***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

The Fixer

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Laynce Nix sucks. The phillies moves this offseason are a bit confusing.

Welcome to the Amaro Era!!!

Pretty bad when the team you support has made 5 offseason moves and the one you like best is them giving brian sanches a minor league deal.

Fuckin amaro

The Fixer

Cliffy6745 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

love all the action at the winter meetings...

Phillies Are Strong Players For Aramis Ramirez
By Tim Dierkes [December 5 at 9:32am CST]

The Phillies are strong players for free agent third baseman Aramis Ramirez, tweets Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post. A week ago, Ramirez's agent Paul Kinzer named the Angels as one of four or five teams with serious interest in his client, and an offer from the Halos seems likely after Ramirez visited the club. The Brewers are also in the mix. Kinzer said in November that Ramirez seeks a four-year deal or three-year contract with an option.

The Phillies have third baseman Placido Polanco under contract for 2012, though the 36-year-old had double hernia surgery in October.

Would be another 3-4 year contract to a player who will be 34 next season. Phillies gotta get younger, I wouldn't like it.

he's had major shoulder issues too. I'm sure they will give him 5 years

I think you guys get my drift. I have zero confidence in amaro. I want gillick back

The Fixer

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Nix: 2 yrs, $2.5M

Bench bat, no real risk. The Phillies really like getting shit done early though. One less suitor for the Yanks to compete with for Andruw Jones.

he's amaro's type of guy. can't get on base and strikes out a ton. this formula has worked wonders for them in the playoffs.

when he said after the choke job to STL that the offense needed to 'change it's entire approach', he obviously wanted to bring in wigginton, nix, and thome to help accomplish that.

unbelievable

Cliffy6745

The Fixer wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Nix: 2 yrs, $2.5M

Bench bat, no real risk. The Phillies really like getting shit done early though. One less suitor for the Yanks to compete with for Andruw Jones.

he's amaro's type of guy. can't get on base and strikes out a ton. this formula has worked wonders for them in the playoffs.

when he said after the choke job to STL that the offense needed to 'change it's entire approach', he obviously wanted to bring in wigginton, nix, and thome to help accomplish that.

unbelievable

I read an article yesterday saying just that. That they needed to do better with 2 strikes, then brings in 3 guys who are terrible with 2 strikes.

The Fixer

The Juggler wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Would you guys prefer Ramirez/whoever at shortstop or Rollins/Polanco? Looking at WAR, it would tell you to go with a combination of Rollins/Polanco over Ramirez/replacement level? Fangraphs hates Ramirez's defense. Ramirez is obviously a much better bet over the next 4 years offensively than Rollins. Interesting situation.

Edit: WAR heavily favors Rollins/Polanco to Ramirez/Valdez. Ramirez is clearly the best hitter in the bunch though.

i'm kinda leaning towards ramirez/replacement (hopefully not wilson valdez) just to kick start the offense. polanco misses way too much time. i still they'll come to terms with jimmy though.


looks like gillick would like for the phils to go after george sherrill. hopefully ruben listens to him there.

why do you want sherrill??

Rollins/polanco vs ramirez/valdez. I think it comes down to what rollins/aramis contract demands are. I think those options are pretty similar. I'd lean to rollins since he is less injury prone and he plays a more premium position, but if his contract demands are 5 years and they can get aramis for 3, then it's a no brainer.

This could be hilarious when it's all said and done. The 2015 phillies could be in line for 40 wins with the signings of all of these older guys (and lack of prospects in the minors). at least howard will still be under contract though :roll:

Johnny Abruzzo

The Fixer wrote:

at least howard will still be under contract though :roll:

We could've signed Pujols through his age 47 year.

Jearlpam0925

This is Jimmy Rollins's agent.

It's vulgar. Well, vulgar if you're a chick.

The statement above is also instigating a hopefully slam-dunk follow-up comment...

http://mobilwi.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a6d ... 88b970c-pi

The Fixer

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Of course I'll take the team with superior pitching anyday, but I'm just saying who knows what the hell will happen in a 5 game series.

No doubt. Cashman has said this 400 times this offseason. It's all about getting to the playoffs then it's a crapshoot.

this is a great formula if you have a manger that actually uses the SPs that give his team an advantage. ie, not roy oswalt

Cliffy6745

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

This is Jimmy Rollins's agent.

It's vulgar. Well, vulgar if you're a chick.

The statement above is also instigating a hopefully slam-dunk follow-up comment...

http://mobilwi.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a6d ... 88b970c-pi

This the Deadspin article? They published some dirt on him, jesus.

The Fixer

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

at least howard will still be under contract though :roll:

We could've signed Pujols through his age 47 year.

a 47 year old pujols will still be better than the current version of ryan howard

Jearlpam0925

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

This is Jimmy Rollins's agent.

It's vulgar. Well, vulgar if you're a chick.

The statement above is also instigating a hopefully slam-dunk follow-up comment...

http://mobilwi.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a6d ... 88b970c-pi

This the Deadspin article? They published some dirt on him, jesus.

This is the article - http://deadspin.com/5861982/dan-lozano- ... e-mountain

But I was hoping someone would say, "that's not vulgar, that's vulva!"

Cliffy6745

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

This is Jimmy Rollins's agent.

It's vulgar. Well, vulgar if you're a chick.

The statement above is also instigating a hopefully slam-dunk follow-up comment...

http://mobilwi.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a6d ... 88b970c-pi

This the Deadspin article? They published some dirt on him, jesus.

This is the article - http://deadspin.com/5861982/dan-lozano- ... e-mountain

But I was hoping someone would say, "that's not vulgar, that's vulva!"

Yeah, I read the article, didn't want to click on it with some of the pictures since I'm at work.

HA

Johnny Abruzzo

The Fixer wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

at least howard will still be under contract though :roll:

We could've signed Pujols through his age 47 year.

a 47 year old pujols will still be better than the current version of ryan howard

Probably, especially with the ruptured achilles tendon.

Cliffy6745

I don't have a god damn clue where to post this but a couple people here might enjoy this. I am only part way though but this is great.

http://deadspin.com/5863743/the-two+fis ... ast-badass

It's written by a Yankees blogger who I have been reading for years. His site has more or less turned into Yankees, culture, NYC and everything else. It's great and he is a great writer.

http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/

Cliffy6745

Madson declining arbitration.

Cliffy6745

Cliffy6745 wrote:

I don't have a god damn clue where to post this but a couple people here might enjoy this. I am only part way though but this is great.

http://deadspin.com/5863743/the-two+fis ... ast-badass

It's written by a Yankees blogger who I have been reading for years. His site has more or less turned into Yankees, culture, NYC and everything else. It's great and he is a great writer.

http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/

That was a really good read. I always enjoy reading about old school writers.

Cliffy6745

Sounds like the Phillies are getting closer with Rollins. Lozano is a busy dude.

The Juggler

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

This the Deadspin article? They published some dirt on him, jesus.

This is the article - http://deadspin.com/5861982/dan-lozano- ... e-mountain

But I was hoping someone would say, "that's not vulgar, that's vulva!"

delores?

Wobbie

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Yeah, I read the article, didn't want to click on it with some of the pictures since I'm at work.

HA

you have a job???? :shock: :shock:

Cliffy6745

imalive wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Yeah, I read the article, didn't want to click on it with some of the pictures since I'm at work.

HA

you have a job???? :shock: :shock:

I know, right, a pretty good one too. Forunately I have 3 screens.