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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,942
    redrock wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

    It is FAR FROM A MARRIAGE LIKE ANY OTHER!

    Why? Is it not the union of two people in love who wish to have a fulfilling life together, with all the ups and downs of a marriage? Apart from the sex aspect (and procreation), how so different is it to a man/woman marriage?
    I did mention custody rights, adoption rights, alimony rights.
    In what? 90% of marriages MOTHER has custody in a divorce? Dad pays support and alimony? Correct me if I am wrong.

    What are the same sex marriage laws? Are there any in place? Again, I have no idea, so maybe somebody can educate me here.
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  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

    It is FAR FROM A MARRIAGE LIKE ANY OTHER!

    Why? Is it not the union of two people in love who wish to have a fulfilling life together, with all the ups and downs of a marriage? Apart from the sex aspect (and procreation), how so different is it to a man/woman marriage?
    I did mention custody rights, adoption rights, alimony rights.
    In what? 90% of marriages MOTHER has custody in a divorce? Dad pays support and alimony? Correct me if I am wrong.

    What are the same sex marriage laws? Are there any in place? Again, I have no idea, so maybe somebody can educate me here.

    custody, alimony etc. is decided on a case by case basis.

    As far as I know, in states where there same-sex marriages are recognized, there's no special laws that are put into place for "same-sex marriage."

    They are just considered marriages period.
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    Speedy, you never mentioned your reasons why you are against same-sex marriages.

    Why are you?
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    rollings wrote:
    Speedy, you never mentioned your reasons why you are against same-sex marriages.

    Why are you?
    same reasons why godfather is
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    So we make same sex marriages legal tommorow..

    And ALL current laws regarding marriage, alimony, child support, custody, etc. All stay in place?

    Think about it a second....

    It doesnt and WONT work.

    It is FAR FROM A MARRIAGE LIKE ANY OTHER!

    There is not any law that I am aware of that says.....

    the woman has the right to THIS....the man has the right to THAT

    see, that would be sexual discrimination so you won't find a law that says that.
    ....they only refer to "spouse" so it could be the man or the woman..
    therefore there would be no changes to the written laws themselves....
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

    It is FAR FROM A MARRIAGE LIKE ANY OTHER!

    Why? Is it not the union of two people in love who wish to have a fulfilling life together, with all the ups and downs of a marriage? Apart from the sex aspect (and procreation), how so different is it to a man/woman marriage?
    I did mention custody rights, adoption rights, alimony rights.
    In what? 90% of marriages MOTHER has custody in a divorce? Dad pays support and alimony? Correct me if I am wrong.

    What are the same sex marriage laws? Are there any in place? Again, I have no idea, so maybe somebody can educate me here.

    It would be exactly the same as in all divorce cases.

    In Britain, gay civil partnerships have ALL the same rights of a woman/man married couple who had a civil marriage (ie not married in a church), including divorce issues.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,942
    It would be the same????

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... MrLd2zMBpQ

    No it wouldnt.
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    It would be the same????

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... MrLd2zMBpQ

    No it wouldnt.

    It would if the law changed. All states and federal.
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    It would be the same????

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... MrLd2zMBpQ

    No it wouldnt.


    Speedy, your article is an argument in SUPPORT of gay marriages.

    The only reason that there are problems in divorce as the article outlines is beause the law DOES NOT recognize gay marriage as it does other marriages.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,942
    redrock wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    It would be the same????

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... MrLd2zMBpQ

    No it wouldnt.

    It would if the law changed. All states and federal.
    And now you see it my way!
    Laws need to be changed!
    Same Sex marriage isnt going to happen over-night!

    hehehe
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    It would be the same????

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... MrLd2zMBpQ

    No it wouldnt.

    It would if the law changed. All states and federal.
    And now you see it my way!
    Laws need to be changed!
    Same Sex marriage isnt going to happen over-night!

    hehehe

    red rock meant one law.
    the law that says gay can marry
    in all states
    and federal.
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    A little 'thought':

    I mentioned that in the UK, civil partnerships (ie same sex 'unions') conferred the same legal rights as civil marriage (hetero 'unions').

    This does not mean that gays find their partnerships 'equal' as gay 'marriage' is still not legal. A few years back, a same sex couple who married in Canada were not able to have their marriage recognised as such here. What they want is 'equal marriage' (we're not talking religious marriages here).

    I know that some will not understand what it means for those involved but the 'EQUAL' bit is important - it's full recognition.
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    It would be the same????

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... MrLd2zMBpQ

    No it wouldnt.

    It would if the law changed. All states and federal.
    And now you see it my way!
    Laws need to be changed!
    Same Sex marriage isnt going to happen over-night!

    hehehe
    is that your argument?

    are you against same-sex marriages because you think alimony or divorce laws differentiate between man and woman, which they don't?

    anything else?
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,072
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    It would be the same????

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... MrLd2zMBpQ

    No it wouldnt.

    It would if the law changed. All states and federal.
    And now you see it my way!
    Laws need to be changed!
    Same Sex marriage isnt going to happen over-night!

    hehehe

    Yeah, it may take a little effort. Is that a reason for not doing it?
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    rollings wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    redrock wrote:

    It would if the law changed. All states and federal.
    And now you see it my way!
    Laws need to be changed!
    Same Sex marriage isnt going to happen over-night!

    hehehe

    red rock meant one law.
    the law that says gay can marry
    in all states
    and federal.

    Yes - thank you.
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    edited May 2012
    .....

    Double post for some reason!
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,942
    Ok..

    I am off to celebrate Mothers Day....

    Thank you all for not calling me a bigot, or an asshole....

    And thank you for also seeing things my way! hehehe
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    Ok..

    I am off to celebrate Mothers Day....

    Thank you all for not calling me a bigot, or an asshole....

    And thank you for also seeing things my way! hehehe

    and thank you for losing gracefully ! :wave:

    hey....mother's day is tomorrow....
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,942
    rollings wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    Ok..

    I am off to celebrate Mothers Day....

    Thank you all for not calling me a bigot, or an asshole....

    And thank you for also seeing things my way! hehehe

    and thank you for losing gracefully ! :wave:

    hey....mother's day is tomorrow....
    I didnt realize it was a game.
    There are winners and Losers here?

    Well the Federal government of the USA does NOT recognize same sex marriages.....

    You are losing your battle my friend!!!!

    But keep up the fight!
    Just dont parade around in your underwear like those videos I showed here earlier...
    Because middle America will NEVER give you their support. hehehe
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    rollings wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    Ok..

    I am off to celebrate Mothers Day....

    Thank you all for not calling me a bigot, or an asshole....

    And thank you for also seeing things my way! hehehe

    and thank you for losing gracefully ! :wave:

    hey....mother's day is tomorrow....
    I didnt realize it was a game.
    There are winners and Losers here?

    Well the Federal government of the USA does NOT recognize same sex marriages.....

    You are losing your battle my friend!!!!

    But keep up the fight!
    Just dont parade around in your underwear like those videos I showed here earlier...
    Because middle America will NEVER give you their support. hehehe

    you're right.

    in order to lose an argument, you have to have one to begin with.

    You didn't have any argument at all, except for that which is discriminatory in nature.

    P.S. I would need a bra and underwear in a parade :P
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