and his interaction was pretty low and the crowd itself was pretty low for a headlining act.

On saying that Jay-Z might have actually been the best headling act on the bill. King's of Leon was ok as well but certainly nothing special and the Verve were just utterly boring. This was a Glasto where the headliners were all bettered by the other bands of the bill.

Cropduster84 wrote:

The fact that Jay Z drew such a huge crowd and put on a stellar performance only serves to highlight how wrong Noel was....


More hip hop at Glasto I say, it can't always be whiney white boys with guitars.....

I heard it mentioned that this was the first year in quite some time where they didn't sell all the tickets prior to the start. Noel's comments were probably what a lot of people were thinking: pimp-rolling white boys with slanted baseball caps have their own places to go. Jay-z has his own agenda, namely, when a Shekel's a Shekel you don't give a fuck, P-Diddy style.

elmer wrote:

I heard it mentioned that this was the first year in quite some time where they didn't sell all the tickets prior to the start. Noel's comments were probably what a lot of people were thinking: pimp-rolling white boys with slanted baseball caps have their own places to go. Jay-z has his own agenda, namely, when a Shekel's a Shekel you don't give a fuck, P-Diddy style.

you've obviosuly never been to Glasto....or if you have cant have been around when the sugababes were on or fucking kellis, huge crowds and shite acts, people at Glasto will watch anything.....proved by Jay Z this year.

Seems like a decent guy (fromt he Jon Ross show) but my god I'm so not into his music, its an opinion, but to me it sucks fucking huge time...just a dude talking real quick over a few beats. BORING

dunkman wrote:

i think i read yesterday that Jay-zzzzzzzz's sales have slumped his appearance on Glasto... weirdly enough Wonderwall went back into the charts.

so yeah... Noel will be gutted :rolleyes:

Well, did you or did you not read this?

if true then this probably marks the beginning of the end for Jay-Z and for that matter all of hip-hop/rap

pdalowsky wrote:

you've obviosuly never been to Glasto....or if you have cant have been around when the sugababes were on or fucking kellis, huge crowds and shite acts, people at Glasto will watch anything.....proved by Jay Z this year.

Seems like a decent guy (fromt he Jon Ross show) but my god I'm so not into his music, its an opinion, but to me it sucks fucking huge time...just a dude talking real quick over a few beats. BORING

Right, I've never been. Just thought that a hip-hop act brings with it an aggro element not in keeping with the ethos of the festival. And yeah your're gonna get some assholes in any crowd but you know what I mean.

Whenever I see these rap-rock collaberations such as Jay-Z has been part of I wonder. It's like the white group (usually some nu-metal goth boys?) are after some street-cred whilst the rapper is counting on their fanbase buying into his music, so there's the risk of alienating his hip-hop audience slightly, but he's cajoled into it by his record company knowing the financial benefit lays firmly in his corner, not the rock group. Nothing wrong with that, and in some/most instances I may be mistaken, I just doubt what someone like Jay-Z has to say. I saw him on the Ross show and he did come across a nice enough fella though. So um, yeah

Jeremy1012 wrote:

agh.


Not liking hip-hop is fine but comments like that make people look so ignorant.

fair do's, that was wrong of me, I should know better...

I hate Hip hop thats all, it wears me down after two mins of hearing the same old shit being talked about so fucking fast I can barely catch a word, with their pants down and shaking fingers out in wierd motions.....I just dont get it...

but I'm sure many do so thats cool. It really pisses me off when someone says rock all sounds the same, so I've just committed the sin that I always get pissed about...oops.

Rage against the machine are perhaps the only metal rap thing that has ever truely blown me away