What a sellout!!!

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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    aNiMaL wrote:
    As a kid I first knew the song "Good Vibrations" as the Orange Crush song. When I heard The Beach Boys version I honestly originally thought they stole or took the song from Orange Crush. What an idiot.

    See right there is the problem I have with artists allowing there music to be used in commercials. And you're not an idiot. Why would you have known any different. They should put the name of the song and the artist on the ads that use popular songs like on MTV (well when they used to show videos).

    And Gwen hasn't sold out - she's gone fuckin' nuts. :(
  • angryyoungman
    angryyoungman Medford, NY Posts: 1,028
    i love the term "sellout" when used in the right way. . .it is overused though. . .and gwen stefani was a sellout long before her appearance on american idol
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    finally, FUCK TICKETMASTER
  • angryyoungman
    angryyoungman Medford, NY Posts: 1,028
    when you are an artist and you do something that is questionable artistically speaking you should be called out on it. . .and that goes for bands i like too. (ex. the who, who've lost alot of credibility in my book with all the commercials and tv show jingles. REALLY lame. im still a fan though, some of the songs loss there original meaning though when you hear them constantly to sell something)
    i have wished for so long, how i wish for you today
    JEFFREY ROSS ROGERS 1975-2002

    9.10.98 NYC / 8.23.00 JONES BEACH /4.30.03 UNIONDALE / 7.9.03 NYC /5.12.06 ALBANY/ 6.1.06 E.RUTHEFORD/ 6.3.06 E. RUTHEFORD/ CAMDEN 6.19.08/ NYC 6.24.08/ NYC 6.25.08/ HARTFORD 6.27.08/ CHICAGO 8.24.09/ PHILLY 10.31.09/ HARTFORD 5.15.10/ NEWARK 5.18.10/ NYC 5.20.10/ CHICAGO 7.19.13/ BROOKLYN 10.18.13/ BROOKLYN 10.19.13/ HARTFORD 10.25.13/ NYC 9.26.15/ 4.8.16 FT. LAUDERDALE/ 4.9.16 MIAMI / 5.1.16 NYC/ 5.2.16 NYC / 8.5.16 BOSTON / 8.7.16 BOSTON/ 8.20.18 CHICAGO/ 9.2.18 BOSTON/ 9.4.18 BOSTON/ 9.18.21 ASBURY PARK

    finally, FUCK TICKETMASTER
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    angryyoungman wrote:
    when you are an artist and you do something that is questionable artistically speaking you should be called out on it. . .and that goes for bands i like too. (ex. the who, who've lost alot of credibility in my book with all the commercials and tv show jingles. REALLY lame. im still a fan though, some of the songs loss there original meaning though when you hear them constantly to sell something)
    For a while there, I could hardly stand to listen to The Who or Led Zeppelin anymore. Then I stopped watching tv, and now I can enjoy them again :)
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    hippiemom wrote:
    For a while there, I could hardly stand to listen to The Who or Led Zeppelin anymore. Then I stopped watching tv, and now I can enjoy them again :)

    Especially LZ. It's gonna take a while before I stop associating them with a fucking Cadillac. :(
  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    I agree with you..people need to lighten up.
    These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
  • run_into_the_rain
    run_into_the_rain Posts: 93
    I only read the first line of the origonal post but I know where you are coming
    from. I was just thinking about posting about this. "sellout" is the most rediculous term in the industry. Every time a band changes its sound or image or goes mainstream, they are labeled as this. such bullshit



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  • NickyNooch
    NickyNooch Posts: 629
    I normally would have your back in this conversation, but then I'm an old AFI fan.

    They sold out.

    Any old school AFI fan knows exactly what I'm talking about. The dramatic change from NITRO to major label, definately made them take their music in a terrible direction.

    My point being, there are cases where a band selling out is simply fact. They sold their musical integrity to hot topic :(

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  • lars
    lars Posts: 524
    darthvedder88 wrote:
    Great thread. Whoever started this thread has balls!!!
    Brave yet stupid
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  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    yeah i dunno about that...their is only so far you could get with a small record label. If your looking to get more exposure you need to major one. It's unfortunate but it seems to be the case. Im an AFI fan...and I really don't see how them moving on to dreamworks matters. Although AOD is still my fav. album...they've yet to really make that one breakout one...imo
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    lowlight10 wrote:
    dude, if i looked like cornell, i'd be modeling too. and if i was in the shape that kravitz is in, i'd probably do most videos with my shirt off. and i'm a very straight guy.

    we have to remember that these people dont create the pedestal that the media and fans put them on. fans, especially on this board, are always freakin out about seeing mike on the street or planning on how they can meet the band. they're just people. theyre very talented artists, but still human. they have tastes, desires, habits, just like you and me. the ridiculous expectations and limits that you put on them, in my eyes, is a reflection on you, not them.

    i expect nothing more than that musicians earn their accolades based on their music, not their looks.
  • Nothingbetter
    Nothingbetter Wichita, KS Posts: 570
    Being a sell out is letting others dictate what you do with your career. As long as you are staying true to what YOU want to do, and your expression as an artist, you aren't selling out.

    Be heard.
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  • run_into_the_rain
    run_into_the_rain Posts: 93
    libragirl wrote:
    yeah i dunno about that...their is only so far you could get with a small record label. If your looking to get more exposure you need to major one. It's unfortunate but it seems to be the case. Im an AFI fan...and I really don't see how them moving on to dreamworks matters. Although AOD is still my fav. album...they've yet to really make that one breakout one...imo

    I don't think that record swithching record labels schouldn't be considered selling out( keep in mind I think the term is bullshit). Switching up record labels is a good buisness move. The bigger the more to offer. It is all about money.



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  • seagoat2
    seagoat2 Posts: 241
    Yes, I agree.....relax ppl.....sellout, shmellout - People have families to support.

    Having said that, I really don't want to see a PJ song in a car commercial....there are ways to protect your talent & use it in a way that's not silly or greedy...whatever.
  • hailhail82
    hailhail82 Posts: 330
    darthvedder88 wrote:
    Whoever started this thread has balls!!!

    It doesn't take balls to make an anonymous complaint on a message board about what other anonymous people say about celebrities and musicians.
    Using the word "methinks" in your message board posts doesn't make you look smart.
  • lowlight10
    lowlight10 Posts: 619
    soulsinging wrote:
    i expect nothing more than that musicians earn their accolades based on their music, not their looks.

    what accolades?
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    lowlight10 wrote:
    what accolades?

    fame, respect, attention, promotion, reverence... pick your word. artists should have their art judged on its merit, not by how good their ass looks in CK jeans.
  • drivingrl
    drivingrl Posts: 1,448
    Pearls&Stones wrote:
    I don't think Gwen Stefani is a sellout for giving advice for the kids on American Idol anymore than I think the Rolling Stones sold out for doing Ed Sullivan's show.

    People really need to lighten up.

    No, I'm sorry, but I have to put my foot down when it comes to Gwen Stefani. She is a sell out.

    Granted, Gwen Stefani has only ever written one song - from one of my favorite records 'Return of Saturn' - but at least when she was lead singer of No Doubt there was something behind her lyrics. The band wrote the music, she wrote the lyrics, and the lyrics were honest and heart-felt because they came from her moments of joy and moments of suffering.

    What does Gwen Stefani write about now? Being a hollaback girl? "Cleaning out Vivienne Westwood in her Galiano gown?" One of two things is happening here: 1. Gwen Stefani has thrown away the opportunity to write the same heart-felt songs she had been writing for years and traded in that opportunity to make lots of money and a fucking fashion line or 2. The "music" she "makes" now is a reflection of her true self, and the songs she's contributed to previously were a sham.

    I don't know which idea is more heartbreaking, quite honestly.
    drivingrl: "Will I ever get to meet Gwen Stefani?"
    kevinbeetle: "Yes. When her career washes up and her and Gavin move to Galveston, you will meet her at Hot Topic shopping for a Japanese cheerleader outfit.

    Next!"
  • lowlight10
    lowlight10 Posts: 619
    soulsinging wrote:
    fame, respect, attention, promotion, reverence... pick your word. artists should have their art judged on its merit, not by how good their ass looks in CK jeans.

    come on man, be realistic! granted, these things increase exposure, but we live in a superficial world. i think youre letting your thoughts about certain actions, like modeling, affect your feelings about the art. its not like he's out there marketing cigarettes or child porn. if you think any art is judged 100% on its merit, youre kidding yourself.

    personally, it doesnt bother me. if pearl jam has to promote their record in order to get more independence/options with other things, thats fine. if they talk to that rag rolling stone just because they want to talk, thats fine. they can do what they want, when they want. theyve earned that freedom.

    i love PJ as much as the next guy and have followed them religiously for the last 14 years, and will continue to do so until the day i die, but you cant be so over-protective of it. its unrealistic and youre setting yourself up for a letdown.
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  • lowlight10
    lowlight10 Posts: 619
    gwen sucks. still.
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