Is anyone else afraid the new pj record could be weak?

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  • It couldn't possibly be any weaker than Avoacdo. But I guess that remains to be seen.

    Feels like Avocado has several songs which allude to unfisinished feelings for Beth. :?:
    "No way to save someone who won't take the rope,and just lets go..."
  • PJFAN_seattle
    PJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    I am considering how little they seem to be working on it.
    Hopefully they will all get in the studio together to produce on heluva album!
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  • PJ_kidd wrote:
    I am considering how little they seem to be working on it.
    Hopefully they will all get in the studio together to produce on heluva album!

    Yeah, all I see is them laying around being lazy...they are always off at the awards shows and getting busted blowing thousands of dollars at the strip clubs...and then there's McCready getting pinched in Florida with the 1600 kilos of blow...I wish they'd put a webcam in their studio so we could watch them to make sure they are working hard to satisfy our needs.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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  • PJFAN_seattle
    PJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    PJ_kidd wrote:
    I am considering how little they seem to be working on it.
    Hopefully they will all get in the studio together to produce on heluva album!

    Yeah, all I see is them laying around being lazy...they are always off at the awards shows and getting busted blowing thousands of dollars at the strip clubs...and then there's McCready getting pinched in Florida with the 1600 kilos of blow...I wish they'd put a webcam in their studio so we could watch them to make sure they are working hard to satisfy our needs.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

    LoL thats not what I meant.
    I meant since Ed's doing this big solo tour thing how is he gonna work on it.
    Unless theyre arleady finished recording it?

    Also, they all seem to have their own little projects going on, maybe they are bored with Pearl Jam right now.
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  • PJ_kidd wrote:
    PJ_kidd wrote:
    I am considering how little they seem to be working on it.
    Hopefully they will all get in the studio together to produce on heluva album!

    Yeah, all I see is them laying around being lazy...they are always off at the awards shows and getting busted blowing thousands of dollars at the strip clubs...and then there's McCready getting pinched in Florida with the 1600 kilos of blow...I wish they'd put a webcam in their studio so we could watch them to make sure they are working hard to satisfy our needs.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

    LoL thats not what I meant.
    I meant since Ed's doing this big solo tour thing how is he gonna work on it.
    Unless theyre arleady finished recording it?

    I'm just teasing ya sport....

    Pearl Jam has created and earned the opportunity and privelege of doing things at their own pace...it does come with age and experience...things change a lot as you get older with a band...some things just cannot be rushed...and I, for one think the new record will be exceptional....I really like all but 2 tracks on Avocado...and on most PJ records I like nearly all the tracks...how many other bands can we honestly say that about? No other bands even come close to that for me.... ;)
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  • PJFAN_seattle
    PJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965

    I'm just teasing ya sport....

    Pearl Jam has created and earned the opportunity and privelege of doing things at their own pace...it does come with age and experience...things change a lot as you get older with a band...some things just cannot be rushed...and I, for one think the new record will be exceptional....I really like all but 2 tracks on Avocado...and on most PJ records I like nearly all the tracks...how many other bands can we honestly say that about? No other bands even come close to that for me.... ;)

    Yah I like all the tracks on Avocado I dont know why everyone says it sucks I thought Inside Job was reallyreally good.
    Anyways I'm excited to hear some new news about the new album.
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  • The only track I dislike is come back the rest is fine and I prefer it to Riot Act although my view of Binaural is changed and I think I prefer to the S/T.

    Whatever they deliver I'm sure it will be fine, I'm not sure we can expect anything like Vs , Vitalogy or Yield again but who knows?

    I heard shorter tracks mentioned and Brendan is back on board so that's always a good thing in my book. I've never found any of their albums lame, I think for me RA is their weakest and some like that the best.

    They have always tried to make a good record and most of the time they always deliver something worthwhile.
    I guess it comes down to what you expect from them, Vs and Yield are my favourites but I'm sure some PJ fans might hate those albums.

    All of us don't want the same thing, so some of us will no doubt be satisfied when some will just be disappointed.
  • TallGuyCM
    TallGuyCM Posts: 328
    I agree with whoever said that "Into the Wild" got them optimistic about the next PJ record.

    Although, as a band gets older the likelihood of them putting out a shitty album gets increasingly higher and higher.
  • PJSEMPRE
    PJSEMPRE Posts: 687
    I have high hopes for this album mainly because of ITW. I will hold off panic until I hear it.
    My opinion too.
    I am not a big fan of Riot Act and Avocado, but I really love ITW.
    Let's say knowledge is a tree, yeah.
    It's growing up just like me.
  • megatron
    megatron Posts: 3,420
    otter wrote:
    I voted for McCain just to piss off Eddie.

    this is a joke, right?
    funny for a second..but now more thinking
    ed was so pissed about bush in riot act and the war mainly in pearl jam that maybe that his mind is at ease he can go back to writing about love lost and suicide
    i can only pray :D
  • Back_Pedal
    Back_Pedal Posts: 1,171
    whitepants wrote:
    Regardless of political bent (I personally voted for the Green party), the new PJ album will kick ass again. Have they ever let us down? No.

    Chill. 8-)
    Two words: Riot Act.
    Thanks EPOTTSIII!
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    The only track I dislike is come back the rest is fine and I prefer it to Riot Act although my view of Binaural is changed and I think I prefer to the S/T.

    Whatever they deliver I'm sure it will be fine, I'm not sure we can expect anything like Vs , Vitalogy or Yield again but who knows?

    I heard shorter tracks mentioned and Brendan is back on board so that's always a good thing in my book. I've never found any of their albums lame, I think for me RA is their weakest and some like that the best.

    That's what worries me... short songs. Their best songs are long and epic and take time to deliver... Immortality, Present Tense, In Hiding, All or None, Inside Job, Corduroy, Alive, Even flow, Black, etc. Compare to the short punkish pieces of shit that have clogged the last 3 albums: Gods' Dice, Evacuation, Grievance, Comatose, Big Wave, Save You, Can't Keep, Ghost, Cropduster, Get Right, Help Help, Green Disease... a LOT of throwaway tracks there that nobody is missing from a set. What are the songs people get excited about hearing? The ones I listed before. Shorter songs is NOT a good sign.
  • halszka123
    halszka123 Posts: 1,109
    There was only one time when I was affraid about Their next album. It was after Ten.
    I don't and didn't think the next album will be weak. I can't wait for the moment, and doesn't matter how long it will take, but i'm sure I'll like the album. Ok... maybe only if PJ go the same way as C. Cornell, I would't like it, but it's rather impossible They will do it.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    PJ_kidd wrote:
    [Yeah, all I see is them laying around being lazy...they are always off at the awards shows and getting busted blowing thousands of dollars at the strip clubs...and then there's McCready getting pinched in Florida with the 1600 kilos of blow...I wish they'd put a webcam in their studio so we could watch them to make sure they are working hard to satisfy our needs.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

    LoL thats not what I meant.
    I meant since Ed's doing this big solo tour thing how is he gonna work on it.
    Unless theyre arleady finished recording it?

    I'm just teasing ya sport....

    Pearl Jam has created and earned the opportunity and privelege of doing things at their own pace...it does come with age and experience...things change a lot as you get older with a band...some things just cannot be rushed...and I, for one think the new record will be exceptional....I really like all but 2 tracks on Avocado...and on most PJ records I like nearly all the tracks...how many other bands can we honestly say that about? No other bands even come close to that for me.... ;)

    And I have earned the right to be critical of the band's work. I've listened and loved them for years, so if I say something sucks, it's not to get down on them, it's because I'm disappointed and hold them to a high standard, a standard they set. And no, they haven't been busted buying coke or anything. But all their interviews kind of indicate that the band isn't really working on this together. The interviews talk about passing around tapes with song ideas, Ed never being in the studio and instead popping in now and again to give them half formed lyrics that "need a lot of work", etc. Meanwhile, he's been popping up at every benefit that will have him and doing his own solo tour. As I've said, it's his life and his business what he wants to do, I'm not hating on him for it. But I am saying it doesn't bode well for the album. Compare the vibe we all got to see on Single Video Theory, with a relaxed band hanging around their own little studio batting ideas around and pretty much playing live. Compare that to the stories we hear now... they record in some posh studio in LA (which they said they hated doing for Vs) and never give any indication they've ever been in there at the same time... quite the opposite in fact. I don't think people are out of bounds for wondering where this band and album are headed.
  • EBowie
    EBowie Posts: 533
    The title of this thread alone indicates a big-time need for some more hobbies.
  • Nothingman54
    Nothingman54 Posts: 2,251
    The last one sucked. Im sure this wont be much better? I hope they prove me wrong.
    I'll be back
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Nope, I got over those fears back in the 90's. I have finally come to terms with my PJ love, that I will most likely like all of their new music. So far, that has rang true. Sure, i have a favorite album, which by nature I have ranked them, but i do love them all.
  • EBowie
    EBowie Posts: 533
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Nope, I got over those fears back in the 90's. I have finally come to terms with my PJ love, that I will most likely like all of their new music. So far, that has rang true. Sure, i have a favorite album, which by nature I have ranked them, but i do love them all.

    Well said---I feel the same way.
  • inMytree_19
    inMytree_19 Toronto, Canada Posts: 177
    "Given that the last 2 albums were very weak, and the one before that was just good, I think it's a distinct possiblity. "


    not sure what two albums you were listening to, must of been different from the last two PJ albums i bought (which were not by any means weak)
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,827
    Afraid of what ? ..the end
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....