Would Incubus be

Jellyrolls wrote:

in your top 40 favorite bands of all time? Why or why not?

yes because I love SCIENCE. I don't care for most of their stuff though. but Science and Fungus Amongus are two of my favorite albums

rrivers wrote:

No because here are 40 bands I like better (in no particular order):

Pearl Jam
Led Zep
Rush
Springsteen and e Street
Idlewild
Metallica
The Who
The Beatles
Death Cab
Ozzy
AIC
Smashing Pumpkins
Tool
Pink Floyd
Megadeth
Pantera
Boston
Brad
U2
Soundgarden
The White Stripes
NIN
Nirvana
Ramones
Counting Crows
RATM
REM
Talking Heads
The Cure
Guns N Roses
Jimi Hendrix Experience
RHCP
Social D
Temple of the Dog
New Order
Ministry
AC/DC
Faith No More
The Killers
Live

Good list

No, I find their lyrics laughably bad, and their music terrible.

In addition, they were awful live.

Hell, you asked. Expect some negative responses.

Bottom 40? Maybe.

I've encountered a lot hate for Incubus, be it on here or elsewhere. If you don't like a band, then fair enough, but a lot of the hate directed towards Incubus tends to be very aggressive, and i've never understood why. If you don't like the music, fair enough. If you don't like the lyrics, fair enough. If you don't like Brandon's voice or the fact that he is a bit of a poser, fair enough. But just because you don't like a band doesn't mean that they're crap. This applies to all bands, not just the one i'm talking about, and it's something that has always annoyed me. People say that bands are rubbish because they are not to their tastes...I simply say I don't like them, or don't comment at all, and like someone else tried to get across earlier, it's nice to have a reason that a band is "crap" in someone's opinion.

This isn't a dig at people here, just something that annoys me in general.

As for Incubus being crap live, i've seen them four times, and they've been great every time. I think that if you go to see a band you don't like, then you're often going to think that they are crap live. But, it could simply be that on the occasion the non fans have seen them, they've simply been bad. But I doubt it.

Would they be in my top 40 bands? Yes, without a doubt. I really like them as a band, and while Brandon's lyrics are a little strange sometimes, I mostly like them too. Musically I think they are fantastic, but this tends to be something no one really notices. A Crow Left Of The Murder and Light Grenades both show what great musicians the band are.

One thing that always make me laugh about the amount of hate they get here is that their evolution as a band is similar to that of Pearl Jam. Both bands have a lot of fans that rave about their earliest work, and then dismiss all their later work. That's fine, but a lot of people do this without actually having listened to much, if any, of the later work. When PJ fans do it, it annoys me, as if someone did this in regards to PJ, they would be really annoyed about it. Like PJ, they evolve with every album, which I think is great. But you always get people who want a repeat of the same formula. The people who moan about PJ not sounding like Ten and Vs anymore, it's the same thing when people moan about the new Incubus album not sounding like Science. Science came out in 1997, I think, and it's all I can do not to laugh at people like that. What kind of talentless, stagnant band would try to produce another album that sounded like their successful album of TEN YEARS AGO?

Anyway. Sorry to make generalisations, but this is something that annoys me.

audiodave wrote:

I've encountered a lot hate for Incubus, be it on here or elsewhere. If you don't like a band, then fair enough, but a lot of the hate directed towards Incubus tends to be very aggressive, and i've never understood why. If you don't like the music, fair enough. If you don't like the lyrics, fair enough. If you don't like Brandon's voice or the fact that he is a bit of a poser, fair enough. But just because you don't like a band doesn't mean that they're crap. This applies to all bands, not just the one i'm talking about, and it's something that has always annoyed me. People say that bands are rubbish because they are not to their tastes...I simply say I don't like them, or don't comment at all, and like someone else tried to get across earlier, it's nice to have a reason that a band is "crap" in someone's opinion.

This isn't a dig at people here, just something that annoys me in general.

As for Incubus being crap live, i've seen them four times, and they've been great every time. I think that if you go to see a band you don't like, then you're often going to think that they are crap live. But, it could simply be that on the occasion the non fans have seen them, they've simply been bad. But I doubt it.

Would they be in my top 40 bands? Yes, without a doubt. I really like them as a band, and while Brandon's lyrics are a little strange sometimes, I mostly like them too. Musically I think they are fantastic, but this tends to be something no one really notices. A Crow Left Of The Murder and Light Grenades both show what great musicians the band are.

One thing that always make me laugh about the amount of hate they get here is that their evolution as a band is similar to that of Pearl Jam. Both bands have a lot of fans that rave about their earliest work, and then dismiss all their later work. That's fine, but a lot of people do this without actually having listened to much, if any, of the later work. When PJ fans do it, it annoys me, as if someone did this in regards to PJ, they would be really annoyed about it. Like PJ, they evolve with every album, which I think is great. But you always get people who want a repeat of the same formula. The people who moan about PJ not sounding like Ten and Vs anymore, it's the same thing when people moan about the new Incubus album not sounding like Science. Science came out in 1997, I think, and it's all I can do not to laugh at people like that. What kind of talentless, stagnant band would try to produce another album that sounded like their successful album of TEN YEARS AGO?

Anyway. Sorry to make generalisations, but this is something that annoys me.

Outstanding post. I get incredibly annoyed at what people get away with on this board. It is indicative of a society that rarely if ever asks its members to think critically about anything. Then, when I call them on the fact that they are making unintelligent comments, I am essentially labeled as a cry-baby who can't stand people criticizing bands I like. I am completely cool with people having different tastes. The very nature of this thread called for many to say Incubus is not a band they care for. That too is fine. Just have a reason for it.

As for your take on Incubus, I agree with much of it. I have seen them live four times, and they have always been incredible. Their Bridge School performances may be the most telling of all. They blew the crowd away, and in the papers, it was their performances that were most praised.

I also completely agree with your comparing them to Pearl Jam. I have expressed a similar opinion on this board before. Because they refuse to remain stagnant, both Incubus and Pearl Jam continue to be relevant to me, years after I first heard them. Unfortunately, as you point out, many seem to like their favorite bands to make the same album over and over again. I thought Crow Left of the Murder was a progression from Morning View. Light Grenades I am not as fond of, but every band has its inferior albums.

Also, completely agree about the band's musicanship. Jose Pasillas is one of the best drummers I have ever seen. Mike is an incredibly creative guitar player. I actually prefer Ben's bass playing to Dirk's. The drum/percussion bit they were doing in the middle of Vitamin on the Crow Left of the Murder tour is one of the most amazing live performances I have seen.

Again, great post!

audiodave wrote:

I've encountered a lot hate for Incubus, be it on here or elsewhere. If you don't like a band, then fair enough, but a lot of the hate directed towards Incubus tends to be very aggressive, and i've never understood why. If you don't like the music, fair enough. If you don't like the lyrics, fair enough. If you don't like Brandon's voice or the fact that he is a bit of a poser, fair enough. But just because you don't like a band doesn't mean that they're crap. This applies to all bands, not just the one i'm talking about, and it's something that has always annoyed me. People say that bands are rubbish because they are not to their tastes...I simply say I don't like them, or don't comment at all, and like someone else tried to get across earlier, it's nice to have a reason that a band is "crap" in someone's opinion.

This isn't a dig at people here, just something that annoys me in general.

As for Incubus being crap live, i've seen them four times, and they've been great every time. I think that if you go to see a band you don't like, then you're often going to think that they are crap live. But, it could simply be that on the occasion the non fans have seen them, they've simply been bad. But I doubt it.

Would they be in my top 40 bands? Yes, without a doubt. I really like them as a band, and while Brandon's lyrics are a little strange sometimes, I mostly like them too. Musically I think they are fantastic, but this tends to be something no one really notices. A Crow Left Of The Murder and Light Grenades both show what great musicians the band are.

One thing that always make me laugh about the amount of hate they get here is that their evolution as a band is similar to that of Pearl Jam. Both bands have a lot of fans that rave about their earliest work, and then dismiss all their later work. That's fine, but a lot of people do this without actually having listened to much, if any, of the later work. When PJ fans do it, it annoys me, as if someone did this in regards to PJ, they would be really annoyed about it. Like PJ, they evolve with every album, which I think is great. But you always get people who want a repeat of the same formula. The people who moan about PJ not sounding like Ten and Vs anymore, it's the same thing when people moan about the new Incubus album not sounding like Science. Science came out in 1997, I think, and it's all I can do not to laugh at people like that. What kind of talentless, stagnant band would try to produce another album that sounded like their successful album of TEN YEARS AGO?

Anyway. Sorry to make generalisations, but this is something that annoys me.

So you have never once referred to a band you dont like as just crap or rubbish?

Great post, audiodave.

stu gee wrote:

So you have never once referred to a band you dont like as just crap or rubbish?

I'm sure I have at some point, but I try not to. What I was trying to say is, you have the right to think something is crap, but that doesn't mean it IS crap.

Music is completely subjective and that's what is so great about it. But it annoys me when people completely dismiss something just becuase they don't like it. There are a LOT of bands that people on these boards rave about that aren't to my tastes, but I don't go around saying they're crap...just that I don't like them.

stu gee wrote:

Of course it doesnt mean it IS crap to everyone, but its crap to the person who says its crap, so they will be quite entitled to call it crap surely!! lol

I wouldnt take what anyone says negatively about a band i like too seriously to be honest. If they think its crap then fair enough, ill still like them.

I don't let what anyone thinks affect my opinion of a band either, but there are people out there who are very affected by other people's opinions.

i would consider them to be top 20 easy.
-bassist Ben Kenney is one of the most underrated musicians around.
-the drummer is unbelievable, and i love the fact that he is not technical at all..he does his own thing, yet he still manages to keep the song together
-the guitarist is very experimental and unique
-brandon boyd has some pipes

i love their songwriting and they are definitely a band that is better in concert..alot like pearl jam