Nirvana Is Overrated!

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  • DocChicago
    DocChicago Posts: 653
    I've seen the "simplicity" of Nirvana songs repeatedly cited as a reason for dismissing their quality and/or importance. This is garbage. A simple song can be beautiful, but this is not always very easy to do. There are plenty of rock or punk bands out there who use the same chords as Nirvana songs but do not have the ear for melody that Cobain had.

    And if you're one of the Nirvana haters who has been sneering about "3-chord losers" and you like Whipping, Lukin, Satan's Bed, Brain of J, Save You, Habit, or any of PJ's other simple punk songs, then you're a bit of a hypocrite.
    It is time to admit that we used to rock like hurricanes. It is time to run for the hills and go round and round. It is time for us to shout at the devil. We've got the right to choose it, there ain't no way we'll lose it, and we're not gonna take it anymore.
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  • Klumpie
    Klumpie Posts: 2,649
    A little bit overrated, but someone have to do the dirty job!
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    Klumpie wrote:
    A little bit overrated, but someone have to do the dirty job!

    ha

    i guess...... but they shouldn't of got all that fame and shit. not saying fame is great and stuff, but they were seen as amazing, but they wern't if anyone heard soundgarden or alice in chaisn then they would have fainted
  • dCowboyPJ
    dCowboyPJ Posts: 479
    I use to be a pretty big Nirvana fan until I gave bands like Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, and Soungarden a listen and then I realized how overrated they were too. Now I have a hard time listening to them. They made ONE good studio album. I don't know how you can be so great only releasing one good album...
  • Klumpie
    Klumpie Posts: 2,649
    I BrisK I wrote:
    ha

    i guess...... but they shouldn't of got all that fame and shit. not saying fame is great and stuff, but they were seen as amazing, but they wern't if anyone heard soundgarden or alice in chaisn then they would have fainted

    There are so many better bands are out there. But I never knew them personally, because I was 7 years old at that time. But that they are overrated is clear, but I think 'the media' is the reason why they are so overrated.

    I don't think the members of Nirvana asked to be knewn as a fantastic superb perfect great band, but then agains I personally don't knew them good enough.
  • chris01
    chris01 Posts: 559
    Wow ive never seen a topic regarding Nirvana being over-rated before, very original.
    darthvedder81 wrote:
    Agreed. Had Cobain not died as tragically as he did they would never have been given so much credit.

    Comments like that really piss me off.

    No, Kurt wasnt a great guitarist, but he was an amazing song-writer, knew how to put a melody together and made catchy tunes that blew people away at the time.

    But you know, each to their own, thats your opinion.
  • Vedderman51
    Vedderman51 Posts: 606
    King Nothing wrote:
    I use to be a pretty big Nirvana fan until I gave bands like Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, and Soungarden a listen and then I realized how overrated they were too. Now I have a hard time listening to them. They made ONE good studio album. I don't know how you can be so great only releasing one good album...


    Exactly! couldn't have said it better myself
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Gremmie95 wrote:
    I always found it intersting that Soundgarden didn't get more credit for the Seattle movement. If I remember correctly they were jamming in '88, a full three years before the explosion.
    I think soundgarden actually formed in '84 or maybe '83. They certainly had songs on the deep six compilation in '85.
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  • Kraven
    Kraven Posts: 829
    1 good studio album? Are you on fucking crack or something? Every album was better than the last. Have you listened to In Utero or Bleach? Have you listened to Incesticide?

    Oh and Nirvana was formed in 1987 and the had been playing with each other sine 85, they weren't a fucking overnight success. Unlike a certain band...

    Want to know a fact? The album Ten did not start selling until Nevermind and Nirvana hit the scene. What does that say?

    Also three chords? Kurt has written some of the most melodic and beautiful songs I have ever heard... All Apologies? Pennyroyal Tea? Something in the Way? Heart Shaped Box?

    And who gives a fuck about simplicity? Do you think Corduroy or Not For You is the most complicated stuff? What about Alive? Thats just chords with the same repeated riff over it... What about Porch? What about Severed Hand?

    Give fucking respect where its due. And if they are overrated its not because Kurt was like we are fucking gods, its because media did it. Don't dismiss a band because the media says theyre great.

    Oh and read the fucking signature. That will give you Eddies feeling on it all.
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  • offhegoes09
    offhegoes09 Posts: 328
    Jeetz wrote:
    All I am saying is PJ would still be where the are today with or without Nirvana.

    Amen Brother
    "The whole world will be different soon"
  • Stelly
    Stelly Posts: 170
    Pixies > Nirvana
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    8/26/98 - Cleveland
    10/7/00 - Detroit
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  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    Jeetz wrote:
    From reading the previous thread on Kurt Cobains death that i now closed it got me thinking how truely overated Nirvana was. Kurt wrote simple 3 minute power pop songs. ( as described in previous thread). That werent all that great. But it is still very sad about his death and no one should joke about death and/or commiting suicide Anyway our beloved PJ is a true American rock band.. to me the greatest American band EVER! All I am saying is PJ would still be where the are today with or without Nirvana.


    Well the way he kept the songs simple is why he is so fucking brilliant. What do you want then, Steve Vai or Joe Satriani? That is not simple, but it sucks the worst.
    Listen to In utero that album is much more daring than anything Pearl jam ever did.
    Don't get me wrong with this I like Pearl jam way better than Nirvana. Pearl jam has warmth and the anger from the early days was more out of frustration because life could be so much better, where with Nirvana there isn't any hope. In Nirvana songs I hear acceptance that life sucks. Eddie is very passionate and Kurt was a cynic. That's why Pearl jam's music touches me in a deeper more profound manner.
    To say Nirvana is overrated, well I know you can’t debated taste, but if I could I’d say you don’t have a clue.
    « One man's glory is another man's hell.
    You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
    Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
    I took it upon me to be yours, Timmy,
    I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
  • melodyman22
    melodyman22 Posts: 326
    that person who said foo fighters is way better then nirvana get real i do like dave grohl but he cant sing or write songs half as good as kurt nirvana was awesome kurt was great
  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    melodyman22 wrote:
    that person who said foo fighters is way better then nirvana get real i do like dave grohl but he cant sing or write songs half as good as kurt nirvana was awesome kurt was great


    Well, I've talked about it, carried on, reasons are re-newed.

    I agree.
    « One man's glory is another man's hell.
    You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
    Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
    I took it upon me to be yours, Timmy,
    I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    so sick on vh1 and stuff seeing top 25 of the 90s and seeing nirvana at 1 with smells like teen spirit.

    i hate that song, its on every 10 minutes,its so lame!

    quit with the nirvana pleeeease and play some AIC!
  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    I have a lot of respect for everthing Kurt and Nirvana did, and I would never dismiss their music as rubbish, but that said, i'm not a huge fan.

    I find it very difficult to make an honest judgement of them, as the media hype them up even today. As someone said, songs like Smells Like Teen Spirit are on the "alternative" music channels a lot, and on a lot of programs to do with the best work of the 90's. I just think it's hard to honestly judge their music for these reasons, as I like to discover music without any preconceptions or expectations.

    Many, if not all, of my favourite bands have been discovered this way. Bands likes Alice In Chains and Soundgarden, along with Pearl Jam aswell, I only discovered a few years ago. I'd heard parts of songs from Alice In Chains and Soundgraden, thought they sounded good and investigated further. Very glad I did. The only reason I discovered Pearl Jam at all was because my sister heard me listening to these other bands and gave me a copy of Ten, and told me i'd like it.

    Maybe if I were a few years older and was around to see the impact Nirvana had on the music scene at the time, i'd have a better appreciation and understanding of their music, but as it is, I don't.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    King Nothing wrote:
    I use to be a pretty big Nirvana fan until I gave bands like Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, and Soungarden a listen and then I realized how overrated they were too. Now I have a hard time listening to them. They made ONE good studio album. I don't know how you can be so great only releasing one good album...

    and that ONE good studio album would be????????
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  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    catefrances wrote:
    and that ONE good studio album would be????????


    That is a good question. Hahaha
    I like an answer.
    « One man's glory is another man's hell.
    You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
    Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
    I took it upon me to be yours, Timmy,
    I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    audiodave wrote:
    I have a lot of respect for everthing Kurt and Nirvana did, and I would never dismiss their music as rubbish, but that said, i'm not a huge fan.

    I find it very difficult to make an honest judgement of them, as the media hype them up even today. As someone said, songs like Smells Like Teen Spirit are on the "alternative" music channels a lot, and on a lot of programs to do with the best work of the 90's. I just think it's hard to honestly judge their music for these reasons, as I like to discover music without any preconceptions or expectations.

    Many, if not all, of my favourite bands have been discovered this way. Bands likes Alice In Chains and Soundgarden, along with Pearl Jam aswell, I only discovered a few years ago. I'd heard parts of songs from Alice In Chains and Soundgraden, thought they sounded good and investigated further. Very glad I did. The only reason I discovered Pearl Jam at all was because my sister heard me listening to these other bands and gave me a copy of Ten, and told me i'd like it.

    Maybe if I were a few years older and was around to see the impact Nirvana had on the music scene at the time, i'd have a better appreciation and understanding of their music, but as it is, I don't.


    Nirvana is the billboard for most people. They know nirvana and then discover what's beyond that. Just like the Beatles were for their time. Read Kurt's lyrics and you will definitely find some jewels in there. I think this whole thread is just too bizarre. Nirvana is a very good band. With 2 really good album an interesting Insecticide and a masterpiece that's called In utero.
    I'm a Beatles man myself, but it would be silly of me to argue that the Stones were overrated, just for that reason.
    OK Nirvana was a hype, so what? That does not mean it isn't any good. Do you guys really think Sonic youth would like Nirvana if it sucked?
    And to you Audiodave I say you will find that they are a good band, and Kurt was a skilled songwriter if you just take a serious listen.
    « One man's glory is another man's hell.
    You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
    Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
    I took it upon me to be yours, Timmy,
    I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    karma defect wrote:
    . ...........and a masterpiece that's called In utero.


    i knew there was a reason i liked you karma.:) :)
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