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10C keep this rule in place for 09 USA SHOWS .

josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,457
edited May 2009 in The Porch
Reserved tickets are allocated by seniority ... :D:D yeah i said it let the fun begin ;) ..
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    Murderers.Murderers. Posts: 1,382
    Not really a fair way of doing things anymore, imo.
    What the fuck is this world?
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    Indian SummerIndian Summer Posts: 2,296
    edited April 2009
    Go back to the 2000 tour method of ticketing. Best tour i've ever been to, as well as the best seats I've ever had.
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    JennytreeJennytree Posts: 5,340
    josevolution wrote:
    Reserved tickets are allocated by seniority ... :D:D yeah i said it let the fun begin ;) ..
    Have things changed in the States?
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    normnorm I'm always home. I'm uncool. Posts: 31,146
    josevolution wrote:
    Reserved tickets are allocated by seniority ... :D:D yeah i said it let the fun begin ;) ..


    as long as i get one of your tickets, i'm good with this :mrgreen:
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    BeerBaronBeerBaron Toronto-ish Posts: 4,091
    josevolution wrote:
    Reserved tickets are allocated by seniority ... :D:D yeah i said it let the fun begin ;) ..
    I am on the fence.

    In general, I like the lottery. The problem is that I think there are hundreds of people out there who have signed up for the 10C in the past year just to "hit the lottery" ... and I am betting that there are many scalpers in that group. This also makes it harder for long time members, like you and me, to get tickets in the first place, never mind that it pushed us back a few rows.

    I don't have the solution ... I just see big problems if they just continue to have the lottery system in place as was in '08.
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    rodentrodent Posts: 133
    I agree with BeerBaron on this. I've been a member of the fan club since 93 and one of the main reasons i stick with it is so that i can get the awesome seats at shows that i usually do. it might sound selfish but i'm sure you'd feel the same way if you continually got great seats.
    i also don't know what a fair solution would be...
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    PearlJamPatriotPearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    josevolution wrote:
    Reserved tickets are allocated by seniority ... :D:D yeah i said it let the fun begin ;) ..
    Yes, please. ;)
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    PissBottleManPissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,154
    rodent wrote:
    i also don't know what a fair solution would be...

    Before they opened the flood gates in '03, you could get fan club seats to one show only. That seems like a fair solution to both parties involved.

    Of course, it's more profitable the way they do it now.

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    decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,976
    edited April 2009
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    rodent wrote:
    i also don't know what a fair solution would be...

    Before they opened the flood gates in '03, you could get fan club seats to one show only. That seems like a fair solution to both parties involved.

    Of course, it's more profitable the way they do it now.

    PBM


    if you really want to go back to the 'good old days' of the fanclub.....one show per tour AND NO SENIORITY...since it didn't exist until 2000. :mrgreen:


    :lol:
    hahahahahahahahahaha.



    anyhooo, i'm game for whatever 10c decides to do, just keep offering up 10c tix! i thought last tour was awesome - seniority overall, a couple of random rows mixed in, fun for all! however....it's all good......



    jose is simply a shit-stirrer.........;)





    btw - in all seriousness...i do not see, at all, how a few random rows would possibly increase scalping? seriously. the 10c member must go to pick up the ticket in person, the day of the show. he/she also will have NO idea where the seats will be until the day of the show. would be a LOT of commitment to actually show up at a venue day of to make some extra $$$...and besides which, HOW do you market the seats when you don';t know where they are located? just sayin'....


    i understand all sorts of people have all sorts of reasons for being for/against any systems....and not all for selfish reasons either. so whatever. the 10c will do what they 10c will do. it's cool......
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    woundedorganwoundedorgan Posts: 607
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    rodent wrote:
    i also don't know what a fair solution would be...

    Before they opened the flood gates in '03, you could get fan club seats to one show only. That seems like a fair solution to both parties involved.

    Of course, it's more profitable the way they do it now.

    PBM


    No F-ing way will that ever happen again.

    I go with the lottery...I am sure some old timers are sick of seeing the band front row and wouldn't mind giving someone else a shot at it... :lol:
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    ValleyGalValleyGal Posts: 122
    BeerBaron wrote:
    In general, I like the lottery. The problem is that I think there are hundreds of people out there who have signed up for the 10C in the past year just to "hit the lottery" ... and I am betting that there are many scalpers in that group. This also makes it harder for long time members, like you and me, to get tickets in the first place, never mind that it pushed us back a few rows.

    I don't have the solution ... I just see big problems if they just continue to have the lottery system in place as was in '08.

    Something other bands are moving towards to try to alleviate some of the scalping is that if you're in certain rows for the show (ie. fan club seats) you can only pick up your tickets at the venue two hours before the show. I've encountered this for AC/DC in August and let me tell you that there is no way I would go to downtown Vancouver to pick up my tickets two hours before the show just to turn around and sell them.

    As someone with a high membership number, I say it's not fair to those of you who have been loyal club members for years to get screwed over in a lottery system. I don't care about sitting really close, just to be assured of a ticket to get in would be enough for me. Don't care if I'm in the back row . . . just don't leave me at the mercy of Ticket Bastard!
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,500
    Murderers wrote:
    Not really a fair way of doing things anymore, imo.
    and your number is ????

    08 was great and fair
    everyone had a chance to be upfront and seniority was more or less left intact

    if it aint broke dont fix it
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    decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,976
    Get_Right wrote:
    Murderers wrote:
    Not really a fair way of doing things anymore, imo.
    and your number is ????

    08 was great and fair
    everyone had a chance to be upfront and seniority was more or less left intact
    if it aint broke dont fix it



    exactly!
    :)


    honestly, i have truly loved how since the get-go....10c has changed, always striving for imporvements, for the greater good of all fans. to me, that's what a fan club is all about.
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    Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,783
    I have a shitty # as I just recently renewed for my second year in the 10C and I thought the way they did it for 08 was great. People who have been members for years are rewarded with great seats with a measly 4 rows going by lottery. I cant believe people would bitch about 4 rows making their seats that much worse.
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,003
    The next Ten Club contest: design a new method of ticket distribution. :lol:
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    ValleyGalValleyGal Posts: 122
    benjs wrote:
    The next Ten Club contest: design a new method of ticket distribution. :lol:

    . . . but then you'd have to deal with the whiners whose methods weren't chosen :lol:
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,457
    D2D knows me well :D ...and so does Get Right :D ...
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    youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,574
    I have a 400xxx 10c # and I don't have a problem with the way it is. Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of the lottery even though I never won it. but I think members who have been faithful for many years more than me should have seniority when it comes to seating. I know I would.
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    PearlJamPatriotPearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    I have a decent number. I don't mind the lottery deal. It gives people with high numbers a chance for good tickets and the band def does get sick of the same old fucks that cross there arms when they here certain songs. It makes things more refreshing for the band which will only improve their mood, hence their performance and show as a whole. I have no issue with that. I just don't think they should get rid of seniority all together.
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    keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    As a joiner in 2006, I think the seniority system is the best way to do something.

    Howabout a GA show?
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,500
    josevolution wrote:
    D2D knows me well :D ...and so does Get Right :D ...
    you shit stirrer you

    hahahahahaha :lol:
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,457
    Get_Right wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    D2D knows me well :D ...and so does Get Right :D ...
    you shit stirrer you

    hahahahahaha :lol:

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    CHANGEinWAVESCHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    I usually don't care where I sit as long as I am in the building and able to enjoy the show! With that being said, winning the 2nd row lottery for MSG nt2 was one of the high lights of my life, and I wish other fans who thought they'd never be that close with out shelling out major cash get that thrill :)
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    given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 5,892
    solution: tickets by seniority, but limit of 4-6 shows per full tour/leg. for shorter tours like 2009, maybe a limit of 4 shows.
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    U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    well let me take that spoon off your hands and give it a stir myself....

    first of all I'm so sick of the "I've been in the fan club for xx years so i deserve to have a better concert experience than all of you" bullshit!!........FUCK YOU AND YOUR 3 DIGIT 10c # !!! this elitist, arrogant, condescending sense of entitlement mentality pisses me the fuck off!!!!!!!!!!

    I have loved this band just as long as most of you..I just didn't get into seeing them live till 5 years ago..so you think being in the fan club before me makes you special and you should sit up front for ever? FU !! Then 10c tries to share a piece of the love with a lotto for 4 stinking rows and i had to come on here and see you "veteran club members" bitch and moan about it? FU !! that shit put a bunch of you in a very ugly light !!

    funny how we consider ourselves a close knit community....till someone has to sit a couple rows further back at a show. :evil: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :evil:

    ok.....I'm done :mrgreen::mrgreen:

    wait.....fuck ticket limitations!! if i want to go to every show that's my Biz!! PJ plays in venues that hold 10s of thousands of people so using the Ed solo rules wouldn't make sense..and you won't see it!PERIOD!!.....guaranteed!! :mrgreen:8-)
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,404
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    well let me take that spoon off your hands and give it a stir myself....

    it's safe to say that you stirred it quite well, Breed. 8-)
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,457
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    well let me take that spoon off your hands and give it a stir myself....

    first of all I'm so sick of the "I've been in the fan club for xx years so i deserve to have a better concert experience than all of you" bullshit!!........FUCK YOU AND YOUR 3 DIGIT 10c # !!! this elitist, arrogant, condescending sense of entitlement mentality pisses me the fuck off!!!!!!!!!!

    I have loved this band just as long as most of you..I just didn't get into seeing them live till 5 years ago..so you think being in the fan club before me makes you special and you should sit up front for ever? FU !! Then 10c tries to share a piece of the love with a lotto for 4 stinking rows and i had to come on here and see you "veteran club members" bitch and moan about it? FU !! that shit put a bunch of you in a very ugly light !!

    funny how we consider ourselves a close knit community....till someone has to sit a couple rows further back at a show. :evil: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :evil:

    ok.....I'm done :mrgreen::mrgreen:

    wait.....fuck ticket limitations!! if i want to go to every show that's my Biz!! PJ plays in venues that hold 10s of thousands of people so using the Ed solo rules wouldn't make sense..and you won't see it!PERIOD!!.....guaranteed!! :mrgreen:8-)


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    Ryan_WFCRyan_WFC Posts: 1,323
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    Of course, it's more profitable the way they do it now.

    You sure about that? 10-C gets the tickets from Ticketmaster/LiveNation/venue and then sells them to us, for a significantly (@ $20 a pair) lower cost than Ticketmaster/LiveNation/venue, since there are fewer fees.

    I have a hard time believing they're able to buy the tickets for much lower than they sell them to us, if at all. To the extent they make a profit, I'm thinking it's in membership fees since many of us stay in the club for tickets. But to me that seems fair to all involved.

    As for the row 1-2 and 9-10 lottery, I think it strikes the right balance of rewarding seniority, giving everyone a shot at great seats, and thwarting scalpers.
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    McJuicyMcJuicy Posts: 747
    josevolution wrote:
    Reserved tickets are allocated by seniority ... :D:D yeah i said it let the fun begin ;) ..

    what specifically is your issue with the most current system in which 4 rows are decided by a lottery?

    don't you think the band feeds off of the new/added energy in the front row, especially when compared to the same old faces (and please don't feed me any ****shit that those pioneers get as excited hearing even flow, jeremy, or corduroy for the nth time)
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    brolocobroloco Posts: 1,237
    josevolution wrote:
    Reserved tickets are allocated by seniority ...


    hell no!
    lame show-offs
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