Over the years I have grown to like Nirvana a lot more, but the other 2 have blown me away for a while. No matter the rankings, I was quite upset to see all 3 bands meet an early demise for one reason or another. Seem slike most bands from that time, except Pearl Jam, have faded away or no longer exist.
As much as I love and respect them all, Soundgarden takes it for me. Soundgarden and Pearl Jam have always held the top spot for me and there is such an undying love and not to mention the sheer brilliance of that band..definitely there. However, Alice in Chains and their ways of incorporating the darkness and yet giving that illumination off was incredible. and of course Nirvana, with their writhing passion for what was being done..each and all i love, But I will give it to Soundgarden by all means.
"Everyone wants to be the sun that lights up your life, but I'd rather be your moon so I can shine on you during your darkest hour when your sun's not around."
Soundgarden all the way. No one compares to Chris Cornell. He's awesome, even with Audioslave. All of Soundgarden's albums rock. AIC would be my 2nd pick, and Nirvana... I never ever really liked them. Still don't.
Alice in Chains were better than the other two for sure. Much better and writing and singing melodies than most of their contemporaries. Soundgarden is great too but have too much of a Judas Priest vocal thing going on for me to listen to all the time. Don't get me wrong, songs like Outshined and Fell on Black Days are great. Nirvana = most overrated band of all time. Probably gonna get some feedback on that one but I stick to my guns on this issue. Nevermind as one of the top albums of all time? Fuck that.
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Since Alice often vie for first place even with PJ I'm gonna go Alice with soundgarden second and nirvana trailng behind. Everything about Alice was perfect for me. I was more of a fan of Mike Starr's bass playing and he was cooler than Inez but still Inez is awesome. Jerry is unspeakably talented and it would take me forever to explain his innate awesomeness. Sean is one of the best drummers I've heard and I listen to Billy Cobham, Danny Carey, Dave Lombardo et al. His use of unusual effects is brilliant.
Then we have Layne... This dude was beyond words for me. Not even Ed comes close. Pearl Jam are my favourite band right now but Layne is my absolute idol and always will be. The most fascinating human being I've ever come cross.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Soundgarden, Alice in Chains...and then comes Screaming Trees, Mudhoney
and on the very last place, Nirvana
I hated so fuckin much when Kurt called PJ sellouts, when they sold 2 years ago from that interview
and if you check out Kurt's journals, he says he likes green river (writing pre-nirvana I believe) so to call PJ bandwagon-jumpers is the utmost hypocrisy.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
To me, the whole grunge scene was the last great rock music that has been created, the last great music movement.
To me its impossible to say one is better than the other.
They all are great.
Alice's Dirt was mindblowing, and I credit it, at least in some ways for being the reason I never did drugs. Nutshell is one of the most chilling songs ever. Alice had this whole feel to them. Very dark, and loud
Soundgarden, Bad Motor finger and Superunknown are classics. To me Black hole sun after kurts death was powerful. Jesus Christ Pose and The Day I tried to Live are mindblowing
Nirvana, what can you say. Whether anyone else feels this way, Kurt was a spokesman for me. He spoke to and about me. Something in the Way, Polly, Sliver, etc... just mindblowing songs. Very simple yet powerful. He was extremely talented.
So for me, its not about one band, it was about the whole scene.
It makes me wish there was good music coming out right now, a whole scene going on. I mean these alternative rock stations that got money and were built off the hard work of these bands, now rarely if ever plays any of the bands listed.
I would guess I am not alone in my sentiments about the early 90's being the last time of great music. There just was a feeling about it all. Like you were witnessing history.
I also find it funny, there is so much nirvana and Kurt hatred on the board. Ed has said Kurt was a huge influence, and that he wouldnt be here if it wasnt for Kurt.
Kurt wasnt god, but in my mind, he was a special person.
Just look at after he died, 4,000 gathered at that vigil. He clearly meant something to many people.
Alice, Soundgarden, and Nirvana changed my life. Plain and simple. I am who I am, because of that music.
Just look at after he died, 4,000 gathered at that vigil. He clearly meant something to many people.
and yet only 200 made it to Layne's. A man of infinitely greater talent...
Sorry, not insulting Kurt here but that always gets me.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
and yet only 200 made it to Layne's. A man of infinitely greater talent...
Sorry, not insulting Kurt here but that always gets me.
I'm a strong believer that (though i'm a very very big fan of his and respect how important his contributions to music) Kurt Cobain is vastly overrated as a musician. That being said, I wouldn't go as far as to say that Layne is of infinitely greater talent than him. While Layne (in my opinion) has a better voice than Kurt, he didn't write the majority of Alice's lyrics, Cantrell did. Kind of hurts him in a discussion comparing him to Cobain. Roger Daltry vs. Robert Plant would be a similar debate since Roger wrote very little (if any) lyrics for the Who and Plant wrote all of Zeppelin's lyrics (except remakes like When the Levee breaks and Tagerine and Dazed and confused, as page wrote those lyrics)
I am not suggesting that the man with the most people at his funeral is so mcuh greater than anyone else. That wasnt the point of the post.
I just pick up on the antinirvana and antikurt hatred on the board.
I was just suggesting that I am not the only one who thought the band and kurt was special.
Layne was special as well. No doubt. But to me at least Kurt more symbolized what I was and am going through. The teen angst, angry at parents thing was, and still is what I am going through, and Kurt tapped into that.
As I referenced above, layne was a beautiful singer and lyricist.
And without him, who knows maybe I would be a drug user.
But I dont know if Layne or Kurt was more talented. They both were talented. They both died too young.
Its hard to explain, but when it comes down to it, when you grow up in an abusive household, and your angry at parents, I gravitate more toward Kurt's lyrics than Laynes.
Thats what I was trying to point out, whether people on here like it or not, Kurt and Eddie tapped into the angry youth in the 90's, I was one of them.
Layne wasnt writing from the point of view of an abused kid. His stories and words are no less powerful, they just are from a different view.
I'm a strong believer that (though i'm a very very big fan of his and respect how important his contributions to music) Kurt Cobain is vastly overrated as a musician. That being said, I wouldn't go as far as to say that Layne is of infinitely greater talent than him. While Layne (in my opinion) has a better voice than Kurt, he didn't write the majority of Alice's lyrics, Cantrell did. Kind of hurts him in a discussion comparing him to Cobain. Roger Daltry vs. Robert Plant would be a similar debate since Roger wrote very little (if any) lyrics for the Who and Plant wrote all of Zeppelin's lyrics (except remakes like When the Levee breaks and Tagerine and Dazed and confused, as page wrote those lyrics)
well the voice is an instrument. If jimi hendrix was talented as a guitarist, Layne was talented as a vocalist (Love, hate, love live anyone?) but more than that, Layne wrote the majority of jar of flies' lyrics as well as most of tripod and some of the best songs on facelift and dirt. I always felt Kurt's lyrics were too disjointed and random.
Anyone can sham some arty, imaginative sounding lyrics which sound cool but mean very little. Layne meanwhile wrote songs like Nutshell and River of deceit, songs which penetrate into your soul. I'm sorry if that sounds melodramatic but it's true. I genuinely think that Layne's songwriting (as well as his singing) is vastly underrated. I mean this lyric from long gone day for example means everything in the world to me right now, given that I miss friends who I haven't seen in 7 months and now they are falling out and god knows when I'll be together with them all again. I've never related to Kurt like that.
from Mad season's Long Gone day
"who ever said
We wash away with the rain
See you all from time to time
Isn't it so strange
How far away we all are now
Am I the only one who remembers that summer
Oh, I remember
Everyday each time the place was saved
The music that we made
The wind has carried all of that away
Long gone day"
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
"You need the patience of like a National Geographic photographer sitting underneath the bush in a tent, trying to get a picture of zebras fucking or something for the first time." -Eddie Vedder
I am not suggesting that the man with the most people at his funeral is so mcuh greater than anyone else. That wasnt the point of the post.
.
Sorry dude I wasn't suggesting you were I was just airing a thought I've had for some time
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Nirvana did something that no other band from Seattle did. Cobain was a musical genius, yet not super talented instrumentally. Soundgarden was the most talented; however, I am soured by Cornell as of late. Still so thankful that PJ got their best member. Alice in Chains is great, yet often overlooked. I have to go with .......Pearl Jam.
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Soundgarden, by far.
I do love all three bands but none more than Soundgarden. They are my faviourite band. Matt Camerons drumming inspired me to drum (and listen to pearl Jam). Kim Thayil is truely my hero, i cant get enough of the mans awsomeness, some of his guitar was amazing. Ben Shepard had some mighty Bass lines and god didthey fit the music. TheN Chris Cornell, well he is cool as hell and some of the words he wrote really drive home with me.
So Soundgarden, they be amazing, my username here is a homage to them.
i so wish they were still together.
I do have quiet possibly the greatest Soundgarden poster on my wall of a skeleton on the cross, its huge, and awsome.
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Over the years I have grown to like Nirvana a lot more, but the other 2 have blown me away for a while. No matter the rankings, I was quite upset to see all 3 bands meet an early demise for one reason or another. Seem slike most bands from that time, except Pearl Jam, have faded away or no longer exist.
I still feel that DIRT was the true culmination of all that was good
about Grunge/Seattle Music at that time. No two songs sound alike.
I mean, think about this - Sick Man and Would? are on the Same album.
Down in a Hole and Angry Chair are on the album as well.
Them Bones, Rooster, and it goes on and on.
And I think my favorite song of all time is Rain When I Die.
And their first four releases are all just so awesome:
Facelift
Sap
DIRT
Jar of Flies
AIC without a doubt.
I don't think it gets much better than Down in a Hole unplugged.
respect nirvana too, just like AIC and SG more
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AIC
who is the other band..
i still believe to this day that nirvana would not have the longevity that PJ has today if they were still around imo.
00- 8/3, 8/4, 9/1.9/2
03- 4/28. 7/8. 7/9. 7/14
04- 10/1
05- 10/3
06- 5/4!!!!, 5/12. 5/13. 5/27, 5/28, 6/1, 6/3
08- 6/19, 6/20, 6/22, 6/25, 6/27, 8/4
and on the very last place, Nirvana
I hated so fuckin much when Kurt called PJ sellouts, when they sold 2 years ago from that interview
Then we have Layne... This dude was beyond words for me. Not even Ed comes close. Pearl Jam are my favourite band right now but Layne is my absolute idol and always will be. The most fascinating human being I've ever come cross.
To me, the whole grunge scene was the last great rock music that has been created, the last great music movement.
To me its impossible to say one is better than the other.
They all are great.
Alice's Dirt was mindblowing, and I credit it, at least in some ways for being the reason I never did drugs. Nutshell is one of the most chilling songs ever. Alice had this whole feel to them. Very dark, and loud
Soundgarden, Bad Motor finger and Superunknown are classics. To me Black hole sun after kurts death was powerful. Jesus Christ Pose and The Day I tried to Live are mindblowing
Nirvana, what can you say. Whether anyone else feels this way, Kurt was a spokesman for me. He spoke to and about me. Something in the Way, Polly, Sliver, etc... just mindblowing songs. Very simple yet powerful. He was extremely talented.
So for me, its not about one band, it was about the whole scene.
It makes me wish there was good music coming out right now, a whole scene going on. I mean these alternative rock stations that got money and were built off the hard work of these bands, now rarely if ever plays any of the bands listed.
I would guess I am not alone in my sentiments about the early 90's being the last time of great music. There just was a feeling about it all. Like you were witnessing history.
I also find it funny, there is so much nirvana and Kurt hatred on the board. Ed has said Kurt was a huge influence, and that he wouldnt be here if it wasnt for Kurt.
Kurt wasnt god, but in my mind, he was a special person.
Just look at after he died, 4,000 gathered at that vigil. He clearly meant something to many people.
Alice, Soundgarden, and Nirvana changed my life. Plain and simple. I am who I am, because of that music.
Sorry, not insulting Kurt here but that always gets me.
Nirvana in 10th.
2000 - Indianapolis(8/18)
2003 - Champaign(4/23), Indianapolis(6/22),
Columbus(6/24), Hershey(7/12)
2006 - Chicago (5/16), Chicago (5/17), Cincinnati (6/24)
2007 - Vic -Chicago (8/2), Lollapalooza - Chicago (8/5)
but all three are awesome and no longer bands....which is a shame!
I love you Pearl Jam - simple as that
I'm a strong believer that (though i'm a very very big fan of his and respect how important his contributions to music) Kurt Cobain is vastly overrated as a musician. That being said, I wouldn't go as far as to say that Layne is of infinitely greater talent than him. While Layne (in my opinion) has a better voice than Kurt, he didn't write the majority of Alice's lyrics, Cantrell did. Kind of hurts him in a discussion comparing him to Cobain. Roger Daltry vs. Robert Plant would be a similar debate since Roger wrote very little (if any) lyrics for the Who and Plant wrote all of Zeppelin's lyrics (except remakes like When the Levee breaks and Tagerine and Dazed and confused, as page wrote those lyrics)
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
I just pick up on the antinirvana and antikurt hatred on the board.
I was just suggesting that I am not the only one who thought the band and kurt was special.
Layne was special as well. No doubt. But to me at least Kurt more symbolized what I was and am going through. The teen angst, angry at parents thing was, and still is what I am going through, and Kurt tapped into that.
As I referenced above, layne was a beautiful singer and lyricist.
And without him, who knows maybe I would be a drug user.
But I dont know if Layne or Kurt was more talented. They both were talented. They both died too young.
Its hard to explain, but when it comes down to it, when you grow up in an abusive household, and your angry at parents, I gravitate more toward Kurt's lyrics than Laynes.
Thats what I was trying to point out, whether people on here like it or not, Kurt and Eddie tapped into the angry youth in the 90's, I was one of them.
Layne wasnt writing from the point of view of an abused kid. His stories and words are no less powerful, they just are from a different view.
Anyone can sham some arty, imaginative sounding lyrics which sound cool but mean very little. Layne meanwhile wrote songs like Nutshell and River of deceit, songs which penetrate into your soul. I'm sorry if that sounds melodramatic but it's true. I genuinely think that Layne's songwriting (as well as his singing) is vastly underrated. I mean this lyric from long gone day for example means everything in the world to me right now, given that I miss friends who I haven't seen in 7 months and now they are falling out and god knows when I'll be together with them all again. I've never related to Kurt like that.
from Mad season's Long Gone day
"who ever said
We wash away with the rain
See you all from time to time
Isn't it so strange
How far away we all are now
Am I the only one who remembers that summer
Oh, I remember
Everyday each time the place was saved
The music that we made
The wind has carried all of that away
Long gone day"
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"You need the patience of like a National Geographic photographer sitting underneath the bush in a tent, trying to get a picture of zebras fucking or something for the first time." -Eddie Vedder
I thought the world...Turns out the world thought me
I do love all three bands but none more than Soundgarden. They are my faviourite band. Matt Camerons drumming inspired me to drum (and listen to pearl Jam). Kim Thayil is truely my hero, i cant get enough of the mans awsomeness, some of his guitar was amazing. Ben Shepard had some mighty Bass lines and god didthey fit the music. TheN Chris Cornell, well he is cool as hell and some of the words he wrote really drive home with me.
So Soundgarden, they be amazing, my username here is a homage to them.
i so wish they were still together.
I do have quiet possibly the greatest Soundgarden poster on my wall of a skeleton on the cross, its huge, and awsome.