Nirvana, Soundgarden, or Alice in Chains

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  • Soundgarden
    AIC
    who is the other band..

    i still believe to this day that nirvana would not have the longevity that PJ has today if they were still around imo.
    98- 9/8.9/10.9/11
    00- 8/3, 8/4, 9/1.9/2
    03- 4/28. 7/8. 7/9. 7/14
    04- 10/1
    05- 10/3
    06- 5/4!!!!, 5/12. 5/13. 5/27, 5/28, 6/1, 6/3
    08- 6/19, 6/20, 6/22, 6/25, 6/27, 8/4
  • Cameron124
    Cameron124 Posts: 139
    Soundgarden, Alice in Chains...and then comes Screaming Trees, Mudhoney
    and on the very last place, Nirvana :)

    I hated so fuckin much when Kurt called PJ sellouts, when they sold 2 years ago from that interview
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Since Alice often vie for first place even with PJ I'm gonna go Alice with soundgarden second and nirvana trailng behind. Everything about Alice was perfect for me. I was more of a fan of Mike Starr's bass playing and he was cooler than Inez but still Inez is awesome. Jerry is unspeakably talented and it would take me forever to explain his innate awesomeness. Sean is one of the best drummers I've heard and I listen to Billy Cobham, Danny Carey, Dave Lombardo et al. His use of unusual effects is brilliant.

    Then we have Layne... This dude was beyond words for me. Not even Ed comes close. Pearl Jam are my favourite band right now but Layne is my absolute idol and always will be. The most fascinating human being I've ever come cross.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Cameron124 wrote:
    Soundgarden, Alice in Chains...and then comes Screaming Trees, Mudhoney
    and on the very last place, Nirvana :)

    I hated so fuckin much when Kurt called PJ sellouts, when they sold 2 years ago from that interview
    and if you check out Kurt's journals, he says he likes green river (writing pre-nirvana I believe) so to call PJ bandwagon-jumpers is the utmost hypocrisy.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • I think its like choosing a favorite child.

    To me, the whole grunge scene was the last great rock music that has been created, the last great music movement.

    To me its impossible to say one is better than the other.

    They all are great.

    Alice's Dirt was mindblowing, and I credit it, at least in some ways for being the reason I never did drugs. Nutshell is one of the most chilling songs ever. Alice had this whole feel to them. Very dark, and loud

    Soundgarden, Bad Motor finger and Superunknown are classics. To me Black hole sun after kurts death was powerful. Jesus Christ Pose and The Day I tried to Live are mindblowing

    Nirvana, what can you say. Whether anyone else feels this way, Kurt was a spokesman for me. He spoke to and about me. Something in the Way, Polly, Sliver, etc... just mindblowing songs. Very simple yet powerful. He was extremely talented.

    So for me, its not about one band, it was about the whole scene.

    It makes me wish there was good music coming out right now, a whole scene going on. I mean these alternative rock stations that got money and were built off the hard work of these bands, now rarely if ever plays any of the bands listed.

    I would guess I am not alone in my sentiments about the early 90's being the last time of great music. There just was a feeling about it all. Like you were witnessing history.

    I also find it funny, there is so much nirvana and Kurt hatred on the board. Ed has said Kurt was a huge influence, and that he wouldnt be here if it wasnt for Kurt.

    Kurt wasnt god, but in my mind, he was a special person.

    Just look at after he died, 4,000 gathered at that vigil. He clearly meant something to many people.

    Alice, Soundgarden, and Nirvana changed my life. Plain and simple. I am who I am, because of that music.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170

    Just look at after he died, 4,000 gathered at that vigil. He clearly meant something to many people.
    and yet only 200 made it to Layne's. A man of infinitely greater talent...
    Sorry, not insulting Kurt here but that always gets me.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • mozman88
    mozman88 Posts: 38
    Alice in Chains tied with Soundgarden for first.

    Nirvana in 10th.

    2000 - Indianapolis(8/18)
    2003 - Champaign(4/23), Indianapolis(6/22),
    Columbus(6/24), Hershey(7/12)
    2006 - Chicago (5/16), Chicago (5/17), Cincinnati (6/24)
    2007 - Vic -Chicago (8/2), Lollapalooza - Chicago (8/5)
  • Alice in Chains dude
    but all three are awesome and no longer bands....which is a shame!
    I'd like to quote something but it is just too vast a field to narrow anything down to as "my favorite".

    I love you Pearl Jam - simple as that
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    and yet only 200 made it to Layne's. A man of infinitely greater talent...
    Sorry, not insulting Kurt here but that always gets me.


    I'm a strong believer that (though i'm a very very big fan of his and respect how important his contributions to music) Kurt Cobain is vastly overrated as a musician. That being said, I wouldn't go as far as to say that Layne is of infinitely greater talent than him. While Layne (in my opinion) has a better voice than Kurt, he didn't write the majority of Alice's lyrics, Cantrell did. Kind of hurts him in a discussion comparing him to Cobain. Roger Daltry vs. Robert Plant would be a similar debate since Roger wrote very little (if any) lyrics for the Who and Plant wrote all of Zeppelin's lyrics (except remakes like When the Levee breaks and Tagerine and Dazed and confused, as page wrote those lyrics)
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

    Pearl Jam bootlegs:
    http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
  • I am not suggesting that the man with the most people at his funeral is so mcuh greater than anyone else. That wasnt the point of the post.

    I just pick up on the antinirvana and antikurt hatred on the board.

    I was just suggesting that I am not the only one who thought the band and kurt was special.

    Layne was special as well. No doubt. But to me at least Kurt more symbolized what I was and am going through. The teen angst, angry at parents thing was, and still is what I am going through, and Kurt tapped into that.

    As I referenced above, layne was a beautiful singer and lyricist.
    And without him, who knows maybe I would be a drug user.

    But I dont know if Layne or Kurt was more talented. They both were talented. They both died too young.

    Its hard to explain, but when it comes down to it, when you grow up in an abusive household, and your angry at parents, I gravitate more toward Kurt's lyrics than Laynes.

    Thats what I was trying to point out, whether people on here like it or not, Kurt and Eddie tapped into the angry youth in the 90's, I was one of them.
    Layne wasnt writing from the point of view of an abused kid. His stories and words are no less powerful, they just are from a different view.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    I'm a strong believer that (though i'm a very very big fan of his and respect how important his contributions to music) Kurt Cobain is vastly overrated as a musician. That being said, I wouldn't go as far as to say that Layne is of infinitely greater talent than him. While Layne (in my opinion) has a better voice than Kurt, he didn't write the majority of Alice's lyrics, Cantrell did. Kind of hurts him in a discussion comparing him to Cobain. Roger Daltry vs. Robert Plant would be a similar debate since Roger wrote very little (if any) lyrics for the Who and Plant wrote all of Zeppelin's lyrics (except remakes like When the Levee breaks and Tagerine and Dazed and confused, as page wrote those lyrics)
    well the voice is an instrument. If jimi hendrix was talented as a guitarist, Layne was talented as a vocalist (Love, hate, love live anyone?) but more than that, Layne wrote the majority of jar of flies' lyrics as well as most of tripod and some of the best songs on facelift and dirt. I always felt Kurt's lyrics were too disjointed and random.
    Anyone can sham some arty, imaginative sounding lyrics which sound cool but mean very little. Layne meanwhile wrote songs like Nutshell and River of deceit, songs which penetrate into your soul. I'm sorry if that sounds melodramatic but it's true. I genuinely think that Layne's songwriting (as well as his singing) is vastly underrated. I mean this lyric from long gone day for example means everything in the world to me right now, given that I miss friends who I haven't seen in 7 months and now they are falling out and god knows when I'll be together with them all again. I've never related to Kurt like that.

    from Mad season's Long Gone day

    "who ever said
    We wash away with the rain
    See you all from time to time
    Isn't it so strange
    How far away we all are now
    Am I the only one who remembers that summer
    Oh, I remember
    Everyday each time the place was saved
    The music that we made
    The wind has carried all of that away
    Long gone day"
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    aic...........
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • Nirvana. Easiest choice I've ever had to make.
    "I'll end up alone like I began..."

    "You need the patience of like a National Geographic photographer sitting underneath the bush in a tent, trying to get a picture of zebras fucking or something for the first time." -Eddie Vedder
  • AIC then SG and Nirvana a distant third
    4/19/92, 11/23/93, 6/14/98, 7/5/98, 10/17/00, 4/3/03, 6/9/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    I am not suggesting that the man with the most people at his funeral is so mcuh greater than anyone else. That wasnt the point of the post.

    .
    Sorry dude I wasn't suggesting you were I was just airing a thought I've had for some time :D
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Alice in Chains!!!
  • alice in chains rip layne staley
    threatened by shadows at night, and exposed in the light shine on you crazy diamond
  • Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Nirvana.
    7/11/95, 6/29/98, 10/09/00, 6/18/03, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 8/05/07
  • HermanBloom
    HermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    Nirvana did something that no other band from Seattle did. Cobain was a musical genius, yet not super talented instrumentally. Soundgarden was the most talented; however, I am soured by Cornell as of late. Still so thankful that PJ got their best member. Alice in Chains is great, yet often overlooked. I have to go with .......Pearl Jam.
    SLC 11/2/95, Park City 6/21/98, Boise 11/3/00, Seattle 12/9/02, Vancouver 5/30/03, Gorge 9/1/05, Vancouver 9/2/05, Gorge 7/22/06, Gorge 7/23/06, Camden I 6/19/08, MSG I 6/24/08, MSG II 6/25/08, Hartford 6/27/08, Mansfield II 6/30/08; Eddie Albany 6/8/09, 6/9/09; Philly 10/30/09, 10/31/09; Boston 5/17/10
    I thought the world...Turns out the world thought me
  • Soundgarden, by far.
    I do love all three bands but none more than Soundgarden. They are my faviourite band. Matt Camerons drumming inspired me to drum (and listen to pearl Jam). Kim Thayil is truely my hero, i cant get enough of the mans awsomeness, some of his guitar was amazing. Ben Shepard had some mighty Bass lines and god didthey fit the music. TheN Chris Cornell, well he is cool as hell and some of the words he wrote really drive home with me.

    So Soundgarden, they be amazing, my username here is a homage to them.
    i so wish they were still together.

    I do have quiet possibly the greatest Soundgarden poster on my wall of a skeleton on the cross, its huge, and awsome.