Should Michael Vick be allowed back in NFL?

jlew24asu

this is going to become a hot topic soon. this is a very emotional issue for many. has he paid his debt to society? should be be given a second chance?
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Michael Vick(notes) gets out of prison this week, and so far only one thing is certain: He won’t have a dog to kick around when he gets home.

The federal judge who put him behind bars made sure of that at Vick’s sentencing when he ordered him never to have a dog again. It seemed an unusual provision, but the judge has a little white bichon frise and apparently couldn’t go home and look his dog in the eye if he didn’t do something to protect others like him.

Even that wasn’t enough to satisfy some people. Nothing will ever be enough for them.

Not the $928,000 Vick offered up to house and feed the dogs who survived his brutal dogfighting ring. Not the fortune he lost when everything came crashing down and there was no one left to pick up the pieces.

Not the 18 months he served in a federal prison, or the years he lost during the prime of his athletic career.

Anon

Would anyone else be allowed back to their job? Personally the guy is a POS and I'd like to spit in his face for what he did. I'd rather he never saw the sun rise as a free man again. But he has been released, so nobody other than Roger Goodell can stop him from making a living. At the very least he should be banned from owning any animals again.

DeLukin

Not a fan of the Vick, but if he has served his debt to society then he should be allowed to play again. Hopefully, this time he won't take it for granted...

jlew24asu

JB811 wrote:

Would anyone else be allowed back to their job?

that depends. Vick is one of the best there is in his given profession. there is a demand for his services. say one of the top scientists went to jail for dogfighting. changes are he was find a job after he got out of jail.

JB811 wrote:

Personally the guy is a POS and I'd like to spit in his face for what he did. I'd rather he never saw the sun rise as a free man again. But he has been released, so nobody other than Roger Goodell can stop him from making a living. At the very least he should be banned from owning any animals again.

you think he deserves life in prison for this? and solitary confinement as well?

although I agree he should be banned from owning a dog, if there is such a thing.

jlew24asu

DeLukin wrote:

Not a fan of the Vick, but if he has served his debt to society then he should be allowed to play again. Hopefully, this time he won't take it for granted...

I have a hard time disagreeing with this. I really despise the guy but maybe jail has changed him. I dont know yet. its still possible he can spend his time out of jail helping dogs and help stop dog fighting whereever it exists.

blackredyellow

Yes... I wouldn't fault the league for suspending him for the 2009 season, but eventually he should be back.

I just can't think of really any team other than the Raiders (and maybe the Cowboys) who would take on that sort of baggage and PR mess.

Anon

jlew24asu wrote:

JB811 wrote:

Would anyone else be allowed back to their job?

that depends. Vick is one of the best there is in his given profession. there is a demand for his services. say one of the top scientists went to jail for dogfighting. changes are he was find a job after he got out of jail.

JB811 wrote:

Personally the guy is a POS and I'd like to spit in his face for what he did. I'd rather he never saw the sun rise as a free man again. But he has been released, so nobody other than Roger Goodell can stop him from making a living. At the very least he should be banned from owning any animals again.

you think he deserves life in prison for this? and solitary confinement as well?

although I agree he should be banned from owning a dog, if there is such a thing.

Yeah I think he should be locked up for life. I didn't say anything about solitary confinement. Society has no use for the guy and he has proven that he is capable of being the lowest form of life. He offers us nothing.

jlew24asu

blackredyellow wrote:

Yes... I wouldn't fault the league for suspending him for the 2009 season, but eventually he should be back.

I just can't think of really any team other than the Raiders (and maybe the Cowboys) who would take on that sort of baggage and PR mess.

thats true. although I cant even see the Cowboys taking on his baggage. Raiders is a good guess but you're right, Vick comes with a shit load of potential backlash.

Wilds

He should be allowed back. Now with that said if I was an owner of a team I would not hire him personally.

As much for his baggage and character, but also cause I don't think he is a QB who will ever take a team to the highest level.

Now as some type of RB/QB who plays 1 down every four snaps, maybe there is a team that needs that, but it wouldn't be on my watch if I was in charge.

megatron

he's an idiot but they have to let him back in

they let this guy in
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football ... rged_x.htm
human...dead

and this one
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2910497
say what u want but someone is paralyzed from this

just cause its dogs everyone is in a fit.
what about people that are hurt too?
o well

the list goes on and on

jlew24asu

JB811 wrote:

Yeah I think he should be locked up for life. I didn't say anything about solitary confinement. Society has no use for the guy and he has proven that he is capable of being the lowest form of life. He offers us nothing.

you said not see the light of day...ever.

and how do you know he has nothing to offer? like I said, he could very well become an advocate for dogs or poster child for helping end dogfighting.

and how can you consider his crime the lowest for of life? how about murders or rapest or child molesters? they arent even in the same league as a guy who ran some dog fights. I think you are way off base.

Cosmo

He did his time... and hopefully learned from it... but, i'm not betting on it.
As for the NFL... why not? It's not like they have a good name to tarnish.
...
I hope he has to play against Cleveland.

inmytree

jlew24asu wrote:

this is going to become a hot topic soon. this is a very emotional issue for many. has he paid his debt to society? should be be given a second chance?

Absolutely...I see no reason to prevent him from returning...he paid his dues and he should be able to move on as he sees fit...

megatron

inmytree wrote:

jlew24asu wrote:

this is going to become a hot topic soon. this is a very emotional issue for many. has he paid his debt to society? should be be given a second chance?

Absolutely...I see no reason to prevent him from returning...he paid his dues and he should be able to move on as he sees fit...

please see my response..second chances are a guarantee in this league
especially with the starpower of vick

jlew24asu

RACE THAT CANT BE WON wrote:

inmytree wrote:

jlew24asu wrote:

this is going to become a hot topic soon. this is a very emotional issue for many. has he paid his debt to society? should be be given a second chance?

Absolutely...I see no reason to prevent him from returning...he paid his dues and he should be able to move on as he sees fit...

please see my response..second chances are a guarantee in this league
especially with the starpower of vick

ok, do you think that is right or wrong? should Vick be allowed to play again ?

polaris_x

he most defnitely should be allowed to play in the NFL again ... he's served his time ... he should be allowed to resume his career ...

WaveCameCrashin

We all make mistakes in life. Some are worse than others. IMO I think he should be allowed to play again. What He did had nothing to do with football. He served his time and Im sure he has probably thought long and hard about what he did. Although what he did is horrible I think we should forgive him. And If he is allowed to play he should have to donate some of his earnings to Peta or some other Charity for dogs.

soulsinging

jlew24asu wrote:

JB811 wrote:

Yeah I think he should be locked up for life. I didn't say anything about solitary confinement. Society has no use for the guy and he has proven that he is capable of being the lowest form of life. He offers us nothing.

you said not see the light of day...ever.

and how do you know he has nothing to offer? like I said, he could very well become an advocate for dogs or poster child for helping end dogfighting.

and how can you consider his crime the lowest for of life? how about murders or rapest or child molesters? they arent even in the same league as a guy who ran some dog fights. I think you are way off base.

Kinda what I was thinking. Sure, his crime was despicable, but lowest form of life ever?

tybird

Let him play....it's probably the only job that he is qualified for anyway. I would like to see the Commish load him down with required community service in order to get the right to play again, but that may invoke some labor law problems.

Anon

jlew24asu wrote:

you said not see the light of day...ever.

This is what I said.

I'd rather he never saw the sun rise as a free man again

That does not mean solitary confinement. That means I don't want him to be free.

jlew24asu

JB811 wrote:

jlew24asu wrote:

you said not see the light of day...ever.

This is what I said.

I'd rather he never saw the sun rise as a free man again

That does not mean solitary confinement. That means I don't want him to be free.

ok fine, please forgive me. its still absurd to think the man should spend the rest of his life in jail and is "lowest form of life"