Hey Obama voters, I have a few questions for you...

KDH12

JB811 wrote:

callen wrote:

Obama will do a better job in current curcumstances than most of the presidents in our history.

Yes, and his decision to pursue giving 12 million illegal alien criminals citizenship when there are millions of Americans out of work is a great answer. And please save the excuse that these are jobs that Americans won't do because every time criminal aliens are arrested there are hundreds of Americans applying for those jobs.

I know first generation Mexicans that won't even do what the illegals are doing

you ever work in a tortilla factory, wash dishes in a restaurant, or hand pick vegetables in the fields in the middle of summer?

Cosmo

KDH12 wrote:

JB811 wrote:

Yes, and his decision to pursue giving 12 million illegal alien criminals citizenship when there are millions of Americans out of work is a great answer. And please save the excuse that these are jobs that Americans won't do because every time criminal aliens are arrested there are hundreds of Americans applying for those jobs.

I know first generation Mexicans that won't even do what the illegals are doing

you ever work in a tortilla factory, wash dishes in a restaurant, or hand pick vegetables in the fields in the middle of summer?

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And somehow... I just can't picture 'hundreds of Americans' lining up to take that job that cleans up porta pottys at construction sites and Coachella Festivals. But, hey... if someone wants that fucking job, they can fucking have it.

Smellyman

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=223862&title=Baracknophobia---Obey

Anon

KDH12 wrote:

JB811 wrote:

callen wrote:

Obama will do a better job in current curcumstances than most of the presidents in our history.

Yes, and his decision to pursue giving 12 million illegal alien criminals citizenship when there are millions of Americans out of work is a great answer. And please save the excuse that these are jobs that Americans won't do because every time criminal aliens are arrested there are hundreds of Americans applying for those jobs.

I know first generation Mexicans that won't even do what the illegals are doing

you ever work in a tortilla factory, wash dishes in a restaurant, or hand pick vegetables in the fields in the middle of summer?

I actually worked a kitchen when I was 16 for a summer, and the following summer worked the fields picking onions with nothing but Mexicans. I'm also not above cutting my own grass before someone throws that one out.

Anon

ledvedderman wrote:

I assume you would put part of the blame on former President Bush for his lack of action on this issue so near and dear to your heart? Wouldn't you?

Bush was at least arresting and deporting them in the latter years of his second term. Obama and Napolitano (sp) ordered ICE to release the ones that they just arrested and let them go back to work! This coupled with that hag traitor Pelosi saying that ICE is un-AMERICAN. These GD politicians care more about illegal alien criminals than they do Americans out of work.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/03/navarrette.jobs/

Cosmo

JB811 wrote:

ledvedderman wrote:

I assume you would put part of the blame on former President Bush for his lack of action on this issue so near and dear to your heart? Wouldn't you?

Bush was at least arresting and deporting them in the latter years of his second term. Obama and Napolitano (sp) ordered ICE to release the ones that they just arrested and let them go back to work! This coupled with that hag traitor Pelosi saying that ICE is un-AMERICAN. These GD politicians care more about illegal alien criminals than they do Americans out of work.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/03/navarrette.jobs/

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I read your posted article...
How about going after the EMPLOYER? That is the SOURCE of the issue. They are willing to hire, often with sub-standard pay, to work, often times in sub-standard conditions and the employer doesn't have to pay taxes, insurance or wokman's compensation... which he would be required to pay for U.S. workers. They will not have to adhere to OSHA safety requirements, either.
There is your criminal.
Go after every American who employs an illegal... stop the reason WHY they come here. Even the guy who picks up illegals at the Home Depot to bust out a concrete driveway or clear brush on his property... HE is a criminal.
So, the next time you go to a restaurant... if you eat there and they have illegal immigrants in the kitchen and dishwashing station... you are contributing to the problem.

Anon

I rarely eat out.

Also the employer should face jail time, and the illegals should be deported, both are guilty. This administration sure seems hell-bent on kissing illegal alien ass though.

Commy

JB811 wrote:

I rarely eat out.

Also the employer should face jail time, and the illegals should be deported, both are guilty. This administration sure seems hell-bent on kissing illegal alien ass though.

isn't everybody in the US either an immigrant or descended from one? by everybody I mean every single person in this country.


when did the close the gate? and who made that decision.

Anon

Do you understand the difference between illegal and legal? What about following laws or breaking them?

Wilds

Commy wrote:

JB811 wrote:

I rarely eat out.

Also the employer should face jail time, and the illegals should be deported, both are guilty. This administration sure seems hell-bent on kissing illegal alien ass though.

isn't everybody in the US either an immigrant or descended from one? by everybody I mean every single person in this country.


when did the close the gate? and who made that decision.

I know a couple Native Americans who would argue this point with you.

Wilds

Cosmo wrote:

JB811 wrote:

ledvedderman wrote:

I assume you would put part of the blame on former President Bush for his lack of action on this issue so near and dear to your heart? Wouldn't you?

Bush was at least arresting and deporting them in the latter years of his second term. Obama and Napolitano (sp) ordered ICE to release the ones that they just arrested and let them go back to work! This coupled with that hag traitor Pelosi saying that ICE is un-AMERICAN. These GD politicians care more about illegal alien criminals than they do Americans out of work.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/03/navarrette.jobs/

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I read your posted article...
How about going after the EMPLOYER? That is the SOURCE of the issue. They are willing to hire, often with sub-standard pay, to work, often times in sub-standard conditions and the employer doesn't have to pay taxes, insurance or wokman's compensation... which he would be required to pay for U.S. workers. They will not have to adhere to OSHA safety requirements, either.
There is your criminal.
Go after every American who employs an illegal... stop the reason WHY they come here. Even the guy who picks up illegals at the Home Depot to bust out a concrete driveway or clear brush on his property... HE is a criminal.
So, the next time you go to a restaurant... if you eat there and they have illegal immigrants in the kitchen and dishwashing station... you are contributing to the problem.

I don't disagree in principle about everyone is responsible, but the system basically allows for this. The system dictates that it is acceptable.

The Law government could put pressure on Business and law enforcement to not allow these workers to congregate, yet that doesn't happen.

They have become an accepted part of the system.

OceansJenny

callen wrote:

Have a question for you.....where/are you okay with having a total incompetent ignorant VP a heartbeat away from being the president? I sure wasn't. If I had a corporation to run I'd rather have Obama at the helm than McCain/Palin. Obama will do a better job in current curcumstances than most of the presidents in our history.

I'm with Callen... thats enough to make me vote for Obama. Talk about inexperience... at least Obama has a brain. McCain kissed the presidency goodbye once he added Palin to the ticket.

Also, not everyone who voted for Obama is a hard core liberal who had tears running down their cheeks while waving ten Obama signs at whatever rally/celebration. I already mentioned one reason. A lot of people try to simplify decisions and often come out with skewed results; as in, I can be 100% positive that a majority of voters didn't read into all the issues that each campaign ran for. I would say a lot of people strictly followed party lines, voted black v. white, or voted "not the guy who will probably be like bush". I'm sure a handful voted "not idiot VP". Actually most people strictly follow party lines; it doesn't matter whose up there on the ticket.

So, your initial "inquisition" (aka "rant") will most likely not address the people you are thinking about, because those hardcore liberals with tears running down their cheeks for obama don't exist in high masses. They're just what you see on TV. So yes, I was an Obama voter, and no, none of your questions apply to me.