Into The Wild Vinyl

not for me?

analogueaddict72 wrote:

ITW should be made available again, the thing that pisses me off are those not even playing it and probably don't even own a deck or have any plans to buy one.

Well I'm one of the black circlers since 94 and I've had enough of it, Benny I'm not that fussed about, yeah it would be nice but RVM would be what I'd really like and ITW as well.

I'm sure when PJ had their statement about vinyl on Vitalogy sleeve didn't intend people to buy loads of copies then post pictures of sealed copies to piss other fans off. Those who are saying they are investments are likely to see the value decrease when superior better packaged versions emerge over the next few years and serves you fucking right.

I've never bought vinyl for it to be worth more, it's to be played, I recently managed to secure via Ebay John Frusciante's album "Inside of Emptiness" on vinyl and I'm chuffed to bits. I bought awesome Empyrean recently and followed it with with the Kid A flavoured "A Sphere In The Heart Of Silence" . Under the impression I'd be waiting for the unlikely repressing of this I managed to win it for $46, it's sealed and not played. I guarantee you I'll putting an end to that when it arrives, it will be going on the turntable again and again.

I'm reliably informed by my friend who turned me on to John F that this is his best album yet and pretty damn rare to get hold of but it won;t becoming something to stick on the wall, I'm gonna spin that black circle.

Vinyl is superior and more fulfilling than digital formats and it's a crime to see it as wall art, play it or sell it to someone who will, you can't take it with you.

Great post!

hopethatuchoke

analogueaddict72 wrote:

ITW should be made available again, the thing that pisses me off are those not even playing it and probably don't even own a deck or have any plans to buy one.

Well I'm one of the black circlers since 94 and I've had enough of it, Benny I'm not that fussed about, yeah it would be nice but RVM would be what I'd really like and ITW as well.

I'm sure when PJ had their statement about vinyl on Vitalogy sleeve didn't intend people to buy loads of copies then post pictures of sealed copies to piss other fans off. Those who are saying they are investments are likely to see the value decrease when superior better packaged versions emerge over the next few years and serves you fucking right.

I've never bought vinyl for it to be worth more, it's to be played, I recently managed to secure via Ebay John Frusciante's album "Inside of Emptiness" on vinyl and I'm chuffed to bits. I bought awesome Empyrean recently and followed it with with the Kid A flavoured "A Sphere In The Heart Of Silence" . Under the impression I'd be waiting for the unlikely repressing of this I managed to win it for $46, it's sealed and not played. I guarantee you I'll putting an end to that when it arrives, it will be going on the turntable again and again.

I'm reliably informed by my friend who turned me on to John F that this is his best album yet and pretty damn rare to get hold of but it won;t becoming something to stick on the wall, I'm gonna spin that black circle.

Vinyl is superior and more fulfilling than digital formats and it's a crime to see it as wall art, play it or sell it to someone who will, you can't take it with you.

Judgmental much? It's not your place to tell people why or how they should collect their vinyl. Not everybody has or can afford a turntable. Some people like the oversized artwork. Not everyone is an anal audiophile who can tell the difference between CD and vinyl. I could see maybe getting pissed if there were original songs on these vinyls that can't be heard anywhere other than a turntable but virtually every song available on vinyl is available on cd or in some sort of digital audio format. Benaroya is readily available at any record store. Sorry you might only be able to hear a small bit of Ed's tambourine on a silver disc as opposed to a somewhat clearer tambourine sound on a red vinyl.

And yes some buy it as an investment. Congrats on buying vinyls in order to play them and I apologize on behalf of the non-pretentious people on this board who don't buy them for the same reason you do.

ComeToTX

i collect vinyl to listen so it wasn't a huge deal. i am upset that in my SDE i got 2 disc 1's of drop in the park and haven't heard back on getting the 2nd one yet.

Yellow Bedwetter

norm wrote:

goingtoverona wrote:

does anyone know anything about the ITW picture disc vinyls? i saw one on ebay a while back that sold for mad cash like 600 or 700 but the thing looked pretty sweet. anyone have any idea how many are out there or where to buy one?

there are about 150-200...they were given out to the cast and crew i believe

wow i didnt know that...i want a picture disc

now that i have a full-time paying job im buying the next 'roya vinyl i see on the bay

Snoopy Died For Our Sins

You can buy a turntable for $100...sure it's not a big fancy perfect one, but it's new and it gets the job done until you decide it's worth it to you to blow more serious money on a turntable....

I frame and hang the album covers and carefully store the vinyl, so it can be listened to and the art can be enjoyed...

If Pearl Jam ever plays Billings, MT I promise to have a MAJOR BBQ at my house and you are all invited for free...just BYOB...and, no, I am not kidding!!!

But, I do have 2 little children, so's ya can't sleep over after the show, but a free meal amongst friends?

YEAH!!!!! :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

bazzer

36 year old PJ addict wrote:

You can buy a turntable for $100...sure it's not a big fancy perfect one, but it's new and it gets the job done until you decide it's worth it to you to blow more serious money on a turntable...

And by then, all your vinyl that you've been playing on your cheap turntable/stylus are ruined. I prefer to save my vinyl for the day I buy the turntable I want. Knowing that I'll be dropping it down on virgin unplayed vinyl is what keeps me collecting...

strummers

redrock wrote:

ComeToTX wrote:

seeing how rare my ITW is makes me pissed it arrived with a tear on the inside cover. my favorite piece of vinyl i own by far still!

Where did you get yours from? My cover had a tear on the top bit (I think a number were damaged like that). I e-mailed and got a replacement cover (obviously they could not send a 'complete' replacement.

Sheeit - I didn't even think about getting a replacement cover. Both of ours arrived like that with splits in the top.

Snoopy Died For Our Sins

bazzer wrote:

36 year old PJ addict wrote:

You can buy a turntable for $100...sure it's not a big fancy perfect one, but it's new and it gets the job done until you decide it's worth it to you to blow more serious money on a turntable...

And by then, all your vinyl that you've been playing on your cheap turntable/stylus are ruined. I prefer to save my vinyl for the day I buy the turntable I want. Knowing that I'll be dropping it down on virgin unplayed vinyl is what keeps me collecting...

I hear ya on that, but you can buy good stylus's that won't damage your records...I personally own a ridiculously expensive turntable, but I'm saying this for those who have purchased used LPs that they really want to listen to...not for diehards, obviously

bazzer

36 year old PJ addict wrote:

bazzer wrote:

36 year old PJ addict wrote:

You can buy a turntable for $100...sure it's not a big fancy perfect one, but it's new and it gets the job done until you decide it's worth it to you to blow more serious money on a turntable...

And by then, all your vinyl that you've been playing on your cheap turntable/stylus are ruined. I prefer to save my vinyl for the day I buy the turntable I want. Knowing that I'll be dropping it down on virgin unplayed vinyl is what keeps me collecting...

I hear ya on that, but you can buy good stylus's that won't damage your records...I personally own a ridiculously expensive turntable, but I'm saying this for those who have purchased used LPs that they really want to listen to...not for diehards, obviously

I was thinking more of the setup than the needle primarily (where's the picture of the Fisher Price turntable that's always being posted?).

What are you running?

Zod

Aural Exploits offered replacement covers? Crap! Mine has a tear on the top as well, but I figured they were in such scarce supply all I'd get was my money back, and I rather keep the vinyl.

Oh well at least I have a copy

redrock

hopethatuchoke wrote:

Some people like the oversized artwork. Not everyone is an anal audiophile who can tell the difference between CD and vinyl.

I grew up with vinyl... really didn't have a choice. I remember when CDs first came out, I was sooo happy... no more scratches, jumping stylus when too much movement around it, buying favourite lps over and over again because they got all gray and used from playing.... I still have all my vinyl and still buy new sometimes. What I do love with vinyl (and that you don't have with CDs) is the look, the feel and yes, the artwork. Heresy, I hear you say.... but that's the way it is.

analogueaddict72

hopethatuchoke wrote:

analogueaddict72 wrote:

ITW should be made available again, the thing that pisses me off are those not even playing it and probably don't even own a deck or have any plans to buy one.

Well I'm one of the black circlers since 94 and I've had enough of it, Benny I'm not that fussed about, yeah it would be nice but RVM would be what I'd really like and ITW as well.

I'm sure when PJ had their statement about vinyl on Vitalogy sleeve didn't intend people to buy loads of copies then post pictures of sealed copies to piss other fans off. Those who are saying they are investments are likely to see the value decrease when superior better packaged versions emerge over the next few years and serves you fucking right.

I've never bought vinyl for it to be worth more, it's to be played, I recently managed to secure via Ebay John Frusciante's album "Inside of Emptiness" on vinyl and I'm chuffed to bits. I bought awesome Empyrean recently and followed it with with the Kid A flavoured "A Sphere In The Heart Of Silence" . Under the impression I'd be waiting for the unlikely repressing of this I managed to win it for $46, it's sealed and not played. I guarantee you I'll putting an end to that when it arrives, it will be going on the turntable again and again.

I'm reliably informed by my friend who turned me on to John F that this is his best album yet and pretty damn rare to get hold of but it won;t becoming something to stick on the wall, I'm gonna spin that black circle.

Vinyl is superior and more fulfilling than digital formats and it's a crime to see it as wall art, play it or sell it to someone who will, you can't take it with you.

Judgmental much? It's not your place to tell people why or how they should collect their vinyl. Not everybody has or can afford a turntable. Some people like the oversized artwork. Not everyone is an anal audiophile who can tell the difference between CD and vinyl. I could see maybe getting pissed if there were original songs on these vinyls that can't be heard anywhere other than a turntable but virtually every song available on vinyl is available on cd or in some sort of digital audio format. Benaroya is readily available at any record store. Sorry you might only be able to hear a small bit of Ed's tambourine on a silver disc as opposed to a somewhat clearer tambourine sound on a red vinyl.

And yes some buy it as an investment. Congrats on buying vinyls in order to play them and I apologize on behalf of the non-pretentious people on this board who don't buy them for the same reason you do.

The point is I don't like CD and rarely buy them only when there is no other alternative, by sticking it on the wall and admiring your not doing with it the purpose it was made for.

Dressed up as much as you like but there are plenty of people who would enjoy those records the way supposed to, people who buy them just to say look what I've got and stick it on the wall have got too much money and clearly nothing really important to spend it on, in a time when people are scrimping for the next penny and people are buying things like this not to use, I find it very sad and somewhat pathetic and I'm entitled to that view whether you like it or not!

ledvedderman

analogueaddict72 wrote:

hopethatuchoke wrote:

analogueaddict72 wrote:

ITW should be made available again, the thing that pisses me off are those not even playing it and probably don't even own a deck or have any plans to buy one.

Well I'm one of the black circlers since 94 and I've had enough of it, Benny I'm not that fussed about, yeah it would be nice but RVM would be what I'd really like and ITW as well.

I'm sure when PJ had their statement about vinyl on Vitalogy sleeve didn't intend people to buy loads of copies then post pictures of sealed copies to piss other fans off. Those who are saying they are investments are likely to see the value decrease when superior better packaged versions emerge over the next few years and serves you fucking right.

I've never bought vinyl for it to be worth more, it's to be played, I recently managed to secure via Ebay John Frusciante's album "Inside of Emptiness" on vinyl and I'm chuffed to bits. I bought awesome Empyrean recently and followed it with with the Kid A flavoured "A Sphere In The Heart Of Silence" . Under the impression I'd be waiting for the unlikely repressing of this I managed to win it for $46, it's sealed and not played. I guarantee you I'll putting an end to that when it arrives, it will be going on the turntable again and again.

I'm reliably informed by my friend who turned me on to John F that this is his best album yet and pretty damn rare to get hold of but it won;t becoming something to stick on the wall, I'm gonna spin that black circle.

Vinyl is superior and more fulfilling than digital formats and it's a crime to see it as wall art, play it or sell it to someone who will, you can't take it with you.

Judgmental much? It's not your place to tell people why or how they should collect their vinyl. Not everybody has or can afford a turntable. Some people like the oversized artwork. Not everyone is an anal audiophile who can tell the difference between CD and vinyl. I could see maybe getting pissed if there were original songs on these vinyls that can't be heard anywhere other than a turntable but virtually every song available on vinyl is available on cd or in some sort of digital audio format. Benaroya is readily available at any record store. Sorry you might only be able to hear a small bit of Ed's tambourine on a silver disc as opposed to a somewhat clearer tambourine sound on a red vinyl.

And yes some buy it as an investment. Congrats on buying vinyls in order to play them and I apologize on behalf of the non-pretentious people on this board who don't buy them for the same reason you do.

The point is I don't like CD and rarely buy them only when there is no other alternative, by sticking it on the wall and admiring your not doing with it the purpose it was made for.

Dressed up as much as you like but there are plenty of people who would enjoy those records the way supposed to, people who buy them just to say look what I've got and stick it on the wall have got too much money and clearly nothing really important to spend it on, in a time when people are scrimping for the next penny and people are buying things like this not to use, I find it very sad and somewhat pathetic and I'm entitled to that view whether you like it or not!

my office looks damned good with all my PJ records framed behind me...never to tough a needle! Look how terrible and evil I am because I enjoy displaying my love for the band in the form of a framed record.



Take your silly argument elsewhere on your...

PABLINHO

jmk wrote:

Same goes for the Benaroya Hall vinyl set. Why don't we make a petition to have these two re-issued! These first pressings will still be valuable and remain collectors items, even if re-issues were to be released.

I agree, I don´t think it will affect the value of the first pressings. I will join the petition of the two albums no matter I am interested in ITW.

PABLINHO

cropduster82 wrote:

redrock wrote:

cropduster82 wrote:

I already own both Benaroya Hall and ITW on vinyl and I would be in favor of re-issuing these. Too many people were left out on the original sale

That's the whole idea behind limited pressings... limited.

cropduster82 wrote:

You are right that the original pressings will still hold their value, so no one who owns them should worry about the value plummeting.

The value will not 'plummet' but it will certainly decrease. A lot of people looking for these albums are not collectors per se, they are just the people who did not get one in the original sale. Most of them really don't care if it is an original press or not. If a re-issue is to flood the market, those are the ones that will purchase it and no longer seek the 'original'. Therefore less demand for the original (because demand was not for the 'status of the item' - ie original but for the item itself, ie a vinyl), therefore lower price for the original pressing.

I see you're point about the value decreasing a bit. But for me, I don't really care about what it's worth. Honestly. I don't plan on ever flipping it for $$. I enjoy listening to it every now and again and that's the beauty of it. For me it's like any other record I own, when I feel like listening, I do. Whether it's worth $7 or $700 I will enjoy it either way. I wouldn't care if they were re-issued because more people could enjoy them like I do.

Totally agree, I think none of us want the record to sell it!! I want it because I couldn´t have the chance to buy it and I do enjoy listening to the music I love no matter I paid 3 or 120 bucks.

PABLINHO

analogueaddict72 wrote:

ITW should be made available again, the thing that pisses me off are those not even playing it and probably don't even own a deck or have any plans to buy one.

Well I'm one of the black circlers since 94 and I've had enough of it, Benny I'm not that fussed about, yeah it would be nice but RVM would be what I'd really like and ITW as well.

I'm sure when PJ had their statement about vinyl on Vitalogy sleeve didn't intend people to buy loads of copies then post pictures of sealed copies to piss other fans off. Those who are saying they are investments are likely to see the value decrease when superior better packaged versions emerge over the next few years and serves you fucking right.

I've never bought vinyl for it to be worth more, it's to be played, I recently managed to secure via Ebay John Frusciante's album "Inside of Emptiness" on vinyl and I'm chuffed to bits. I bought awesome Empyrean recently and followed it with with the Kid A flavoured "A Sphere In The Heart Of Silence" . Under the impression I'd be waiting for the unlikely repressing of this I managed to win it for $46, it's sealed and not played. I guarantee you I'll putting an end to that when it arrives, it will be going on the turntable again and again.

I'm reliably informed by my friend who turned me on to John F that this is his best album yet and pretty damn rare to get hold of but it won;t becoming something to stick on the wall, I'm gonna spin that black circle.

Vinyl is superior and more fulfilling than digital formats and it's a crime to see it as wall art, play it or sell it to someone who will, you can't take it with you.

That´s it!!! I have all my vinyls ready to play in the shelf, they are for the ones (like you) who don´t like the cold surface of a CD and enjoy the magic of music in its original state...

hopethatuchoke

analogueaddict72 wrote:

hopethatuchoke wrote:

Judgmental much? It's not your place to tell people why or how they should collect their vinyl. Not everybody has or can afford a turntable. Some people like the oversized artwork. Not everyone is an anal audiophile who can tell the difference between CD and vinyl. I could see maybe getting pissed if there were original songs on these vinyls that can't be heard anywhere other than a turntable but virtually every song available on vinyl is available on cd or in some sort of digital audio format. Benaroya is readily available at any record store. Sorry you might only be able to hear a small bit of Ed's tambourine on a silver disc as opposed to a somewhat clearer tambourine sound on a red vinyl.

And yes some buy it as an investment. Congrats on buying vinyls in order to play them and I apologize on behalf of the non-pretentious people on this board who don't buy them for the same reason you do.

The point is I don't like CD and rarely buy them only when there is no other alternative, by sticking it on the wall and admiring your not doing with it the purpose it was made for.

Dressed up as much as you like but there are plenty of people who would enjoy those records the way supposed to, people who buy them just to say look what I've got and stick it on the wall have got too much money and clearly nothing really important to spend it on, in a time when people are scrimping for the next penny and people are buying things like this not to use, I find it very sad and somewhat pathetic and I'm entitled to that view whether you like it or not!

You make it sound as though said albums are impossible to get because of people who don't listen to them. They can all be had, you will just have to pay secondary market prices. You aren't being deprived of anything, just deprived of the price you think it should be.

As yes, you are entitled to your opinion on this matter. Just know you are coming across as pretentious and as the picture above demonstrated....on a high horse.

PJammer4life

Let it be a lesson..when the Ten Club comes out with the word LIMITED and VINYL..you should buy quick. Everyone knows what happened with Benyroyal Vinyl. So when Ten Club said Into the Wild will be LIMITED for $30 I picked it up. Now that it is $300..you can't complain..just like I can't complain that I didn't pick up Ford stock at $1.00

DewieCox

analogueaddict72 wrote:

hopethatuchoke wrote:

analogueaddict72 wrote:

ITW should be made available again, the thing that pisses me off are those not even playing it and probably don't even own a deck or have any plans to buy one.

Well I'm one of the black circlers since 94 and I've had enough of it, Benny I'm not that fussed about, yeah it would be nice but RVM would be what I'd really like and ITW as well.

I'm sure when PJ had their statement about vinyl on Vitalogy sleeve didn't intend people to buy loads of copies then post pictures of sealed copies to piss other fans off. Those who are saying they are investments are likely to see the value decrease when superior better packaged versions emerge over the next few years and serves you fucking right.

I've never bought vinyl for it to be worth more, it's to be played, I recently managed to secure via Ebay John Frusciante's album "Inside of Emptiness" on vinyl and I'm chuffed to bits. I bought awesome Empyrean recently and followed it with with the Kid A flavoured "A Sphere In The Heart Of Silence" . Under the impression I'd be waiting for the unlikely repressing of this I managed to win it for $46, it's sealed and not played. I guarantee you I'll putting an end to that when it arrives, it will be going on the turntable again and again.

I'm reliably informed by my friend who turned me on to John F that this is his best album yet and pretty damn rare to get hold of but it won;t becoming something to stick on the wall, I'm gonna spin that black circle.

Vinyl is superior and more fulfilling than digital formats and it's a crime to see it as wall art, play it or sell it to someone who will, you can't take it with you.

Judgmental much? It's not your place to tell people why or how they should collect their vinyl. Not everybody has or can afford a turntable. Some people like the oversized artwork. Not everyone is an anal audiophile who can tell the difference between CD and vinyl. I could see maybe getting pissed if there were original songs on these vinyls that can't be heard anywhere other than a turntable but virtually every song available on vinyl is available on cd or in some sort of digital audio format. Benaroya is readily available at any record store. Sorry you might only be able to hear a small bit of Ed's tambourine on a silver disc as opposed to a somewhat clearer tambourine sound on a red vinyl.

And yes some buy it as an investment. Congrats on buying vinyls in order to play them and I apologize on behalf of the non-pretentious people on this board who don't buy them for the same reason you do.

The point is I don't like CD and rarely buy them only when there is no other alternative, by sticking it on the wall and admiring your not doing with it the purpose it was made for.

Dressed up as much as you like but there are plenty of people who would enjoy those records the way supposed to, people who buy them just to say look what I've got and stick it on the wall have got too much money and clearly nothing really important to spend it on, in a time when people are scrimping for the next penny and people are buying things like this not to use, I find it very sad and somewhat pathetic and I'm entitled to that view whether you like it or not!

I'm sorry, but what does people framing their vinyl have to do with the economy. They can use them however they want. If every vinyl was played, they would be more expensive b/c then they would never show up on ebay.

It sucks that people buy them just to frame them, but it's not really for you to decide.

hopethatuchoke

PJammer4life wrote:

Let it be a lesson..when the Ten Club comes out with the word LIMITED and VINYL..you should buy quick. Everyone knows what happened with Benyroyal Vinyl. So when Ten Club said Into the Wild will be LIMITED for $30 I picked it up. Now that it is $300..you can't complain..just like I can't complain that I didn't pick up Ford stock at $1.00

It was also announced in advance that Aural Exploits would be selling them as well and I don't think they sold out on either site in minutes. You snooze you lose.