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  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    catefrances wrote:
    oh fuck yeah.

    weezer's blue album

    stephen malkmus

    the forms

    though pixies still elude me... and 2 other people aside from him have tried to get me into them as well. but so far... no dice. :)

    but more tis the fact that hes open to ALL kinds of music... which just dovetails into my attitude perfectly.

    Same as. I'll give anything a go... I tend to have friends who influence certain genres. For example - My housemate informs me of metal bands like Electric Wizard and Witchcraft, My Dad hugely influences my love for stuff like Jethro Tull to Holst to Gershwin etc (he's a doctor of music), my friend I used to work with had a huge influence on my folk taste and Audiodave got me into REM and Saul Williams. I love the diversity of it all :)
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    Jellyrolls wrote:
    lol I got the point though, and it was a damn good one.

    Thank you :)
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Sian-of-the-dead wrote:
    yep... you've just completely missed the point.

    Maybe I need it explained again as well then.. I think J responded rather well.

    And by the way I did notice that you referred to Page playing a guitar with a bow right after J had already acknowledged that, but had said that Page did so as a gimmick.. as opposed to the guy from Sigur Ros who simply admires the sound it makes.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Maybe I need it explained again as well then.. I think J responded rather well.

    And by the way I did notice that you referred to Page playing a guitar with a bow right after J had already acknowledged that, but had said that Page did so as a gimmick.. as opposed to the guy from Sigur Ros who simply admires the sound it makes.
    Maybe you do. Read it slowly and concentrate.

    :p

    I've made my point. I'm not doing it again. :)
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Maybe I need it explained again as well then.. I think J responded rather well.

    And by the way I did notice that you referred to Page playing a guitar with a bow right after J had already acknowledged that, but had said that Page did so as a gimmick.. as opposed to the guy from Sigur Ros who simply admires the sound it makes.
    :)

    Sian, maybe you do have an admirable point and just didn't explain it in a way that made any sense to me and Mark or maybe my hangover is affecting my comprehension and you've made a total fool of me in this thread, whatever. At the end of the day, you started the thread and now you are bringing an end to a debate, which you helped perpetuate, with the old "I'm bored of this" cop-out.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    :)

    Sian, maybe you do have an admirable point and just didn't explain it in a way that made any sense to me and Mark or maybe my hangover is affecting my comprehension and you've made a total fool of me in this thread, whatever. At the end of the day, you started the thread and now you are bringing an end to a debate, which you helped perpetuate, with the old "I'm bored of this" cop-out.

    Last word again Jamie? :p

    I'm not copping out. I just feel that the post I made was clear and I don't need to explain it again.

    I suppose yes, I am bored of this... maybe I wouldn't have been if someone could actually tell me what the hype surrounding Sigur Ros is and not just miss the point completely... ah well.

    :)

    *leaves what could have been a good discussion thread*
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Sian-of-the-dead wrote:
    Maybe you do. Read it slowly and concentrate.

    :p

    I've made my point. I'm not doing it again. :)

    I don't get it. What J wrote was a perfectly logical and consistent response to everything you said in the last post.. He addressed everything you said in it and unless you want to argue that he didn't, I'm forced to believe that in this case, 'You didn't get my point' translates as 'I don't like your response so I give up'.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Sian-of-the-dead wrote:
    *leaves what could have been a good discussion thread*

    Would it have been a better discussion thread if we'd agreed with you?
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I don't get it. What J wrote was a perfectly logical and consistent response to everything you said in the last post.. He addressed everything you said in it and unless you want to argue that he didn't, I'm forced to believe that in this case, 'You didn't get my point' translates as 'I don't like your response so I give up'.

    So how come someone else understood me perfectly? :confused:
    Stop jumping to the defense of your friend and actually read my post.

    I give up because it's obviously not getting through to him... Jamie knows best, so fine. Jamie knows best.
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I don't get it. What J wrote was a perfectly logical and consistent response to everything you said in the last post.. He addressed everything you said in it and unless you want to argue that he didn't, I'm forced to believe that in this case, 'You didn't get my point' translates as 'I don't like your response so I give up'.
    Exactly.

    And Sian says I didn't provide any explanations for the hype surrounding them. I think "some people find their music extremely beautiful and that is their right" to be a perfectly sufficient explanation.

    Glad to know I'm not as stupid and unable to follow an argument as some would have me believe. Cheers Mark! :)

    Perhaps you missed MY points Sian? I know where you are coming from but nowhere in this thread did I see any reasons from you why Sigur Ros DON'T deserve the hype other than "I don't like them" and "violin bows have been done before".

    As for the last word? Ditto :D Besides, it's a discussion board and we all get along here so why the hell not?
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Sian-of-the-dead wrote:
    So how come someone else understood me perfectly? :confused:
    Stop jumping to the defense of your friend and actually read my post.

    I give up because it's obviously not getting through to him... Jamie knows best, so fine. Jamie knows best.
    So hang on, Jellyroll's endorsement of your opinions are more valid than Mark's of mine? Seems to me we both have people agreeing with us.

    And now we have personal digs at me because of something MARK has said and not me? Christ almighty Sian, real mature and cool. Makes your arguments seem a lot more cohesive. I never said I know best. You started a thread and asked a question. I replied. I don't see any call for sarky "Jamie knows best" comments.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Would it have been a better discussion thread if we'd agreed with you?

    A few people agreed with me... I didn't even quote them :rolleyes:
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Sian-of-the-dead wrote:
    So how come someone else understood me perfectly? :confused:
    Stop jumping to the defense of your friend and actually read my post.

    I give up because it's obviously not getting through to him... Jamie knows best, so fine. Jamie knows best.

    dont you submit to the cockheads sian. so what they dont get where youre coming from. hell im yet to meet the person who gets where im from(though i came frightfully close). anyhoo as i said the only opinion thay counts is your own. :)
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  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I don't get it. What J wrote was a perfectly logical and consistent response to everything you said in the last post.. He addressed everything you said in it and unless you want to argue that he didn't, I'm forced to believe that in this case, 'You didn't get my point' translates as 'I don't like your response so I give up'.
    I believe the point was something along the lines of:

    Sian doesn't have a problem wiht Sigur Ros as such, she just doesn't like them. Fair enough, they aren't for everyone. What I think she has a problem with is the fans who proclaim them to be the second coming of Christ (not literally...though I don't think this is TOO much of a stretch :p).

    The point about the Spice Girl was...no one's pretending that they're musically complex or anything special...everyone KNOWS they're bloody awful :p, but at least they don't pretend otherwise.

    And before someone accuses me of jumping to Sian's defense, there's plenty we disagree on, and I actually happen to quite like Sigur Ros. I don't think they're brilliant, I just think they're ok at doing what they do, which in my opinion, is making music to help me chill out and fall asleep. They certainly will never change my life.

    That was take on it. Correct me if I didn't get it.
    ~AKA Dave-of-the-dead~

    I don't wanna think, I wanna feel

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  • chime
    chime Posts: 7,839
    Sian-of-the-dead wrote:
    Last word again Jamie? :p

    I'm not copping out. I just feel that the post I made was clear and I don't need to explain it again.

    I suppose yes, I am bored of this... maybe I wouldn't have been if someone could actually tell me what the hype surrounding Sigur Ros is and not just miss the point completely... ah well.

    :)

    *leaves what could have been a good discussion thread*

    I don't know anything about the hype surrounding Sigur Ros ... I never listen to the radio and don't think I've ever read an article about them.

    I don't look too far into music ... whose a genius, whose creative ... I just like what I like so I can tell you a little about what I like about Sigur Ros :)

    I find it beautiful, calming, relaxing ... which means I can understand why some find it zzzz inducing ... in fact if I'm having trouble sleeping it would be my first choice to relax me off to the land of nod :o ... it has a time and place in my life.
    So are we strangers now? Like rock and roll and the radio?
  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    Chime wrote:
    it has a time and place in my life.
    That's pretty much how I feel about them. I use them occasionally as a means of relaxing me and helping me sleep.
    ~AKA Dave-of-the-dead~

    I don't wanna think, I wanna feel

    Dublin 23/08/06 Lisbon I 04/09/06 Lisbon II 05/09/06 Paris 11/09/06 Verona 16/09/06

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  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    So hang on, Jellyroll's endorsement of your opinions are more valid than Mark's of mine? Seems to me we both have people agreeing with us.

    And now we have personal digs at me because of something MARK has said and not me? Christ almighty Sian, real mature and cool. Makes your arguments seem a lot more cohesive. I never said I know best. You started a thread and asked a question. I replied. I don't see any call for sarky "Jamie knows best" comments.


    'Christ almight Sian' is a little much... just 'Sian' will do. :p

    Jellyroll's endorsements aren't any more valid, they just understood what I was saying is all... once again, you missed the point :rolleyes:
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    catefrances wrote:
    dont you submit to the cockheads sian. so what they dont get where youre coming from. hell im yet to meet the person who gets where im from(though i came frightfully close). anyhoo as i said the only opinion thay counts is your own. :)

    Thanks Cate :)
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    audiodave wrote:
    I believe the point was something along the lines of:

    Sian doesn't have a problem wiht Sigur Ros as such, she just doesn't like them. Fair enough, they aren't for everyone. What I think she has a problem with is the fans who proclaim them to be the second coming of Christ (not literally...though I don't think this is TOO much of a stretch :p).

    The point about the Spice Girl was...no one's pretending that they're musically complex or anything special...everyone KNOWS they're bloody awful :p, but at least they don't pretend otherwise.

    And before someone accuses me of jumping to Sian's defense, there's plenty we disagree on, and I actually happen to quite like Sigur Ros. I don't think they're brilliant, I just think they're ok at doing what they do, which in my opinion, is making music to help me chill out and fall asleep. They certainly will never change my life.

    That was take on it. Correct me if I didn't get it.
    Dave, I understood all of that and that's fine :) The suggestion that they are OVERRATED however suggests that, even though Sian is fine with people liking them, she's not fine with people saying they're amazing. I personally can't get my head round why that would bother someone and the idea that Sian is right and Sigur Ros fans are over-earnest people who just need to realise that Sigur Ros are no Prokofiev seems a little silly and more than a tad arrogant to me.


    Of course, I just missed the point.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Dave, I understood all of that and that's fine :) The suggestion that they are OVERRATED however suggests that, even though Sian is fine with people liking them, she's not fine with people saying they're amazing. I personally can't get my head round why that would bother someone and the idea that Sian is right and Sigur Ros fans are over-earnest people who just need to realise that Sigur Ros are no Prokofiev seems a little silly and more than a tad arrogant to me.
    Is all of that implied from the word overrated?
    ~AKA Dave-of-the-dead~

    I don't wanna think, I wanna feel

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