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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    Hamels said that the weaver contract isn't enough so halladay sure isn't
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    anyway, does anyone have any confidence in amaro to sign hamels to a reasonable deal at this point? I wouldn't be shocked if hamels gets a larger contract than votto

    I think it'll be something like Halladay's contract.

    Yeah, this ain't gonna happen. More like the Lee contract.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    so anyone heading out to East Virginia for the games this weekend?
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    The Fixer wrote:
    so anyone heading out to East Virginia for the games this weekend?

    It's more like NW Virginia. No, not gonna make it.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    so anyone heading out to East Virginia for the games this weekend?

    It's more like NW Virginia. No, not gonna make it.

    It's actually Eastern West Virginia, but that's too many words. I'm sticking with East Virginia.


    More hamels stuff...

    Matt Cain signed a contract extension with the San Francisco Giants yesterday, spanning five years and totaling $112.5 million guaranteed. The right-hander is 27 years old and has crafted an impressive resume as one of the most effective and most underrated pitchers in baseball. Last year, Cain tossed 221 and two-thirds innings with a K/BB approaching three-to-one (20 percent/7 percent) and a 2.88 ERA.

    Phillies fans should care about the Cain extension because it sets a floor for negotiations between the Phillies and Cole Hamels. Hamels will be eligible for free agency after the season, but both sides have expressed interest in continuing their partnership. Last year, Hamels tossed 216 innings with a K/BB approaching 4.5-to-one (23 percent/5 percent) and a 2.79 ERA. It was a career year for Hamels, who bounced back from a rough 2009 season by adding a cutter to his arsenal and improving his curveball, turning him into a four-pitch National League nightmare.

    Should Hamels reach free agency, he is expected to draw plenty of interest from baseball’s richest teams. He is one of the three best lefties in the league, along with teammate Cliff Lee and Clayton Kershaw of the Los Angeles Dodgers. The Yankees, with an endless supply of American currency, and the newly-purchased Dodgers are expected to be among the most pursuant. Because Cain and Hamels are so similar in nearly every way aside from their pitching hands, the recent extension with the Giants means that the Phillies cannot reasonably offer Hamels anything excessively lower than five years at $112.5 million. The Phillies were hoping to begin the bidding at a lower level…

    One person with knowledge of the situation says the Phils know how much Hamels will cost – $20 million or more per season – and are set to pay it. The person said the length of the deal is an issue, that the Phillies would like to do a four-year deal and Hamels wants more.

    … but now must start somewhere in the neighborhood of Cain’s contract. A signing was never likely to happen on Opening Day, as Jayson Stark explains:

    Hamels said his understanding is the Phillies don’t want to sign him before Opening Day because then “they’d have to deal with the luxury tax.” However, one source says that baseball has changed its luxury-tax rules in the last year, so there would be no luxury-tax implications on the team for 2012 regardless, as long as Hamels’ salary for this year remained unchanged.

    Once the regular season is underway, it is in the Phillies’ best interest to get Hamels locked up sooner rather than later. They played with fire with Jimmy Rollins last year and it very nearly cost them a productive shortstop, which would have been one more problem in an infield full of them. If Rollins hadn’t overestimated his own value and underestimated the aversion from other teams to his age and injury history, he very well could have been starting the 2012 season in another uniform. The Phillies won’t be so lucky if they go the same route with Hamels. Unlike Rollins, Hamels has youth and a clean bill of health on his side, along with all of the stuff he does on the mound.

    The Phillies can oppose market value now, or oppose market value and a handful of very wealthy teams in the off-season. Hamels’ price, now with a defined floor, will not be this low in November. For a Phillies team that will only get older and more injury-prone going forward, keeping Hamels around will provide them more certainty. If the Phillies are competitive in 2013 and beyond, Hamels will be the single biggest reason why.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    fuck it. the guy was the world series mvp. i say give him a lifetime contract. :thumbup: :lol:


    in all seriousness...including rollins/utley etc etc...hamels is the one guy i can't envision playing anywhere else. would make me sick to my stomache to see.

    get it done god damn it.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    The Juggler wrote:
    fuck it. the guy was the world series mvp. i say give him a lifetime contract. :thumbup: :lol:

    in all seriousness...including rollins/utley etc etc...hamels is the one guy i can't envision playing anywhere else. would make me sick to my stomache to see.

    get it done god damn it.

    I just don't see what the fucking problem is with getting this deal done. You have a home grown, potential hall of fame pitcher who has won a championship for you and is just entering his prime. WTF :?
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    So I have a stupid question. Did we name a 5th starter?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    So I have a stupid question. Did we name a 5th starter?

    it's blanton. isn't it?
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Juggler wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    So I have a stupid question. Did we name a 5th starter?

    it's blanton. isn't it?

    yeah. kendrick will be in the pen.

    glad that savery made the team. probably the best move of the offseason :roll:
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    Lots of question marks with this team, but still a fucking amazing rotation.

    I'm ready to get past Temple Owl depression and watch some baseball!
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Lots of question marks with this team, but still a fucking amazing rotation.

    I'm ready to get past Temple Owl depression and watch some baseball!
    Can't wait for tomorrow!!! It's gonna be painful to watch some of these early season games i think.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Lots of question marks with this team, but still a fucking amazing rotation.

    I'm ready to get past Temple Owl depression and watch some baseball!
    Can't wait for tomorrow!!! It's gonna be painful to watch some of these early season games i think.

    Galvis seems like a triples machine, so that's something.
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    A Chickies and Pete's in PNC Park?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    o/u dropped one game to 92.5. thought it would dip a little more with the utley/howard injury situations.

    despite all problems with the lineup right now, only the tigers and yanks have a higher total.

    i'm kinda leaning under though. gonna say 91 and that the division comes down to the last couple games with the marlins and bravos.

    think both ( :x ) wildcards come out of the east.
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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,165
    The Juggler wrote:
    o/u dropped one game to 92.5. thought it would dip a little more with the utley/howard injury situations.

    despite all problems with the lineup right now, only the tigers and yanks have a higher total.

    i'm kinda leaning under though. gonna say 91 and that the division comes down to the last couple games with the marlins and bravos.

    think both ( :x ) wildcards come out of the east.

    i agree, probably low 90's in wins and both Miami and atlanta make the playoffs. Can't wait til tomorrow though :D
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    :D ...opening day and all is right with the world.

    prediction for today:

    freddy galvis: 4 for 4 with 4 grand slams. BOOM. :lol:


    go phils!
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    The Juggler wrote:
    :D ...opening day and all is right with the world.

    prediction for today:

    freddy galvis: 4 for 4 with 4 grand slams. BOOM. :lol:


    go phils!

    3 for 3 with 3 triples, a walk, SB, 3 RBI. ;)

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    :D ...opening day and all is right with the world.

    prediction for today:

    freddy galvis: 4 for 4 with 4 grand slams. BOOM. :lol:


    go phils!

    3 for 3 with 3 triples, a walk, SB, 3 RBI. ;)

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  • Empty Glass
    Empty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    Happy New Year, Phillies fans :D
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