Man, fuck PETA

milarso

I used to think that the group was a bunch of folks I didn't really agree with using its First Amendment rights to get out their message. A bunch of people that were kind of annoying, but basically harmless.
Now, if this is true, I think it is the most hypocritical group of assholes ever.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/petas-pet-slaughterhouse/

Commy

don't click on following link unless you are prepared for very disturbing images of animals.


I'm not sure about 95% of animals being euthanized, but according to PETA this is why they euthanize http://blog.peta.org/archives/2009/03/w ... thaniz.php.

Commy

Policy on euthanasia (from Wiki)

PETA is against the no kill movement and euthanizes the majority of animals surrendered to them.[74][75] It recommends euthanasia for certain breeds of animals, such as pit bull terriers,[76] and in certain situations for unwanted animals in shelters: for example, for those living for long periods in cramped cages.[77][78] Ingrid Newkirk has said: "Our service is to provide a peaceful and painless death to animals who no one wants."[79] PETA recommends the use of an intravenous injection of sodium pentobarbital provided it is administered by a trained professional.[78]

Before founding PETA, Newkirk was chief of animal-disease control and director of the animal shelter in the District of Columbia.[76] She has said that she was shocked by the way the animals were treated in the shelter, and by the methods used to euthanize them. She told Michael Specter of The New Yorker: "I went to the front office all the time, and I would say, "John is kicking the dogs and putting them into freezers." Or I would say, "They are stepping on the animals, crushing them like grapes, and they don't care." In the end, I would go to work early, before anyone got there, and I would just kill the animals myself. Because I couldn't stand to let them go through that. I must have killed a thousand of them, sometimes dozens every day. Some of those people would take pleasure in making them suffer. Driving home every night, I would cry just thinking about it. And I just felt, to my bones, this cannot be right."[80]

PETA says that it takes in feral cat colonies with diseases such as feline AIDS and leukemia, stray dogs, litters of parvo-infected puppies, and backyard dogs, and as such it would be unrealistic and unkind to operate a no-kill policy.[77] Newkirk has said: "It is a totally rotten business, but sometimes the only kind option for some animals is to put them to sleep forever."[81]

milarso

Commy wrote:

don't click on following link unless you are prepared for very disturbing images of animals.


I'm not sure about 95% of animals being euthanized, but according to PETA this is why they euthanize http://blog.peta.org/archives/2009/03/w ... thaniz.php.

I guess I didn't really get an answer on why they euthenize, other than everyone else is at fault for not getting their pets spayed or neutered, and they only euthenize animals that they consider to be in misery. Which, according to the records from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, is pretty much every animal they house.

I also take issue with the blog's opening, as I have worked in several different animal shelters and never once came across anything that even close to resembled what the author encountered. And I did a lot of pro bono work in some of the poorest shelters in Detroit.

I'm not saying what she saw never happened, it just sounds very much like they are trying to cover their ass by making themselves out to be some kind of white knight. "It's not our fault we killed thousands of animals, it is all on everyone else. We just have to do the dirty work."

I don't know. Just gets me fired up. :(

Commy

yeah., 95% is incredible. and I checked, the number comes from a report filed by PETA to the state of Virginia, -its accurate.

pretty unbelievable.

SolarWorld

PETA is a scam.

Commy

SolarWorld wrote:

PETA is a scam.

I forget what university it was, but they they were testing massive brain injuries, like how to treat them. in order to get the right situation they would break a baboon's skull and then figure out how to treat the animals. now that's fucked up. and that kind of shit has stopped, thanks to PETA. and there were reports of some farmer skinning hogs alive, that stopped too. there's a long list of some terrible things that PETA has put a stop too. they've done a lot of good.

they're not perfect, but they've done a lot for animal rights.

VINNY GOOMBA

FUCK PETA.

youngster

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

FUCK PETA.

+1

Commy

cropduster82 wrote:

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

FUCK PETA.

+1

yeah we should be able to torture animals if we want. goddamn PETA.

youngster

Commy wrote:

cropduster82 wrote:

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

FUCK PETA.

+1

yeah we should be able to torture animals if we want. goddamn PETA.

Right, and they should be able to throw paint on someone who wears fur. Just cause you don't agree with it, doesn't make it right. I don't agree with torturing animals. In fact, I think it's horrific and those who do it should be punished severely. Point is, animal torture still happens even though PETA exists. It will happen if they don't. It's sad but true. I don't like PETA because of the holier than thou attitude of the organization. I mean they protested the Westminster Dog Show dressed as the KKK! Yes, goddamn PETA. Because you breed a show dog, it's animal cruelty. And don't eat meat, or chicken. Where will it end? It's obvious they can't care for all the animals they claim they save and the above article speaks for itself. It's hypocritical.


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleash ... ts/page/2/

milarso

Commy wrote:

I forget what university it was, but they they were testing massive brain injuries, like how to treat them. in order to get the right situation they would break a baboon's skull and then figure out how to treat the animals. now that's fucked up. and that kind of shit has stopped, thanks to PETA. and there were reports of some farmer skinning hogs alive, that stopped too. there's a long list of some terrible things that PETA has put a stop too. they've done a lot of good.

they're not perfect, but they've done a lot for animal rights.

I'm not going to disagree that they have some good. And as a pet owner, and animal lover, I think defenseless animals should have a voice, and have people looking out for them.
But the more and more I hear and see about PETA, I'm starting to think that they are more in it for the theatrics and for trying to shock people into agreeing with their ideals, than actually helping animals.
I'm starting to wonder if they are working harder to be "that shocking animal rights group" rather than doing the most that they can for animals.

VINNY GOOMBA

cropduster82 wrote:

Right, and they should be able to throw paint on someone who wears fur. Just cause you don't agree with it, doesn't make it right. I don't agree with torturing animals. In fact, I think it's horrific and those who do it should be punished severely. Point is, animal torture still happens even though PETA exists. It will happen if they don't. It's sad but true. I don't like PETA because of the holier than thou attitude of the organization. I mean they protested the Westminster Dog Show dressed as the KKK! Yes, goddamn PETA. Because you breed a show dog, it's animal cruelty. And don't eat meat, or chicken. Where will it end? It's obvious they can't care for all the animals they claim they save and the above article speaks for itself. It's hypocritical.


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleash ... ts/page/2/

PETA tortures people. People are animals. Therefore, PETA tortures animals.

youngster

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

cropduster82 wrote:

Right, and they should be able to throw paint on someone who wears fur. Just cause you don't agree with it, doesn't make it right. I don't agree with torturing animals. In fact, I think it's horrific and those who do it should be punished severely. Point is, animal torture still happens even though PETA exists. It will happen if they don't. It's sad but true. I don't like PETA because of the holier than thou attitude of the organization. I mean they protested the Westminster Dog Show dressed as the KKK! Yes, goddamn PETA. Because you breed a show dog, it's animal cruelty. And don't eat meat, or chicken. Where will it end? It's obvious they can't care for all the animals they claim they save and the above article speaks for itself. It's hypocritical.


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleash ... ts/page/2/

PETA tortures people. People are animals. Therefore, PETA tortures animals.

Good point.

megatron

Commy wrote:

cropduster82 wrote:

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

FUCK PETA.

+1

yeah we should be able to torture animals if we want. goddamn PETA.

im with the people for ethical treatment of threads
stop

SPEEDY MCCREADY

i wonder if the members of peta feed their pets........ dog food and cat food???

isnt dog food and cat food ground up COWS and CHICKENS????

or are the pets also vegetarian????

just a thought....

decides2dream

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

i wonder if the members of peta feed their pets........ dog food and cat food???

isnt dog food and cat food ground up COWS and CHICKENS????

or are the pets also vegetarian????

just a thought....

you can actually buy vegetarian dog and cat food right in petco and i am sure other stores. also, many people make their own food, feed a raw foods diet, etc. so i would imagine that peta members do not in fact feed their pets commercial food made from animal parts. of course, only hypothesis.



that said, i am on the fence with peta. back in my younger years i was a pretty fierce supporter and member of the organization, even went to a few support meetings locally. i was a vegetarian, didn't wear leather, etc. i have mellowed with age, and sure....changed my stance a good deal, and i do eat meat and wear leather again, tho anti-fur and anti-cruelty. they are a little "extreme" for me nowadays but i do believe peta has done a LOT of good for the welfare of animals, and they still do, a viable organization. i did not read the article in the OP, but i will say that sometimes euthanization is the kindest choice. it's a tough decision, and i am not saying they make the right choice all the time, but that sure...it is a hard decision and sometimes it needs to be done.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

decides2dream wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

i wonder if the members of peta feed their pets........ dog food and cat food???

isnt dog food and cat food ground up COWS and CHICKENS????

or are the pets also vegetarian????

just a thought....

you can actually buy vegetarian dog and cat food right in petco and i am sure other stores. also, many people make their own food, feed a raw foods diet, etc. so i would imagine that peta members do not in fact feed their pets commercial food made from animal parts. of course, only hypothesis.



that said, i am on the fence with peta. back in my younger years i was a pretty fierce supporter and member of the organization, even went to a few support meetings locally. i was a vegetarian, didn't wear leather, etc. i have mellowed with age, and sure....changed my stance a good deal, and i do eat meat and wear leather again, tho anti-fur and anti-cruelty. they are a little "extreme" for me nowadays but i do believe peta has done a LOT of good for the welfare of animals, and they still do, a viable organization. i did not read the article in the OP, but i will say that sometimes euthanization is the kindest choice. it's a tough decision, and i am not saying they make the right choice all the time, but that sure...it is a hard decision and sometimes it needs to be done.

hmmmm..

i on the other hand....

would be willing to bet that 95% of the members of PETA feed their pets canned dog food and canned cat food that is made up of ground cows and chickens...........

decides2dream

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

i wonder if the members of peta feed their pets........ dog food and cat food???

isnt dog food and cat food ground up COWS and CHICKENS????

or are the pets also vegetarian????

just a thought....

you can actually buy vegetarian dog and cat food right in petco and i am sure other stores. also, many people make their own food, feed a raw foods diet, etc. so i would imagine that peta members do not in fact feed their pets commercial food made from animal parts. of course, only hypothesis.



that said, i am on the fence with peta. back in my younger years i was a pretty fierce supporter and member of the organization, even went to a few support meetings locally. i was a vegetarian, didn't wear leather, etc. i have mellowed with age, and sure....changed my stance a good deal, and i do eat meat and wear leather again, tho anti-fur and anti-cruelty. they are a little "extreme" for me nowadays but i do believe peta has done a LOT of good for the welfare of animals, and they still do, a viable organization. i did not read the article in the OP, but i will say that sometimes euthanization is the kindest choice. it's a tough decision, and i am not saying they make the right choice all the time, but that sure...it is a hard decision and sometimes it needs to be done.

hmmmm..

i on the other hand....

would be willing to bet that 95% of the members of PETA feed their pets canned dog food and canned cat food that is made up of ground cows and chickens...........

have you met many members of peta? i am not discussing the people who may send a check once in awhile in support....but members who actully participate? they are pretty hard-core, dedicated and impassioned people. i personally do not believe they feed their pets other animals. that said, if you are talking the casual member, sure i'll agree...they probably do. i don't believe everyone who supports peta to some degree are all vegetarians, or shun leather.....but i'd think most try to support cruelty-free products, shun fur, etc. even if one isn't 100% behind the full message, one can still believe the organization does good and offer to support that good. i put my $$$ behind more mainstream animal rights organizations nowadays....but as i said, i absolutely believe peta is a viable organization that still does good for animal rights.


anyhoo, nowadays it is soooo much easier for humans, and pets, to follow a vegetarian lifestyle. as i said, petco carries veggie dog and cat food! and sure, i know way back when, peta gave recipes and such for feeding your pets non-animal food, etc.

bigeye21

I support PETA (People for the Eating of Tasty Animals).

Actually, my wife and I are big animal-lovers and donated some money to PETA years ago without know entirely what they were about. While I agree with many of their stances and believe they are well-intentioned, I think they are run by a bunch of militaristic absolutists. Further, I find many of their tactics sophomoric at best and criminal at worst. In the end, I think they do more to hurt their cause with all the negative attention they generate.

tybird

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

FUCK PETA.

Amen, Fuck 'em

Smellyman

PETA does much more GOOD than HARM.

They have saved so much senseless torture of animals, but lets focus on red paint on a fur coat instead.

BrinkofForever

Hinn

cropduster82 wrote:

Commy wrote:

yeah we should be able to torture animals if we want. goddamn PETA.

Right, and they should be able to throw paint on someone who wears fur. Just cause you don't agree with it, doesn't make it right. I don't agree with torturing animals. In fact, I think it's horrific and those who do it should be punished severely. Point is, animal torture still happens even though PETA exists. It will happen if they don't. It's sad but true. I don't like PETA because of the holier than thou attitude of the organization. I mean they protested the Westminster Dog Show dressed as the KKK! Yes, goddamn PETA. Because you breed a show dog, it's animal cruelty. And don't eat meat, or chicken. Where will it end? It's obvious they can't care for all the animals they claim they save and the above article speaks for itself. It's hypocritical.


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleash ... ts/page/2/

Name one single advocacy group that got anything done without a holier than thou attitude. The whole idea of advocacy is to say the status quo is wrong.

John Briggs 2008

If proper animal control and animal safety enforcement agencies had half the money available to them that PETA does animals would be better off. :roll:

ajedigecko

John Briggs 2008 wrote:

If proper animal control and animal safety enforcement agencies had half the money available to them that PETA does animals would be better off. :roll:

well said.

melodious

My question would be is Has awareness of PETA changed your lives? What's different?

tybird

Smellyman wrote:

PETA does much more GOOD than HARM.

They have saved so much senseless torture of animals, but lets focus on red paint on a fur coat instead.

But dumb-ass stunts like releasing minks from a mink farm into the English countryside was worse than torture for both the native fauna and the minks....just a bunch of stupid, misguided people who have no clue how the natural world really works. :evil:

sleeplikeadog

John Briggs 2008 wrote:

If proper animal control and animal safety enforcement agencies had half the money available to them that PETA does animals would be better off. :roll:

I agree 100%. It seems to me that PETA spends all of their money on advertising, and trying to convert people to veganism, than they do saving animals. I currently work at an animal shelter, and I can tell you right now that a 95% euthanasia rate is ridiculous, and if our shelter had a 95% euthanasia rate we'd all be fired. Our shelter doesn't have money for a vet on staff, xray machine, and many otherthings that are vital to a shelter, but we make do with what we have. I can guarantee you right now that if we hadthe budget that PETA has we'd probably have a 0% euthanasia rate.

I'm also highly offended by the person in the article who talks about the people in the shelter who don't care about euthanizing animals and stepping on them like it's nothing. It's funny that this thread is on here today because I had a really fucked up day because I had to euthanize a cat(at the end of the day to top it off) who about 5 days ago was a healthy cat. I felt really bad about doing it, and when I went to euthanize him he gave me a pitiful meow, and it broke my fucking heart. When I got home and told the story to someone else I couldn't help but cry. If our shelter had PETA's budget we could have saved that cat, but instead I come home feeling like a horrible person thinking that there may have been something else I could do(even though in reality, I could do nothing because our budget doesn't allow it). So fuck PETA for making me feel like a shitty person, and shame on them for spending their money foolishly. They should be ashamed.

bigeye21

Really, PETA? :roll:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/04/10/peta.pet.shop.boys/index.html

PETA to Pet Shop Boys: Rescue Shelter Boys, perhaps?

LONDON, England (CNN) -- Just because they named their new CD "Yes," does not mean that British electro-pop duo, the Pet Shop Boys, will agree to just about anything.
PETA has asked the Pet Shop Boys to change the band's name to Rescue Shelter Boys.

PETA has asked the Pet Shop Boys to change the band's name to Rescue Shelter Boys.

The band has turned down a request from an animal rights group to rename itself the Rescue Shelter Boys.

The organization, the People for the Ethical Treatment for Animals (PETA), sent a letter to Neil Tennant and Chris Lowe acknowledging that its request, at first blush, might appear "bizarre."

But, by changing its name, the band could raise awareness at every tour stop of the "cramped, filthy conditions" that breeders keep animals in before selling them to pet stores, PETA said in its letter.

The duo, which has performed under its current name for more than 20 years, reproduced PETA's written request in full on its Web site.

The musicians said they were "unable to agree" to the request "but nonetheless think (it) raises an issue worth thinking about."

The animal rights group said it was pleased the Pet Shop Boys had drawn attention to the issue by posting its letter so prominently on the band's site. Talking about its campaign on a blog entry, a PETA staffer wrote:

"I think I may have to stick "West End Girls" on my iPod right now to celebrate."

"West End Girls" is one of the many hits the group has had in its long career.

PETA is no stranger to oddball campaigns. A recent one was aimed to re-christen fish as "sea kittens" because "who could possibly want to put a hook through a sea kitten?"

HermanBloom

Now if we could stop them and the ACLU we would be so well off