Ed quote from 2005 - Target related

quelquefois

slightofjeff wrote:

That's the problem with idealists. They aren't realistic. They don't live in the real world. And they are far too rigid.

i think even if our ideals are impossible to attain, there is still value in trying. i agree that in a sense we always have to negotiate between our ideals and what's practical or possible... not all idealists are dogmatic.

but i don't think surrender has any value at all... better to work towards our ideals then lay down and get run over.

mensane

i saw mike shopping at Target once.

dcfaithful

Jesus.

Well, I'm happy for new PJ, and I shop at Target

U R A Crazy Breed

PJBuckeye wrote:

I know enough to roll my eyes at a loony extremist.

I know enough to laugh at angry people that ironically yell "ignorance" at every turn. (figure out why I say ironically)

Your "sources" are two guys that work retail. What percentage of people that work in retail love their jobs? Of course they are going to bitch about their "unfair" jobs. They hate their jobs by definition. Come a little stronger then that.

PJBuckeye

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

PJBuckeye wrote:

I know enough to roll my eyes at a loony extremist.

I know enough to laugh at angry people that ironically yell "ignorance" at every turn. (figure out why I say ironically)

Your "sources" are two guys that work retail. What percentage of people that work in retail love their jobs? Of course they are going to bitch about their "unfair" jobs. They hate their jobs by definition. Come a little stronger then that.

Wow, I get two pictues. And a punk avatar. Yeah, ANARCHY and NONCONFORMITY, MAN!!!! I shared these opinions when I was 14 and held alot of pain and anger. Then I realized I was young and naive. I grew up and matured. Or as you call it, conformed. I'm a lot happier now. Now, I can even shop for great values at Walmart and then when I get really extravagent I shop at Target. Geez, why am I so apathetic to these big, evil, corporate machines?

dimitrispearljam

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

PJBuckeye wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

Sony doesn't employ thousands of American workers and then provide a substandard wage and working environment thus continuing the wal-martization of the American work place and economy...also Sony isn't selling Chinese slave labor produced goods that have replaced American manufactured goods when your politicians, catering to corporations like Target, sold us out with NAFTA & GATT!!!!

is it starting to sink in now or should i continue?

Once again, Crazy Breed is paranoid of something larger and more sucessful than him. Big Surprise.

once again your ignorance leads you to a false assumption.



time to come up for air??

Vedd Hedd

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

Sony doesn't employ thousands of American workers and then provide a substandard wage and working environment thus continuing the wal-martization of the American work place and economy...also Sony isn't selling Chinese slave labor produced goods that have replaced American manufactured goods when your politicians, catering to corporations like Target, sold us out with NAFTA & GATT!!!!

is it starting to sink in now or should i continue?

Without reading through pages and pages....

is this a serious post??

Sony isnt selling slave labor produced goods?

SolarWorld

Marie Curie wrote:

touringfan wrote:

This was a quote from 05 but it sums up the Target situation nicely. I for one agree with him 100% and don't fault them one bit for "mixing it up" a bit. For those crying about the Target thing read this and see where the band is coming from before you get all worked up over something so Inconsequential.

"Vedder: "What's happening is that this is the level of mainstream. If you're going to participate in the mainstream or compete with the amount of stuff that's out there, the bar gets raised. Now, it's not even about getting your video played. It's actually about getting a commercial when the record comes out."

Vedder: "I would rather that loads of people - including young women - heard your song through an iPod commercial, and then bought your record and be changed and affected by it - which they would be - as opposed to, say, a reality show."

But he's talking about Sleater-Kinney on those quotes. I don't think you can really apply that to PJ

:?:

Pearl Jam is doing this... commercial? How can you not apply this, they are doing it...

SolarWorld

Vedd Hedd wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

Sony doesn't employ thousands of American workers and then provide a substandard wage and working environment thus continuing the wal-martization of the American work place and economy...also Sony isn't selling Chinese slave labor produced goods that have replaced American manufactured goods when your politicians, catering to corporations like Target, sold us out with NAFTA & GATT!!!!

is it starting to sink in now or should i continue?

Without reading through pages and pages....

is this a serious post??

Sony isnt selling slave labor produced goods?

Yo man those factory workers making CDs roll with phat wads in their pockets yo! :roll: