Should Michael Vick be allowed back in NFL?
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this is going to become a hot topic soon. this is a very emotional issue for many. has he paid his debt to society? should be be given a second chance?
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Michael Vick(notes) gets out of prison this week, and so far only one thing is certain: He won’t have a dog to kick around when he gets home.
The federal judge who put him behind bars made sure of that at Vick’s sentencing when he ordered him never to have a dog again. It seemed an unusual provision, but the judge has a little white bichon frise and apparently couldn’t go home and look his dog in the eye if he didn’t do something to protect others like him.
Even that wasn’t enough to satisfy some people. Nothing will ever be enough for them.
Not the $928,000 Vick offered up to house and feed the dogs who survived his brutal dogfighting ring. Not the fortune he lost when everything came crashing down and there was no one left to pick up the pieces.
Not the 18 months he served in a federal prison, or the years he lost during the prime of his athletic career.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns
Michael Vick(notes) gets out of prison this week, and so far only one thing is certain: He won’t have a dog to kick around when he gets home.
The federal judge who put him behind bars made sure of that at Vick’s sentencing when he ordered him never to have a dog again. It seemed an unusual provision, but the judge has a little white bichon frise and apparently couldn’t go home and look his dog in the eye if he didn’t do something to protect others like him.
Even that wasn’t enough to satisfy some people. Nothing will ever be enough for them.
Not the $928,000 Vick offered up to house and feed the dogs who survived his brutal dogfighting ring. Not the fortune he lost when everything came crashing down and there was no one left to pick up the pieces.
Not the 18 months he served in a federal prison, or the years he lost during the prime of his athletic career.
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that depends. Vick is one of the best there is in his given profession. there is a demand for his services. say one of the top scientists went to jail for dogfighting. changes are he was find a job after he got out of jail.
you think he deserves life in prison for this? and solitary confinement as well?
although I agree he should be banned from owning a dog, if there is such a thing.
I have a hard time disagreeing with this. I really despise the guy but maybe jail has changed him. I dont know yet. its still possible he can spend his time out of jail helping dogs and help stop dog fighting whereever it exists.
I just can't think of really any team other than the Raiders (and maybe the Cowboys) who would take on that sort of baggage and PR mess.
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Yeah I think he should be locked up for life. I didn't say anything about solitary confinement. Society has no use for the guy and he has proven that he is capable of being the lowest form of life. He offers us nothing.
thats true. although I cant even see the Cowboys taking on his baggage. Raiders is a good guess but you're right, Vick comes with a shit load of potential backlash.
As much for his baggage and character, but also cause I don't think he is a QB who will ever take a team to the highest level.
Now as some type of RB/QB who plays 1 down every four snaps, maybe there is a team that needs that, but it wouldn't be on my watch if I was in charge.
they let this guy in
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football ... rged_x.htm
human...dead
and this one
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2910497
say what u want but someone is paralyzed from this
just cause its dogs everyone is in a fit.
what about people that are hurt too?
o well
the list goes on and on
you said not see the light of day...ever.
and how do you know he has nothing to offer? like I said, he could very well become an advocate for dogs or poster child for helping end dogfighting.
and how can you consider his crime the lowest for of life? how about murders or rapest or child molesters? they arent even in the same league as a guy who ran some dog fights. I think you are way off base.
As for the NFL... why not? It's not like they have a good name to tarnish.
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I hope he has to play against Cleveland.
Hail, Hail!!!
Absolutely...I see no reason to prevent him from returning...he paid his dues and he should be able to move on as he sees fit...
please see my response..second chances are a guarantee in this league
especially with the starpower of vick
ok, do you think that is right or wrong? should Vick be allowed to play again ?
Kinda what I was thinking. Sure, his crime was despicable, but lowest form of life ever?
This is what I said.
I'd rather he never saw the sun rise as a free man again
That does not mean solitary confinement. That means I don't want him to be free.
ok fine, please forgive me. its still absurd to think the man should spend the rest of his life in jail and is "lowest form of life"
for Vick's sake, it's good that people have compassion of this level.
I think the guy is scumbag, and I'll be extremely disappointed to see him play football again, or even hold a role such as that that will in some way or another glorify his athletic talent, because obviously that's all he has going for him, his character has got the biggest shit stain on it possible...and I personally don't believe jail would change someone who would do something of that caliber...
If you are heartless enough to torture, beat, and kill animals that really don't have the chioce under those circumstances is jail something that is really going to make you feel remorse for what you've done? Being locked in a cell? If Michael Vick ever had any possibility of feeling "sorry" or "bad" about what he did, he wouldn't have let it go as far as it did.
FUCK Michael Vick.
Not trying to take awayf rom anybody elses opinions...believe as you will. Just voicing mine.
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Bet your bottom dollar if I caught someone trying to harm my dog for no reason I would do very very bad things to get them to stop. Whatever it would take.
how about the humane society? peta are nutjobs
Vick to work with Humane Society
(CNN) -- Former Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, serving a prison sentence on charges related to dogfighting, will work with the Humane Society of the United States on anti-dogfighting campaigns after his release, Humane Society President Wayne Pacelle said Tuesday.
Michael Vick, 28, is serving a 23-month sentence. He is expected to be released in May.
Michael Vick, 28, is serving a 23-month sentence. He is expected to be released in May.
Vick will work on programs aimed at preventing youths from getting involved in dogfighting, and also on programs aimed at assisting youths who have been involved.
Vick, 28, is serving a 23-month sentence in a Leavenworth, Kansas, prison after pleading guilty in August 2007 to a federal charge of bankrolling a dogfighting operation at a home he owned in Virginia. His sentence ends in July, but he is expected to be released sometime in May and serve the remainder of his sentence in home confinement, most likely in Virginia. He is a native of Newport News.
Pacelle said the Humane Society was approached by Vick's representatives. He said he has traveled to Kansas twice to meet with Vick, and during the second visit, the two discussed how Vick could use his sway over youths to discourage them from involvement in dogfighting, as well as help those who were apprehended in connection with it.
Details have not yet been decided, Pacelle said, but will be in the next couple of days.
Last month, a federal bankruptcy judge denied a Chapter 11 bankruptcy plan presented by Vick, urging him to offer the court another plan to emerge from bankruptcy. The plan called for Vick to come up with $750,000 to $1 million in cash to be paid to creditors, U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Frank Santoro said, but added he saw no evidence Vick could come up with that much. Santoro suggested Vick's next plan not call for him to keep two houses and three cars, as did the rejected proposal.
In testimony, Vick acknowledged committing a "heinous" act and said he should have acted more maturely. He said he has been earning 12 cents an hour as an overnight janitor in prison. His Falcons salary, he said, was between $10 million and $12 million. He acknowledged failing to handle his money well.
Vick's attorneys have said he will work at a Newport News construction firm after his release. But the sports agent who negotiated Vick's 10-year, $140 million contract with the Falcons testified that Vick will return to the game as soon as September if reinstated by the NFL. Meanwhile, he has also agreed to participate in a documentary for $600,000.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/05/19/vick.h ... topstories
More attention has been paid to dogfighting as a result of Vick's case, Pacelle said. The Humane Society, which offers rewards for tips involving dogfighting, has recently paid out $40,000 in five different cases, he said.
PETA rules.
but ok.
LOL, slow down skippy. I dont have compassion for Mike Vick. I was speaking hypothetically. second of all, lets put what was done in prospective. we are talking about pit bulls fighting each other. pit bulls are the strongest most viscous breed of dog know to man. although I love those dogs, my ex-girlfriend has one and she slept in the same bed with us almost every night. I LOVE pit bulls.
mike vick and his buddies didnt sit around and put cigarettes out on their backs or cut off their legs. they forced these dogs to fight. and on some basica animalistic level, thats what animals do to survive. they are animals remember?
now that said, it is 100% wrong what was done and Mike Vick deserves all the jail time he got. but I'm not sure why you think he can't change. Mike Vick grew up in a culture where this type of thing is normal and accepted. he probably had no idea what he was doing was wrong until he was arrested.
exactly. peta are way to extreme for my liking. I would never support them.
your last statement puts you in the same category as the people you speak of.
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