***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

Jearlpam0925

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Yeah, but the whole shit about that DA disappearing and his car ending up in the Susquehanna, lap top destroyed, and said hard drive "missing", makes a lot of sense now. I mean, isn't it weird how that's NOT a bigger story this entire time?

Yeah, you have been on that angle for a while. I don't know. That would get a lot of press and make a lot of money for a lot of news outlets. If there was any hint of a connection to Sandusky, I am sure they would be all over it. That dude was also apparantely working on some pretty high profile drug cases at the time with some pretty serious people. Never know though, especially with the mob angle in this.

Haha, well that's what I'm saying. Why isn't it a bigger story - even if it's not directly related to Sandusky? I mean a DA dude goes missing, with no explanation, car in the river, etc, etc, and that isn't interesting enough for an investigation?

Cliffy6745

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Yeah, but the whole shit about that DA disappearing and his car ending up in the Susquehanna, lap top destroyed, and said hard drive "missing", makes a lot of sense now. I mean, isn't it weird how that's NOT a bigger story this entire time?

Yeah, you have been on that angle for a while. I don't know. That would get a lot of press and make a lot of money for a lot of news outlets. If there was any hint of a connection to Sandusky, I am sure they would be all over it. That dude was also apparantely working on some pretty high profile drug cases at the time with some pretty serious people. Never know though, especially with the mob angle in this.

Haha, well that's what I'm saying. Why isn't it a bigger story - even if it's not directly related to Sandusky? I mean a DA dude goes missing, with no explanation, car in the river, etc, etc, and that isn't interesting enough for an investigation?

I am sure it was at the time and a I am sure there was in 2005 or whenenver it was. When was the last time you heard about any non football, non Sandusky related news out of Centre County though? I know next to nothing about it, but I am sure it was investigated at the time and all.

Jearlpam0925

Cliffy6745 wrote:

I am sure it was at the time and a I am sure there was in 2005 or whenenver it was. When was the last time you heard about any non football, non Sandusky related news out of Centre County though? I know next to nothing about it, but I am sure it was investigated at the time and all.

Damnit, Cliff, why are you letting complete sensible rationale get in the way of a good conspiracy theory?!

Cliffy6745

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

I am sure it was at the time and a I am sure there was in 2005 or whenenver it was. When was the last time you heard about any non football, non Sandusky related news out of Centre County though? I know next to nothing about it, but I am sure it was investigated at the time and all.

Damnit, Cliff, why are you letting complete sensible rationale get in the way of a good conspiracy theory?!

It would make this quite the story.

Jearlpam0925

This dude even has his own wiki page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Gricar

The Fixer

funny

Howard has always been a high-strikeout hitter, but 36 percent is astronomical even for him and even in the small sample size. To put this in perspective, Howard has taken the third-fewest swings (236) of the 21 National League first basemen who have logged at least 100 PA. Yet, he has the tenth-most swings and misses (82). In terms of percentages, Howard has swung at the second-fewest pitches in the strike zone (41 percent) and the third-most outside the strike zone (35 percent).

jamminpearls

The Fixer wrote:

funny

Howard has always been a high-strikeout hitter, but 36 percent is astronomical even for him and even in the small sample size. To put this in perspective, Howard has taken the third-fewest swings (236) of the 21 National League first basemen who have logged at least 100 PA. Yet, he has the tenth-most swings and misses (82). In terms of percentages, Howard has swung at the second-fewest pitches in the strike zone (41 percent) and the third-most outside the strike zone (35 percent).

And yet the teams 17-14 in his 31 games and 36-51 without him.

Cliffy6745

jamminpearls wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

funny

Howard has always been a high-strikeout hitter, but 36 percent is astronomical even for him and even in the small sample size. To put this in perspective, Howard has taken the third-fewest swings (236) of the 21 National League first basemen who have logged at least 100 PA. Yet, he has the tenth-most swings and misses (82). In terms of percentages, Howard has swung at the second-fewest pitches in the strike zone (41 percent) and the third-most outside the strike zone (35 percent).

And yet the teams 17-14 in his 31 games and 36-51 without him.

:crazy:

jamminpearls

Cliffy6745 wrote:

jamminpearls wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

funny

Howard has always been a high-strikeout hitter, but 36 percent is astronomical even for him and even in the small sample size. To put this in perspective, Howard has taken the third-fewest swings (236) of the 21 National League first basemen who have logged at least 100 PA. Yet, he has the tenth-most swings and misses (82). In terms of percentages, Howard has swung at the second-fewest pitches in the strike zone (41 percent) and the third-most outside the strike zone (35 percent).

And yet the teams 17-14 in his 31 games and 36-51 without him.

:crazy:

Yeah, crazy that winning is important. He's far from great but he produces.

Cliffy6745

jamminpearls wrote:

Yeah, crazy that winning is important. He's far from great but he produces.

.213/.298/.435

The Fixer

Cliffy6745 wrote:

jamminpearls wrote:

Yeah, crazy that winning is important. He's far from great but he produces.

.213/.298/.435

come on cliff...all of their wins are because of him and none of the losses are his fault

phils have played some great teams since he came back too

the pro-howard crowd is like a guy on death row who maintains his innocence in the face of damning evidence. They are delusional

Ledbetterman10

The Fixer wrote:

the pro-howard crowd is like a guy on death row who maintains his innocence in the face of damning evidence. They are delusional

True but to extend your analogy, you guys that complain about him all day every day are like prisoners who have been sentenced to 6 years in prison, but scream at the guards to let you out during year 2. We're stuck with Howard and his contract. Just hope he improves over this offseason. I mean, we're Phillies fans! Have we lost our ability to hopelessly hope for things that probably won't happen? Have 2 pennants and a world title spoiled us that badly?

The Fixer

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

the pro-howard crowd is like a guy on death row who maintains his innocence in the face of damning evidence. They are delusional

True but to extend your analogy, you guys that complain about him all day every day are like prisoners who have been sentenced to 6 years in prison, but scream at the guards to let you out during year 2. We're stuck with Howard and his contract. Just hope he improves over this offseason. I mean, we're Phillies fans! Have we lost our ability to hopelessly hope for things that probably won't happen? Have 2 pennants and a world title spoiled us that badly?

well, I didn't want him signed to an extension in the first place (especially 2 years prematurely)...so I was complaning about him before he signed his absurd contract. He's not going to improve next year. why? because he's nowhere near the player that everyone wants to remember circa 2008. That player doesn't work here anymore. We are stuck with the fat pear shaped body, his trash can esque range, and his patented one-armed helicopter flailing swing for the duration of his albatross of a contract. should be fun.

hopelessly hoping is pretty awesome though. that's what we are all going to spend the offseason doing while we wait for amaro to fix this mess of a roster. ugh

Ledbetterman10

The Fixer wrote:

well, I didn't want him signed to an extension in the first place (especially 2 years prematurely)...so I was complaning about him before he signed his absurd contract.

We know. You post it all time. And when I say "hope he gets better', I'm never expecting him to be the Ryan Howard who was offered that contract. But he has to be better than this. From here on out,it's not even about him living up to the contract and it's a waste of time to bother comparing him to Fielder, Votto, or anybody else you'd rather have. I'm not delusional enough to think he can regain his 2006-2009 form. At this point, I'd just like to see him return to his 2010-2011 form...which is possible...to hopelessly hope for.

Johnny Abruzzo

I have to say that giving credit to Howard for the Phils 17-14 record (whooptie damn doo) is ridiculous. He's been borderline terrible. I would think he'll be better than this next year (right?).


In more important news:
Di Nic's roast pork named best pork sandwich in the nation. Yummy.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/the-insider/DiNics-roast-pork-named.html#photoNumber=0

Cliffy6745

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

I have to say that giving credit to Howard for the Phils 17-14 record (whooptie damn doo) is ridiculous. He's been borderline terrible. I would think he'll be better than this next year (right?).


In more important news:
Di Nic's roast pork named best pork sandwich in the nation. Yummy.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/the-insider/DiNics-roast-pork-named.html#photoNumber=0

DUDE, I saw this last night and have been meaning to post it. Pretty awesome. John's was up there too. God damn I want one of these.....right around the corner....trying to watch my figure though, hahaha.

Jearlpam0925

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

I have to say that giving credit to Howard for the Phils 17-14 record (whooptie damn doo) is ridiculous. He's been borderline terrible. I would think he'll be better than this next year (right?).


In more important news:
Di Nic's roast pork named best pork sandwich in the nation. Yummy.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/the-insider/DiNics-roast-pork-named.html#photoNumber=0

DUDE, I saw this last night and have been meaning to post it. Pretty awesome. John's was up there too. God damn I want one of these.....right around the corner....trying to watch my figure though, hahaha.

Motherfu...now I want one.

Cliffy6745

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

I have to say that giving credit to Howard for the Phils 17-14 record (whooptie damn doo) is ridiculous. He's been borderline terrible. I would think he'll be better than this next year (right?).


In more important news:
Di Nic's roast pork named best pork sandwich in the nation. Yummy.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/the-insider/DiNics-roast-pork-named.html#photoNumber=0

DUDE, I saw this last night and have been meaning to post it. Pretty awesome. John's was up there too. God damn I want one of these.....right around the corner....trying to watch my figure though, hahaha.

Motherfu...now I want one.

My mouth is watering. ha, I am a fat ass.

Jearlpam0925

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

DUDE, I saw this last night and have been meaning to post it. Pretty awesome. John's was up there too. God damn I want one of these.....right around the corner....trying to watch my figure though, hahaha.

Motherfu...now I want one.

My mouth is watering. ha, I am a fat ass.

Haha, gotta slim up for that wedding dress of your's? Food's never been my problem; it's the massive amounts of alcohol I consume.

Jearlpam0925

Ahhh, who am I kidding, I should be ashamed about the way I eat.......buuuut I'm not.